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Posted: 10 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: SheAish


KK I absolutely agree that Sanam2 is also a trp puller and AdG has been giving fantastic performances specially now with the black magic taken out of the way for quite sometime now.

Even before that once she was allowed to show her negativity even in Q2 all her interactions with everyone has been spot on (except for the OTT parts around the end of Q2), which has actually gotten better with Saif added to the cast and equation with her.

And also once Ahil's character was given some strength just before he left the show and came back, it evens makes Sanam2 appear more entertaining infront of Ahil than when he just used to cry all the time.

BUT, story wise right now, since Ahil was allowed to know how horrible and dangerous Sanam2 is and can relate to what she must have done with Sanam and Seher, it doesn't make Ahil look good with her still hitched to him AND at IM while Sanam is back in what ever form now in Bopal and in contact with him..

Its just that IMO, cvs can't show both side by side without rendering Ahil foolish and irresponsible with Sanam around and while developing Sahil.

They should have him divorce her as there is no reason for the marriage now, and to somehow give the character traction which can still explore interactions with the rest of the cast. And also keep her away from IM too once Sanam comes back to live in IM even though still she believes she is Jannat, (and especially so as amnesia renders Sanam even more vulnerable) to minimize the danger that Sanam2 poses to Sanam given what Ahil believes she did to Sanam and Seher.

STILL right now the biggest issue regarding Ahil's character is lack of reaction to Shaad so Sanam2 is minor compared to that.😆


SA, the biggest thing is Shaad, yet the minor Sanam2 aspect overtook the discussion. The point is last week's ratings, no? Where did Aahil bring her back last week? Last week's dismall showing (compared to what it could've been) is what you said the let down from Wednesday onwards with SaHil meeting. From there the track which was so well done, started floundering.

About Sanam and divorce, no the biggest W*F was when Bhopalis somehow found and and accepted he had left his wife and felt no sympathy. Has he proven anything regarding her to the masses or media? (I may have missed something since I have not yet watched this week's episodes fully.) That is the biggest factor that didn't fit. Because the way she's acting again after she was brought back goes back to the previous situation. Again, Aahil brought her back due to the words of everyone regarding the pregnant woman thrown out on the streets.

But this is only the case of two episodes. It's simply a matter of back where it started. They haven't focused much on Aahil's bringing her back due to his on Mehrabaan either, if I am correct.

Once Aahil was given strength, there was not a need to have her thrown out like that, especially when she's back to that same position. Contrary to what people say, Sanam2 having some cards in the game doesn't mean negativity or vamp fest. Everyone wanted Aahil to completely kick get rid of Sanam2--only for her to be back as if those two episodes where her standing publicly was lost never happened.

If Sanam2 is there due to her holding some cards, while Aahil does who now knows of Sanam2's nature, makes sure she does nothing to harm Sanam--that is actually showing some conflict for the couple and story rather than what everyone deems immediately as negativity and vamp fest just because Sanam2 holds some cards and some power. She would try to plot and separate SaHil the couple in various ways. She may try to manipulate Jannat by feeding her lies--but none of this would be bad for SaHil or the story if they show those as conflicts and even with that there is SaHil shown with focus within the conflict.

As for Jannat being there with Sanam2, as I said, one it depends on how we view why and how Sanam2 is holding on to her position. Number two, it also depends on him being sure to protect Jannat/Sanam from physical and even mental and emotional harm, even if he cannot actively fight against her manipulations to try to put wedges between SaHil and keep them from reuniting. The key during this though--is that within her manipulations there is still focus on the couple, with scenes between the couple. I am not completely explaining this properly, I know. i am too tired. But in short, anyone who's watched any kind of soaps should understand what I'm trying to say. It doesn't mean vamp/vilain's plots and machinations failing right away--but still we see the couple's attraction, emotional exchanges, being in close proximity, conversations, 'romantic situations' etc etc.

All this being said, it really doesn't matter. Because now Aahil's character is taken another hit once again. It's like the makers thought they would acknowledge what we are saying, but just made it into something more nauseating. Aahil is just agonizing over his wife with another man, when he knows she is in a kidnapped state where she has no memory so is essentially violated? W*F... And on top of that, it's all A-Okay. because Shaad is sleeping on the sofa (apparently because Jannat requested for space)

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Posted: 10 years ago
#32
KK actually Sanam2 was being discussed as a side issue and not regarding TRP of that week atleast on my part and I don't think others here were alluding to TRP of that week either.

