Why is Kumud always blamed?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I am done with exams and I am active on all forums of shows i watch. coming to today's episode, yet again i ddint feel kumud is the only one to be blamed.
Saras didnt even tell danny that Kusum loves him,atleast Kumud was fare and frank with all. Yes saras couldnt spoil lives of 4 people but he did hide the truth from everyone. As a Samudian i am happy that saras-kusum didnt marry but what right does saras have by spoiling danny's life and partly kusum's life(I know she is the most disgusting creature but still), when Kumud asked directly Saras to marry Kusum, why couldnt saras decline directly,atleast he could have told danny the truth, all the reasons saras gave are vaild,but why did he hide the truth? NO answer for it. Kumud's anger is justified today, for whatever reason it may be,saras did keep her away from the truth! There is a difference between lying and hiding the truth, i accept but a person who hides the truth also has to bear the anger!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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I don't find Kumud's anger justified because she's angry for the wrong reasons. She's angry because she thinks Saras ruined her sister's life, which is illogical. Saras never loved Kusum, he shouldn't have been forced to marry her, and even if he had married her he wouldn't have been able to keep her happy.

But I do think being angry on Saras for hiding the truth and not being frank is justified. I myself am very angry at him for hiding the truth, especially from Danny (sorry, I am not able to empathize at all with Kusum and her "pain" at finding out her real dulha). Saras keeps saying he saved Kusum from a loveless marriage like his own mother was in, but doesn't he realize he just put his own younger brother into one. He says Kusum would have killed herself one day like his mother did in a loveless marriage but does Danny not have the same feelings? Or does he think that because Danny is a man he can deal with it and he won't try something destructive when he'll find out the truth? I didn't expect this from Saras! He put Danny into a marriage that's not only loveless but also has his wife obsessing over his own brother! Saras should at least not have hidden the truth from Danny. He should have told him the whole truth and then let him decide if he still wanted to take the plunge with Kusum.

Kumud chose her sibling over her love, and it was unfair to her love.
Saras chose his love over his sibling, and it was unfair to his sibling.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamanna_20

I don't find Kumud's anger justified because she's angry for the wrong reasons. She's angry because she thinks Saras ruined her sister's life, which is illogical. Saras never loved Kusum, he shouldn't have been forced to marry her, and even if he had married her he wouldn't have been able to keep her happy.


But I do think being angry on Saras for hiding the truth and not being frank is justified. I myself am very angry at him for hiding the truth, especially from Danny (sorry, I am not able to empathize at all with Kusum and her "pain" at finding out her real dulha). Saras keeps saying he saved Kusum from a loveless marriage like his own mother was in, but doesn't he realize he just put his own younger brother into one. He says Kusum would have killed herself one day like his mother did in a loveless marriage but does Danny not have the same feelings? Or does he think that because Danny is a man he can deal with it and he won't try something destructive when he'll find out the truth? I didn't expect this from Saras! He put Danny into a marriage that's not only loveless but also has his wife obsessing over his own brother! Saras should at least not have hidden the truth from Danny. He should have told him the whole truth and then let him decide if he still wanted to take the plunge with Kusum.

Kumud chose her sibling over her love, and it was unfair to her love.
Saras chose his love over his sibling, and it was unfair to his sibling.


He did not chose his love over his sibling

Just like Kumud went all out to get her sibling married to the one she wanted

Saras went all out to get his brother married to the one he wanted

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: MADHU.BARUN

I am done with exams and I am active on all forums of shows i watch. coming to today's episode, yet again i ddint feel kumud is the only one to be blamed.

Saras didnt even tell danny that Kusum loves him,atleast Kumud was fare and frank with all. Yes saras couldnt spoil lives of 4 people but he did hide the truth from everyone. As a Samudian i am happy that saras-kusum didnt marry but what right does saras have by spoiling danny's life and partly kusum's life(I know she is the most disgusting creature but still), when Kumud asked directly Saras to marry Kusum, why couldnt saras decline directly,atleast he could have told danny the truth, all the reasons saras gave are vaild,but why did he hide the truth? NO answer for it. Kumud's anger is justified today, for whatever reason it may be,saras did keep her away from the truth! There is a difference between lying and hiding the truth, i accept but a person who hides the truth also has to bear the anger!



