Shabd vedi baan Vidya - Page 2

Originally posted by: akhl

Rama displayed his knowledge of shabd bhedi baan.
[quote=lakshmim_84]5. Ram : its not htere in ramayan that he knew[/quote]

It is written in Baal kand of Valmiki Ramayan that Tataka became invisible using her illusory power. But she was making noise. Then, Ram used his knowledge of shabd bhedi baan and shot at her.

i agree with laxshmi di.

only three ppl knew shabd bedi ban vidya and prc ws one of them

and Rama didnt knew shabd bedi. if u hv seen sagars ramayan them u will no that when meghnad became invisible Rama cldn't shoot him not even when meghnad ws shouting and screaming like hell.

Originally posted by: sampritig

i agree with laxshmi di.

only three ppl knew shabd bedi ban vidya and prc ws one of them

and Rama didnt knew shabd bedi. if u hv seen sagars ramayan them u will no that when meghnad became invisible Rama cldn't shoot him not even when meghnad ws shouting and screaming like hell.

ram did not shoot tadka with shabd bedi baan vidya.. it was not like she became invisible but she was there only.. so with the help of sound ram cld shoot her.
actually tadka used to become invisible n then appear in other place.. after some time ram understood a treand that she was following.. so he knew where she wld come next.. n he shooted the arrow at that place.
n yes.. when megnath was fighting invisibly.. neither ram nor lakshman cld aim at him

Originally posted by: lakshmim_84

ram did not shoot tadka with shabd bedi baan vidya.. it was not like she became invisible but she was there only.. so with the help of sound ram cld shoot her.
actually tadka used to become invisible n then appear in other place.. after some time ram understood a treand that she was following.. so he knew where she wld come next.. n he shooted the arrow at that place.
n yes.. when megnath was fighting invisibly.. neither ram nor lakshman cld aim at him

laks!!! you are very knowledgeble....😳

i can clear some of my doubts with you some time...🤔

Originally posted by: lakshmim_84

ram did not shoot tadka with shabd bedi baan vidya.. it was not like she became invisible but she was there only.. so with the help of sound ram cld shoot her.
actually tadka used to become invisible n then appear in other place.. after some time ram understood a treand that she was following.. so he knew where she wld come next.. n he shooted the arrow at that place.

I am not sure if what you have written is based on Sagar's Ramayan or some other source because I did not watch all episodes of Sagar's Ramayan. But my information is based on the book Valmiki Ramayan. In 26th sarg of Baal Kand of Valmiki Ramayan, it is clearly written that Ram knew shabd bhedi baan and using this knowledge, he shot arrows at Tatka.
The shloka 1.26.23 uses the words "shabda vedhitvam", which means that Rama took aim based on sound.
In shlokas 1.26.19 to 1.26.26, it is written that Tatka knew how to change forms. She assumed various forms and after that she vanished using her illusory powers. While being hidden, she moved here and there and threw stones at Ram and Laxman from different directions. Ram was hesitating in killing her because she was a female. But sage Vishwamitra told Ram that she was a sinner and it was a must to kill her soon. Then Ram displayed his knowledge of "shabda vedhitvam" and shot arrows at her to stop her. At this point, Ram did not kill her. Then Tatka made huge noise and ran towards Ram and Laxman. It is important to note that Valmiki Ramayan nowhere says that she now became visible. It only says that she made huge noise and speedily ran towards Ram and Laxman. Still, Ram shot an arrow at her chest and she died.

