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Posted: 14 years ago
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well this topic really seems to be personifying the phrase "making mountain of a mole hill". I mean guys, firstly it wasnt even a hug. It was just a casual touch on the shoulder that too for a fraction of a second and here we are scrutinizing it in such big details. I mean I am sure nobody would have noticed it if vivian and vahbiz werent known to be a couple in real life, but just becoz they are we have jumped to so many conclusions about a casual fractional casual touch.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think I have said my mind in my earlier post. I found it odd not because Vivbiz relationship. There is nothing to do with Vivbiz. It's about abhay and panchi who aren't close friends. So why it's the point of hugging or half hugging. I think piya needed it more as she was more sad. and I dont think misha would mind. Ok, I am signing off from this topic. Already cleared what I wanted to say and it's about onscreen not offscreen.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sanchitaroy

I think I have said my mind in my earlier post. I found it odd not because Vivbiz relationship. There is nothing to do with Vivbiz. It's about abhay and panchi who aren't close friends. So why it's the point of hugging or half hugging. I think piya needed it more as she was more sad. and I dont think misha would mind. Ok, I am signing off from this topic. Already cleared what I wanted to say and it's about onscreen not offscreen.



there s nothing to feel odd ,it was sweet gesture ,abhay is winner in dance performance so as piya but piya was standing on the other side ,it was not like she needed it the most as she was more upset ,if it not about vivbiz then when panchi hugged tracker why dint ul find odd ,is tracker panchi s sister or piya?.i feel it was general thing ,no one even thought about it if vivbiz were not in relation.if fact quite a few days ,they r showing abhay msha scenes if vivian n priya would be in a relationship then we wud make such posts on them too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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as per the show this was totaly unnoticible thing ,in the begining there were abhay panchi we hardly noticed them.in the last panchi just tried to cheer everyone at that it was like we the mount college students ,whatever she spoke was to everyone not in specific to abhay only .was there any logic in cheering up tracker so sweetly then piya ,why do we want to find logic ?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ZuniZ

I guess some dear ppl here fail to understand the TMs nd the averages reason for dislike of this matter:
it doesnt matter why or how the hug or half hug was, if it was right or wrong etc, thats not the issue. maybe some ppl can be completely fine whatever that goes on. but for those average attached viewers it gets hard to connect when they r constantly reminded of how something is just reel nd how the real is focused instead without beeing of importance for the show. so ofcourse will they be affected, since its attached feelings to a fiction in escape of our daily lifes we r talking abt here, if we were supposed to be totally indifferent to everything,so whats the point of watching a show, we r trying our best to get lost n attached to a story alike Abhay n Piyas nd the least attached viewers need is to put energy to even balance between real n reel, thats not their job, viewers r here to be entartained not to go through a pshycolgy course of reel n reals right n wrong nd deal nd diffrentiation. Its creatives nd actors job to undetstand their attached viewers nd in this special case when the actors private life is so involved with his everyday proffesion atleast if they havnt been able to balance the offscreen at least keep the onscreen as much away from viewers beeing reminded of the offscreen with even the simplest scene like the one mentioned. let be this hug, just having the trio in one frame is sensitive right now, at least for a while, dealing nd undetstanding it is creatives job nd not the viewers whos aim is to build up a strong attachment to connect with what this story is trying to deliver nd whats the success in a creatives work. So having reality distracting it will for sure affect them, specialy when the real has become more off a daily, weekly show for itself. So giving techinal explanations is of no use here. Its rather understanding thats important, specially that i can see the average fans express their dislike within borders of possible maturness which usually cases even less sensitive alike this one doesnt involve. so great spirit by the die hard fans.
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The responsibility should be shared dear. If the viewers are dumb, the creatives cannot be expected to be Einstein. I am sure, if it had been someone else in Vahbbiz's place, people wouldn't have even bothered to engage in this worthless debate. The problem is viewers couldn't properly vent out their frustrations at ViVah relationship - that is why they would look for even tiniest of excuses to play the blame game.

I watched that scene 4 times and none of the times did I find it odd from any angle. If you want to see weirdness in such a minuscule matter, then you'll see it anyway. And what are you trying to suggest - that Vivian and Vahbbiz should never share the same frame, just because some dimwit viewers might not take that kindly? Wouldn't that be unprofessional in the first place?

Getting attached with a character/couple is a one thing. But expecting that an onscreen couple should marry offscreen as well is stupidity, not fandom.

In yesterday's episode, it was Panchi, who gave a casual cheer-up gesture to Abhay and Piya - yes, it was not meant for Abhay exclusively. Piya was standing on the other side of Abhay, by the wall, perhaps that's why she didn't bother to hug her individually. Why can't you see it this way?

Why on earth would Vahbbiz improvise that millisecond hug on her own? What would she gain by sharing screen space with her boyfriend for a fraction of second? Would she dethrone Piya and become the lead actress? Does these theories make sense!