Saras only hid the truth because he knew how many lives would be ruined if he didnt. How different is that from Kumud and everyone hiding the truth about Kusum's kidnapping by Pramad's goons? I respect your pov about Kumud's attitude and Saras response but I know for a fact, Saras would not have been able to decline Kumud so easily and he knew at least that if Danny married her then it would stop the questions about Kusum and him being together in the video. Plus, who is going to believe the truth that Kusum is pure after all of the drama surrounding her kidnapping? He did what was best for everyone instead of compromising himself, Danny, Kusum, and Kumud. The expressions on everyone's face, even Pramad is enough to justify what he did. Saras has to hide how he feels about Kumud, his own personal truth, only because she is still married and she refuses to divorce Pramad. Lastly, it isn't Saras' fault that Kusum tried to take her own life as she did this when she was about to marry Mohan. So she was unstable to begin with and noone can deny that. There is no guarantee Saras or anyone could have kept her happy when they aren't in love with her. A LOT of the anger that is being aimed at Saras is justifiably not his fault but Mohan's mother (for breaking up the union and insulting the family), Kumud's (for promising Kusum something she wasn't sure of in the first place), and Kusum (for choosing to become obsessed with someone who didn't know of her existence). Kusum falsely believed that copying her sister's appearance and actions would win her a place in Saras' heart. She echoed Kumud's wardrobe, hairstyle, and even made Saras' favorite aloo curry. But you can't create something that isn't there. The only thing Saras did was destroy the illusion in Kusum's mind of her and him being together, and he was acting not only as a brother but a son of the family.


If it wasn't for Saras and his brother, Kusum could have ended up in the family of a fat fifty-year-old guy. Danny could have easily had any eligible girl in Dubai and he is getting the short end of the stick.


I rest my case. =)
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arshics


He did not chose his love over his sibling

Just like Kumud went all out to get her sibling married to the one she wanted

Saras went all out to get his brother married to the one he wanted


But I don't understand why he didn't tell Danny the whole truth? It would just seem more fair, at least to me, because yes Danny loved her but he had the right to know what he was getting himself into. Maybe he wouldn't have wanted to marry Kusum after knowing her creepy truth. Yes, perhaps Saras didn't really chose his love over his sibling, but I do think he did wrong with Danny.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamanna_20

I don't find Kumud's anger justified because she's angry for the wrong reasons. She's angry because she thinks Saras ruined her sister's life, which is illogical. Saras never loved Kusum, he shouldn't have been forced to marry her, and even if he had married her he wouldn't have been able to keep her happy.


But I do think being angry on Saras for hiding the truth and not being frank is justified. I myself am very angry at him for hiding the truth, especially from Danny (sorry, I am not able to empathize at all with Kusum and her "pain" at finding out her real dulha). Saras keeps saying he saved Kusum from a loveless marriage like his own mother was in, but doesn't he realize he just put his own younger brother into one. He says Kusum would have killed herself one day like his mother did in a loveless marriage but does Danny not have the same feelings? Or does he think that because Danny is a man he can deal with it and he won't try something destructive when he'll find out the truth? I didn't expect this from Saras! He put Danny into a marriage that's not only loveless but also has his wife obsessing over his own brother! Saras should at least not have hidden the truth from Danny. He should have told him the whole truth and then let him decide if he still wanted to take the plunge with Kusum.

Kumud chose her sibling over her love, and it was unfair to her love.
Saras chose his love over his sibling, and it was unfair to his sibling.



I think Saras chose both love and his sibling. Let's not forget he still feels like he is the son of the family, even more than Yash. He never promised himself to Kusum and he only promised Kumud that Kusum would be married to one who would keep her happy. What if she had been married to Mohan instead? Would Kumud have been justified then for Saras not replacing him?


Saras should not have been put in that position to choose like that. Kumud chose to marry Pramad out of duty to her parents. Saras had to choose in the same way. There wasn't a lot of time for Danny and Saras to even make a clear choice because of the shadow cast over Kusum's reputation. Saras saved her from the kidnapping, Danny always tried to cheer her up, they both kept her secret and hid the truth from her parents. They both saved the family in a lot of ways, and all of the anger isn't going to change that.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamanna_20


But I don't understand why he didn't tell Danny the whole truth? It would just seem more fair, at least to me, because yes Danny loved her but he had the right to know what he was getting himself into. Maybe he wouldn't have wanted to marry Kusum after knowing her creepy truth. Yes, perhaps Saras didn't really chose his love over his sibling, but I do think he did wrong with Danny.