I was discussing her because somewhere along the discussions I was having with others, it moved on from TRP to her side of the story.

Even I am not sure as to what was all that humiliation and having her on the streets begging for food for, if that issue about her being able to manipulate the public into thinking Ahil doing wrong by her was what made Ahil unable to shake her off his life. prior to all that drama about auctioning the IM and throwing her out on the streets happened.

I was saying that since NOW it has been shown to happen, story wise now Ahil has no reason to stay married to her. And keep her at IM since he has already made her leave his life uncaring of public sentiments which Sanam2 used to play against him.
But Ahil helping her out after finding her begging on the streets is not the issue for me and I feel it was commendable of him and even said so somewhere here. Infact it would have been very unAhil like to not do anything to help her out.

IF the cvs just show her trying to manipulate Jannat instead of causing her harm or trying to kill her again like she has been shown to do till now when ever it comes to Sanam, THEN it would not look so bad on Ahil even if she is still kept at IM.
But I saw from either a spoiler or a segement that she tries to feed something to Jannat and Ahil sees it and makes Jannat stop from eating it.
Actions like THIS which points to trying to once again harm or kill Sanam was what I meant that Ahil knowing what she is capable of and still keeping her there once again after all that Sanam had gone through because of Sanam2, does not go well with regards to Ahil as far as Sanam in her amnesic state is concerned.
AND lets not forget this is the same guy who allowed the love of his life to stay on only as a servant for months when he thought she betrayed him. Here if he brought Sanam2 back out of humanity then it still looks very off that she is back in her full Begam avatar and he is allowing all that without any censor. If we the audiance is expected to belive he still feels trapped because of public sentiments then they need to show it after throwing her out like that.

Also even though Sanam2's entertainment value is high, at the same time we can't forget that she is a vamp and had been shown to do the most horrible things with Sanam so if those same actions are to continue Ahil's character would be questionable to me.
She isn't a new character introduced slowly being shown for the horrible vamp she is. It has already been done in the latter part of Q2 and initial days of Q3 and Ahil is now aware of this. Which is why cvs can't just have her do the same things and keep her at IM and not have this look bad on Ahil anymore, like before he knew the reality of Sanam2 or feeling trapped because of public sentiments.

As for Shaad and Ahil's so called reaction to him shown last night...yeah it has all been chalked down to jealousy and possessiveness after all 🤢😡...just pathetic. Somehow all that you and I and a few others have been saying about this has completely gone totally over everybody's head it seems. So the cvs are catering to those that are happy with Ahil's jealousy and hurt on display and this way Shaad's actions still does not need to be acknowledged.
They must think this as such a win win for them.

Sanam's horrible situation with Shaad has been now officially reduced to two men trying to win over the fair maiden, so Sanam being taken advantage and her rights violated by Shaad burried under all this.


Edited by SheAish - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#33
its clear trp r 4.2 on the hope of sahil meeting and scenes were good enough tahnks to survir chemsitry no doubts now gul is cunning women she have given good scenes with sahil and viewers and trp aunties sahil fans loving it so they r now hooked qh to watch further story ?😆

now what ?


i read your comments guys gul spoils the plot everytime 😕 if fact on hight trp instead on showing good track she has a tendancy to spoil the track with wierd twists

i hope cvc give sense to jannat now its her fight after yesterday she told shayed to sleep seperate and shayer creepy words indicates he may turn physcho lover 😆

jananat trusts her flashbacks more now as they relate more to her and s he analyise taht shayer story ahs huge gaps tehy r false


but today sbb janant is again dancing like a bimbo in front of saad all happy 😕 thats the problem with gul and cvc they made jannat character inconsistent 😆


as for as aaahil shown weak i dont know its cvc dragging they want to buther sahil agan for saad? if aahil confronts shayer its no use as he will utter a lie she is my wife🥱 and janant will take hsi side and insult snubb ahil😕 becoz cvc dont want it to happen otherwise ahil is powerful he can contact pakistam immigration regarding jananat and they find forged documents?

drama bring trp if saad aahil fights😆


sbb today also shows chdail giving dhamki to aaahil and most intersting is sk giving warning to saad 👏 now sk can reveal the truth about fake marriage to jannat by documents only this to seek revenge

now wise thing is sk plays cupid to sahil by revealing to janant that shayer is fake husband and she si from india wow then jannnat can relate herself more to aahil😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
#34
trp trp 🤣
sbb shown not sure aaahil declares saad jananat nikkah 😉🤣

gul ko seedha chalna nahi aata 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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SA, my point is, look at what is still mentioned and what is not.
Shaad-Jannat, they cannot decline to mention amnesia, the lie (non existent marriage), and Aahil knowing this. It can't be done, because for Aahil to be trying to get her back, that is brought up over and over. But as we can see, all it does is worsen the situation when they try to correct it somehow.