If the viewers are affected by such nonsense issues, it's their own fault and not the creative's or actors'.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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This is getting too much..now we daily get news and interviews about vivbiz and i think d creatives have forgotten whether they r onscreen or offscreen...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pocahontas

It was odd. Infact , she seemed a little cuckoo to me in that scene. Hugging Abhay , hugging Sid over and over and being all gregarious and happy. Its not Pancchi's personality. She looked 'HIGH' to me in that scene. LOL. And Abhay' s reaction to the hug was flat and dry. It made it all the more weird.


Director saahab, apne actor ko character mein rakho. Misha or Tracker hugging Abhay makes sense , not Pancchi.


sugaryanu : You said it better than me 'You dont necessarily have to wrap your arms around someone to qualify it as a hug. That was a one side hug or if you believe it wasn't but she was definitely being 'clingy.' For me it definitely looked like a Quick and excited Hug.

You are right Pocahontas. That gesture was definitely not in the Personality of the Panchi Character and like many others I too felt that she was out of character.

I agree with ZuniZ that it is very essential for the Creatives to build an attachment with the Story and Lead Characters and not get the viewers distracted by anything else. if the reality is distracting the viewers it would definitely affect the Show.

sanchitaroy : You are absolutely right. The Panchi character was never as free with Abhay earlier nor is Abhay friendly towards her. He has always been indifferent towards Panchi, Tracker and Kabir. The only person he has shown some feeling is Misha and she too never hated him from the very beginning. I would say that even though there is a bond between them even Misha hugging him would have looked odd because that is not in her character. But I guess if Tracker or T would have done it then they are perfectly in Character.

And abhayfan_dishu, I agree with your mountain out of a mole hill statement. Yes, This is a very Petty thing. This Serial is full of Bloopers from the very beginning and comparatively this is nothing. But mixing real with reel combined with the numerous Bloopers can affect the Show.

Having said all these, If people here have read my comments on the Bashing Posts of ViVa then you would see that I am someone who always defend for them because I believe that what an Actor or Actress does in his personal life is his/her own Business. The Viewers/Fans have no business interfering in it. My objection is only when I see personal and professional being mixed up. I genuinely felt the gesture as odd and expressed it. And from the responses I can see that I am not alone and only a minority felt that it was okay.

Edited by Anamika1570 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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its not what the scene was supposed to be or what it is. or not even whether it was a casual gesture, or whether it was a hug or not...its all about people do note these things n tht too more than they were supposed to be...its all human psychology...n please...not everyone is alike so no one can force any odr person to believe that theyr wrong in thinking... its all about care should be taken not to put panchi in d same frame as Abhiya...n this time dis touch was certainly without a reason.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think you are right dear 😕...It's really weird when I saw that 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago

Originally posted by: Darklord_Rehan


The responsibility should be shared dear. If the viewers are dumb, the creatives cannot be expected to be Einstein. I am sure, if it had been someone else in Vahbbiz's place, people wouldn't have even bothered to engage in this worthless debate. The problem is viewers couldn't properly vent out their frustrations at ViVah relationship - that is why they would look for even tiniest of excuses to play the blame game.

I watched that scene 4 times and none of the times did I find it odd from any angle. If you want to see weirdness in such a minuscule matter, then you'll see it anyway. And what are you trying to suggest - that Vivian and Vahbbiz should never share the same frame, just because some dimwit viewers might not take that kindly? Wouldn't that be unprofessional in the first place?

Getting attached with a character/couple is a one thing. But expecting that an onscreen couple should marry offscreen as well is stupidity, not fandom.

In yesterday's episode, it was Panchi, who gave a casual cheer-up gesture to Abhay and Piya - yes, it was not meant for Abhay exclusively. Piya was standing on the other side of Abhay, by the wall, perhaps that's why she didn't bother to hug her individually. Why can't you see it this way?

Why on earth would Vahbbiz improvise that millisecond hug on her own? What would she gain by sharing screen space with her boyfriend for a fraction of second? Would she dethrone Piya and become the lead actress? Does these theories make sense!

If the viewers are affected by such nonsense issues, it's their own fault and not the creative's or actors'.