Originally posted by: lakshmim_84

ram did not shoot tadka with shabd bedi baan vidya.. it was not like she became invisible but she was there only.. so with the help of sound ram cld shoot her.
actually tadka used to become invisible n then appear in other place.. after some time ram understood a treand that she was following.. so he knew where she wld come next.. n he shooted the arrow at that place.
n yes.. when megnath was fighting invisibly.. neither ram nor lakshman cld aim at him

You know sooo much lakshmi...😛 Thanks for sharing 😊

Thx a lot all for sharing info's 😆 😳

ithi ukthaH satu tam yakshim ashma vrishtyaa bhivarSaNiim |darshayan shabda vedhitvam tam rurodha sa sayaki ||
sa ruddhaa bana jalena maya bala samanvitaa |
abhi dudraava kakutstam laxamanam cha vineshudi ||
taam apatantim vegena vikrantam ashaniim iva |
sharena urasi vivyadha sa papata mamara ca ||

This is the 23,24,25 shloka of 26th sarga of the Bala kanda according to the valmiki ramayan book that i have.
now 23 shloka:
actually the previous shloka vishwamitra tells rama to kill tadaka bcos she is creating so much problems for the yagna. n she was throwing stones at them. so rama started sending arrows to all the places that the sound was comming.
shloka 24:
when tadka found that rama was blocking all the stones.. she ran at ran n lakshman
shloka 25:
seeing this rama aimed at her chest.. n killed her.

actually this is what i understood from those verses.. i am not that good at sanskrit.. now my doubt is if rama knew shabd bedi baan vidya.. why didn't he kill tadka when she was invisible.. only after she became visible n came running towards then .. that he killed her..
so i feel the verses say.. rama started sending arrows whereever he heard the sound.. n those blocked the stones.. but he cldn't aim her with that sound.

its so confusing 😕 ... actually akhl i have nevr given much importance to these verses till now.. tonight after seeing ur post i opened ramayan again 😆

Originally posted by: lakshmim_84

ithi ukthaH satu tam yakshim ashma vrishtyaa bhivarSaNiim |darshayan shabda vedhitvam tam rurodha sa sayaki ||
sa ruddhaa bana jalena maya bala samanvitaa |
abhi dudraava kakutstam laxamanam cha vineshudi ||
taam apatantim vegena vikrantam ashaniim iva |
sharena urasi vivyadha sa papata mamara ca ||

This is the 23,24,25 shloka of 26th sarga of the Bala kanda according to the valmiki ramayan book that i have.
now 23 shloka:
actually the previous shloka vishwamitra tells rama to kill tadaka bcos she is creating so much problems for the yagna. n she was throwing stones at them. so rama started sending arrows to all the places that the sound was comming.[/quote]
Consider the words "darshayan shabda vedhitvam". It means that Rama displayed his knowledge of "shabd bhedi".

[quote]shloka 24:
when tadka found that rama was blocking all the stones.. she ran at ran n lakshman
shloka 25:
seeing this rama aimed at her chest.. n killed her. actually this is what i understood from those verses.. i am not that good at sanskrit.. now my doubt is if rama knew shabd bedi baan vidya.. why didn't he kill tadka when she was invisible.. only after she became visible n came running towards then .. that he killed her.. [/quote]

On translating shloka 25, we do not find the words "seeing this". Therefore, we should not say that Tatka became visible. Verse 1.26.19 says that Tatka became invisible. The verses after that and till her death nowhere say that she became visible.

[quote]its so confusing 😕 ... actually akhl i have nevr given much importance to these verses till now.. tonight after seeing ur post i opened ramayan again 😆

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It is also important to note that the word "aapatantim" is used to describe Tatka's movement towards Ram and Laxman.
aapatantim = aa + patantim
The word "aa" means coming; Tatka was coming towards Ram and Laxman. And the word "patantim" says that she was falling. In other words she was running and falling. The word "patantim" is interesting here. It is patantim (plural) and not patatim (singular). When it was only Tatka, who was falling, then why is plural used? The answer is that Tatka was falling not once but many times. She was running and falling, running and falling and so on. This unsteady movement of hers must have made it all the more difficult for Ram to shoot at her. Still Ram shot at her chest. This means that Ram was very good in shabd bhedi baan.

thats true... darshayan means displayed and shabda vedhitvam means shabda bedi art... so that means he displayed his knowledge of shabda bedi vidya..
thaks a lot akhl... so that means rama also knew shabd bedi baan vidya.. then why didn't he kill meganath 😕 .

but i won't consider the rest in list to be knowing shabd bedi baan vidya till i get the proof.. like these verses.. 😆 😆