Aahil-Sanam2. They do not have to mentionhis mehrabaan or her hold on public and media. They can simply stop referring to it. Even her wanting to find out about Aahil is, why didn't he run away and why is be so happy or optimistic.



Edited by KhatamKahani - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

SA, my point is, look at what is still mentioned and what is not.

Shaad-Jannat, they cannot decline to mention amnesia, the lie (non existent marriage), and Aahil knowing this. It can't be done, because for Aahil to be trying to get her back, that is brought up over and over. But as we can see, all it does is worsen the situation when they try to correct it somehow.

Aahil-Sanam2. They do not have to mentionhis mehrabaan or her hold on public and media. They can simply stop referring to it. Even her wanting to find out about Aahil is, why didn't he run away and why is be so happy or optimistic.


Yeah I think I get what you mean.

With Sanam2 they can still carry on the status quo without stating a new reason for why Ahil brought her back and the plot still works, where else with Shaad/Jannat issue there is no way they can ignore the issue as by default this freak triangle is based on it and revolves around it so has to be brought up all the time as long as Sanam's amnesia and Shaads lie remains..

And they just made it all the more nauseating by having Ahil react to the situation first and foremost in terms of his RIGHTS towards Sanam instead of his RESPONSIBILITY towards Sanam while not acknowledging what Sanam's RIGHTS are and how he is failing them as things are.

After last night I'm just very dissapointed with even KV for going forward with this. He is quite an intelligent actor who would know this BS for what it is. As I have been saying all along, there are some issues that are just too serious and grave to be trifled with like this...I don't think I have ever come across or heard of any show or movie which had gone anywhere near portraying this kind of sick behavior by a character unacknowledged by the narrative. Not even Ekta.

I worry that this might set a precedent for a new way to play out a love story for other producers too.
Edited by SheAish - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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SA^^ fact is the ignorance of Shad's lies and their effect on Sanam as a person is being touted as Aahil's magnanimity or maturity.

In fact just like Shad even Aahil has deprived Sanam of this choice. it has nowhere been mentioned by Aahil's monologues that Shad may whisk her away or harm her . Since coming back there is no mention of the doctor or the treatment. the whole police machinery , public media... etc can back up Aahil when needed. How can he run away with Sanam? Even vacant.
Sanam is aware, she is ill... how does it matter if the psychiatric tells her that he needs to spend time with her to understand her problems better. So she can't meet Shad for a couple of days of her stay at hospital. I am sure she is not as fragile as he makes her out to be.
the fact is that this thing can play out in many different ways with the same effect on storyline and as you say some twists and turns. But they still continue to choose the sickest way possible...
And your fear is not unfounded... this can be a trend setter of sorts...🤢 encouragement of sociopathic behaviour.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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SA and Minnie I agree with your two posts above wholeheartedly.
SA, even I am disappointed with KV. I am just giving it some more time, but this Shaad-Jannat-Aahil thing is nauseating and no matter how they try to "acknowledge" our complaints in their freaked out way, it makes it worse.

Also contrary to some people's belief, Shaad going negative won't make Aahil's character any better. In fact it makes him look even worse. If Shaad were to go negative, Aahil should've been allowed to react accordingly from the start. With Aahil not reacting accordingly, Shaad going negative make Aahil look like a utter ____ pick your choice of words.
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Posted: 10 years ago
#39

I don't think the makers are giving this much thought to the ugliness here.. only a very few of the viewers.

How difficult is it for Aahil to get a doctor visit arranged and the doctor gets her in hospital citing some medical reasons... Why not give Sanam a neutral ground to choose.
Why treat this only as getting back his wife, but not getting back the identity of the woman in question. Unless they focus on the woman, the story will continue on the same vein.
Also how does it matter if Aahil says he is planning to divorce Sanam2 later on ? Why not tell the story of himself. Sanam, Sanam2... slowly?
Instead of a house tour she needs a shrink?
it is really important to have another brain exam done for her and her health be treated with utmost priority. A husband would do this... a real husband I mean.

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