Apparently you didnt see the point in that long essay i wrote at all hun,lol.
I wasnt specifically talking abt last days scene, but overally any scene at the moment.
Ofcourse it is more sensitive and more noticed because of the offscreen relation, what else? thats what i tried to clearly explain. It is a complicated situation since the offscreen is directly involved with the everyday onscreen and when responsible actors decides to not care about this and even take the focus om them overboard making it a daily/weekly show on itsellf, ofcourse will viewers be affected, no matter how indifferent they try to be or they otherwise would have been for a situation alike.
@Responsibilty should be shared'--- We are not doing a school task hun, nor is this about human rights to seek right and wrong and justice and responsibility in it. We are viewers, looking for entartainment away from the daily basis. The offscreen is respectable and should not be of our business , even admired in its place if some fans like to admire it. But directly shadowing the onscreen should stay within limits ,when not related to the onscreen and somehow possible to overshadow it cause of the close interactions it should stay within limits. Number one Priority is the show, is the onscreen story, at least the news coverage should be balanced.
@stupidity@dumb...well using these word in associaton with a fictional show is actually funny. if its stupidity to be this attached, its actually stupidity to waste time on a fictional show averagly to start with, taking this one specifically, its stupidity to even put so much emotions for something that we know is averagly fake both in the 'love' aspect and in story aspect with supernatural powers and vampires dominating the main story, to the athmosphere sorrounding it, to the 'out of no where' reactions and relations making no sense sometimes and so on...
Its bascially weird to even put our time for someting alike when life and world around us have so many mysteries and discoveries still waiting for us. But well, we watch it, we like to get lost in it for whatever reason we have, so logic and fandom doesnt go along, and is not actually meant to go along always, specialy when the logic is overshadowing the fandom with strong insist.
@Yesterday scene, see u are trying to give a techincal explanation to it, but i hope what i explained again made it clear enough why the displeasure rised from fans. i have personaly nothing to say on the unimportant scene, cause thats not even the big picture issue here.
@Fans wanting the onscreen couple together--- i for one have no insist on it in any case for any celebs, if i would want something or look for something it would rather be a nice proffesional friendship , as a relationship could damage the onscreen aswell if they happen to break up in between.As for this specifc case that proffesional cute spirit is there as shown before,but recent months viewers barely gets to see it, but even this wouldnt be much of importance if somethings else wouldnt overshadow it to give doubtful vibes towards the onscreen.
As for the other fans, well, its natural that they would want the delivered love onscreen to be reflected offscreen aswell and would even want more of their offscreen aswell as its somehow directly bonded to the onscreen, specially in this case ,when they portray it so well and that its so intense. Fans connect to the charcater and sees the actor/actress in the skin of that charcater, not vice versa which is the actuall case. so feelings and demands are delivered from the same eyes and hence wanting a lovefiled offscreen is to some level a natural reflex. But if you are talking abt PKYEK specific fans thats not how i have seen it, many knew from before that both in were in respective relationships and it was fine and respected and indifferent untill it got to involved. some might have expressed that they would love the onscreen couple together, but the main oppinions are not even based on that, its poor or non-focus and coverage on the main story and main couple by media thats been critisized in a time when the unrelated offscreen matter is beeing over-focused.
And why and how the actress would do it on her own or if it was purely the character only, is not in my aim to analyse, but the overshadowing comes along here again, and the displeausure is even mentioned by fans whom usually wouldnt care at all and have a neutral view on this so its not just the to attached fans , its the average dear. its good if you try to understand the feelings nd why it would rise a discussion on a simple matter rather then analysing the surface and visible momentary displeasure on only this specific scene, which as u say is not even that important. So if you are logically trying to explain the unimportnace in defence with a bigger and more open view on it, then try to undertstand the ungulity overall displeausre aswell.
As for me, yes the scene wouldnt even be noticed by me, unimportant, in a usuall case. Still a bit out of charcater though, but well out of charcater reactions have been there by other charcetrs on the show aswell, so its just not this case. and i can even say that abt others girls with him. Many might find the Abhay Misha scenes fine, but for me they are ofcourse nice, but i found the recent ones out of character there aswell, i dont see the charcater Abhay in those scenes, its like some Abhay lookalike pops in whit a sudden different characterization.Thats ofcourse my oppinion and i dont intend to discuss on it or make someone else see it that way too, but just mentioned as a example so you would know i have the eye for other characters aswell.
Bottomline:
- unrelated offscreen is offscreen, can be admired, should stay in its own area, within its own borders, specialy when they ask for privacy and respect they should act towards it aswell. And as long as they keep it there, viewers are there to respect and admire and stay indifferent.
-I am not saying they shall not be in one frame even, i am saying creatives should understand this unusall complicated situation and act towards calming it for their fans a while, if they dont have the understaning and cant be einsteins as u say, well you cant expect all fans eaither to be totally insensitive and indifferent abt it as many wanting it or not have been affected, mainly nd sadly because the somewhat sometimes immature act from the person of subjects side, ofcourse you might not have noticed that eaither but well viewes are different hun and some do unfortunatly notice.
Similar much less sensitive cases and less comlpicated situations have brought huge negative views and even weird bashings from fans. So expressing displeasure with the averages mature spirit on this situation is nothing to be dissapointed about even to a extent to somehow blame the onscreen for this,lol. as i have seen as a silent viewer the average have the 'i am happy for them, i respect them' spirit assured alongisde their displeasure and thats really appriciatable.
wow, thats was even longer than my previous comment its a good thing i am more a silent viewer😆 would have bored eveyone with the tooo long comments otherwise.
Edited by ZuniZ - 14 years ago

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