Episode 454 Discussion: 18th December 2013 - Page 4

Originally posted by: zoya_naziya

I think I might be the odd one out here but I quite liked the episode..
I am writing what I am gonna write despite knowing that it might completely blow up on my face n sab kuch back to square one ho jayega.. This episode will turn out like the paabo - Madhu confrontation or the lake side insecurity one..
plz cvs let this not be a one-off episode to be brushed off.. I hope this is the much required change in attitude for RK and RK has learnt sth from those lectures. This loserish behavior at the first instance is not ok!!!!

I for one don't care why, what, who, how of the mess or situation RK-Madhu are in now.. I don't care whether others got called out for their contribution to the mess but I am glad RK was called out for his behavior..
Yes, if we take ria out of the picture, I know RK spiralling down was RKish..
Come what may , RK cannot live this "hosh mein na rahe jeene ka" type life..
Yes Madhu has been the reason for wanting him to fall into an abyss but Madhu has always been the reason for him wanting to rise out of the abyss as well.. It was really terrible to see him spiral downward like no morrow..

Bittujis speech was okish. Waise he doesn't even know the exact problem of his chief but still certain things spoken were relevant.. RK needs to fight his battles.. He needs to take charge of his life, their life n work to set right the mess.. Deal with the problem head on n not cower... Running away from problems is not the solution.. I pray hope cvs this is truly a wake up call for RK n RK has learnt sth from it
Ignoring " main sab theek kar doongi" , Madhu's speech was better coz she dealt with the immediate problem of RK losing control of his life which was the need of the hour.. He needed that wake up call. Though I don't know how long it will last.

Ya the hurt-guilt-sorry cycle was addressed.. Can the cvs spare us the torture of a repeat n put an end to this cycle.. Am pakaoed with all this.

RK ne Waise mauka nahi choda, casually he spoke about the attention n not bad biwi for once gave a no-nonsense answer " film over, association with the industry" over.. Instead of the ambiguous behavior n expressions..

Rji -when will this pendulum stop in one place.. Can we have some stability plz.



ETA: if Madhu has lost her faith in RK, fine let RK work on it.. If he fears losing Madhu, then he also needs to work on his marriage as much as Madhu needs to be allaying his insecurities... Why should Madhu be the only one to make things work here.. relationship,It is their marriage, their relationship hence it has to be a collective effort n it better be!!!

Originally posted by: _charu_

one thing i liked, which bittuji tells rk ke he is not handicap, just stop putting up this loser attitude, its high time..irrespective of the women and people in his life, he seriously needs to learn this..tht doesn't mean tht he becomes his,wife's fav poodle again..but grow up man..be a man..the problems will come and go, or they will exist but , be a,fighter not a baby who starts crying on his fav toy being snatched..

Originally posted by: subashni

don't want to comment on the episode since every character,instances of MB are one day wonders.You never know how they behave and what they talk in next episode.esp.R.K so no point in discussing.@bold.Beautiful.This is what we have been screaming right from Sultan's blackmail track instead of M's mein sab kuch theek jaap. Going by this episode we are never gonna salvaged from it. Madhu is be all and end all in Madhubala. I guess TRP plays a vital role in(temporarily) stopping R.K's downward spiral and changing Ria's status from bosom friend to someone unwanted and I wish it remains so.

@Bloody.passion

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Subashini there is no point in trying to reason out the characters at this stage of the story where they just continue with their same behavior.. It is tiring for me..

Yes, you are right about Madhu's Main sab theek kar doongi jaap.. But this is where she fails with RK.. She cannot do sab kuch theek without RKs support.. Coz RK is self destructive n u saw him going on a spree with his atrocious behavior .. Madhu needed to snap RK out of his state n make him see what he was doing to his life.. that is also the reason why she said that I need your support otherwise we will lose everything we have.. The ball is in your court. Everyone focussed on her " main sab kuch theek " but the rest of the dialogue where she seeked for RKs involvement was conveniently brushed off..
When she said to Radha "main sambhal loongi" , it only meant that it is only she who can control RK, which is very true.. Inspite of all his atrocities, this boy listens to her.. He realizes his misdeeds but he has so much zeher within him that he loses senses of what he is doing. Madhu does not make him feel guilty.. He himself knows it but Madhu called out on his behavior when he crossed a threshold of acceptability.. I didn't find anything wrong in what yesterday Madhu told.. Yes the real issue was not dealt but the immediate problem which was a side effect of the real problem needed to be curbed ASAP..