I agree with you that he wasn't open with Danny and maybe he should have been. But do you remember the scene where Danny ran after Mohan's car and then was asked by Mohan if he would have married Kusum should he have been in the same position? And remember his answer? That he would have done so without hesitation? Kusum went through a lot of trauma because of the kidnapping ans because they were constantly trying to find her matches instead of letting her choose when and how she wanted to get married. If they didn't pressure her to begin with and Pramad had given Kumud a divorce, maybe Kusum wouldn't have felt like she had to pick someone right away.


One more thing, if Saras had tried to give Danny time to know the truth, there would have been even more time and opportunity for the people in the village to start gossiping about Mohan and Kusum's wedding and why it didn't happen. Noone is going to take the Desais word for it. Saras and Danny could have left for Dubai just like they were planning to originally. It's not Saras' fault that Kumud asked him to stay back. He promised that he would never desert her, and he never has. Not even with her being married to someone else.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: trina_gautam



I think Saras chose both love and his sibling. Let's not forget he still feels like he is the son of the family, even more than Yash. He never promised himself to Kusum and he only promised Kumud that Kusum would be married to one who would keep her happy. What if she had been married to Mohan instead? Would Kumud have been justified then for Saras not replacing him?


Saras should not have been put in that position to choose like that. Kumud chose to marry Pramad out of duty to her parents. Saras had to choose in the same way. There wasn't a lot of time for Danny and Saras to even make a clear choice because of the shadow cast over Kusum's reputation. Saras saved her from the kidnapping, Danny always tried to cheer her up, they both kept her secret and hid the truth from her parents. They both saved the family in a lot of ways, and all of the anger isn't going to change that.


Definitely agree that Saras should never have been put in that position in the first place! He was put into a tough spot and he came up with the best solution he could think of that would do the least damage to the 4 lives involved and to Desai family's reputation. I'm not blaming him or anything but I can't help but feel injustice has been done to his own brother. He once again proved to be a great son for them saved the Desai family but I feel this time he should have thought of and put his younger brother first and told him the whole truth. Just like I feel that in this case Kumud should have thought of and put her own love and relationship with Saras first before thinking of her sister's desires and then making irrational demands from Saras.

Edit: Just read your second post and yes I guess Danny's dialogue to Mohan and also the way Danny had told Saras once that just his love would be enough for both him and Kusum probably did play a part in the decision Saras made.
Edited by tamanna_20 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: tamanna_20


Definitely agree that Saras should never have been put in that position in the first place! He was put into a tough spot and he came up with the best solution he could think of that would do the least damage to the 4 lives involved and to Desai family's reputation. I'm not blaming him or anything but I can't help but feel injustice has been done to his own brother. He once again proved to be a great son for them saved the Desai family but I feel this time he should have thought of and put his younger brother first and told him the whole truth. Just like I feel that in this case Kumud should have thought of and put her own love and relationship with Saras first before thinking of her sister's desires and then making irrational demands from Saras.

Edit: Just read your second post and yes I guess Danny's dialogue to Mohan and also the way Danny had told Saras once that just his love would be enough for both him and Kusum probably did play a part in the decision Saras made.



Maybe injustice was done to his brother, but on the same level I think it would have been a worse injustice to have Saras marry Kusum given the long history he has with her sister. Danny went out of his way to prevent Kusum from marrying someone else, so even if he didn't know the truth I think that he would not feel it a big injustice and neither would the Desai family. They would be happy knowing they got another son who would save their younger daughter's name. Think about it, now because of the two brothers Kumari has nothing to worry about. First, they saved her from marrying an already married Umesh Solanki, and again they saved her because people can't accuse Kusum of being with Saras before marriage etc.


I agree it was an irrational demand of Saras, but I think Kumud has started believing irrationally that fate will always keep them apart. This is silly because she went against death just to be with him again. If she felt that they were meant to overcome all the obstacles, then I think she would have had a different answer for Saras. Plus, she is so used to them saving her family she gets carried away. I mean, Danny got slapped for trying to reach Kusum and I think that is an injustice in itself.


The only person I think will be cribbing about injustice at this point is Danny's mother. Guman. Because she won't be able to get a Dubai-based girl who will uphold her sense of prestige. 😳

Edited by trina_gautam - 12 years ago

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