And Madhu responsible or not responsible, does not justify that behavior( bar n thereafter) of his n him falling into that state..

Just like cardio told, RKs bar behavior n thereafter , gave an upper hand to Madhu just the way , where Madhu confiding her revenge n discussing rm story with sultan gave an upper hand to RK on the marriage day n Madhu had to apologise in private after RK called her out on it..
Ofcourse RK apologised in public n that is a different thing altogether..

@Zoya

zoya, exactly what is the problem now, this is what i'm asking , and madhu ab theek kya karna chahti hai? Rk's career, the bacha problem, the Ria problem , the pabo problem, the family problem, rk's drinking problem, ab rk ka support kaunse mission ke liye chahiye?

@charu..👏.honest story telling.is what I need too.I dont mind madhu mahantaa.but as a viewer I must decide if it is so .I hate constant brain washing.and yes.I dont get what is she talking about...his problem is over the moment she made clear to stay away from films and fame.drinking was always there and not a big deal.their problems are self created and can be solved in a single episode making one indifferent to their predicament..

Charu, Madhu has always been non-committal about her mistakes.. So just let it be.. When u know sth is not going to happen, kya fayda rone ka.. Just let it be.. This is like sir patakna on the deewar.

I didn't say RK wrong makes Madhu right.. Where did I say that..,
I am only saying Madhu wrong doesn't justify RK wrong or give him a pass to do wrong..
I can't take a RK spiralling down like this.. If Madhu's lecture is what it takes for him to snap out , so be it.. I am ready to take it as long as there is positive change in RKs attitude.. Bohut gira diya.. Mujhe RK mein sudhaar chahiye bas. I want him to start using his mind n set things right in their life ab Jisne bhi raita failaya ho.. I have highly been disappointed with RKs behavior since the bar.. Period.. Whatever be the cause.. I am not telling Madhu did right at the bday fiasco.. Bji n Madhu seem to live in a delusional world of their own n trying to justify their actions..

When was RK not flawed? I have liked him n still like him...
But the point is of late, it is tiring-same cycle repeated.. I want this to stop.. Mistake hurt guilt regret apologise.. It is ridiculous..

Madhu kya theek karna chahti hai? :D her marriage is going through a rough patch.. Morning n evening mein hi status badal jaata hai.. Hasi se ansoo, toh pyar se gussa.. Ab I don't want to say RK galat hai, Madhu galat hai..
I believe She wants to stabilise her marriage.. Ab how?? By behaving like a pati vrata patni... She will Khilao him sarson ka saag ,but cvs lipstick ko beech mein le aayenge.. Lol..

Enjoyed the episode until Madhu's drunk act was revealed as an act.
But as regards the fighting to hold onto anything, one may have full faith that until CVs restore RK's sense and the couple's junoon for each other, all their big talk will remain just empty words to be disproven within a day or two.
But more importantly, on the upside, they have finally halted the runaround of Madhu firmly telling RK in privacy that she doesn't want to be heroine, but not sufficiently firmly stating this to anyone else.
This time, Bittuji and RK both got to clearly hear her unwillingness to be further associated with her stardom.
So if Bittuji now persuades her to go and meet Steveji, Jackji or any other ji, RK will have leeway to rightly blame Bittuji rather than Madhu for stoking the mess as he should have the previous time as well.

@zoya, loved ur reply, exactly my feelings ..but I still believe tht rk's actions are somewhat a reaction to madhu's foolish actions , while madhu's foolish actions have no base, rhyme or reason, only stuborness and self righteousness..and she dominates their relationship..so that's why our thinking is also skwed tht madhu's wrongs justify rk but rk's wrong don't justify madhu..but since this is marriage , and both know what they signed up for, so the expectations should be kept low..rk never acknowledges madhu's dumbness, that's the only thing tht irks me, ulta everyone sing praises of her..😆 i feel, they don't want to pull madhu down toh they pull down RK so much ke Madhu starts looking good in front of him