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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jalal even inspected his mother's hand...and she is his mother...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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he has said he does not even trust his own shadow..so that scene actually made sense...and everyone was under his radar...no one was spared however close that person was to him...be it his own mother or ruqaiyya...and can we even blame him...his own family are backstabbers why on earth would he need an enemy from outside...and after what his sister did ,i see him being even more cautious where his own family is concerned...

no wonder he was so close to the Amer clan ...

and about ruqaiyya ,she has always taken pride in being first in Jalal's life regarding everything ,hence she will not react vehemently until she sees that first slipping ...which of course will be in her mind and insecurity only...but still ...she and Jalal are not capable of an emotional bond even if they tried...they are habituated to each other and best friends but even that friendship comes with terms and conditions ..the reason he seeks emotional comfort elsewhere...

and she is not without emotions ,we have seen her fear,insecurities...but her priorities are set ...mallika-e khaas ,then harem e khaas then best friend ..wife hardly features in her roles as MA had very clearly put in ...

the sad thing is for her feelings to surface ,she will see Jalal lose his heart to Jodha ...and knowing her she will demand that heart for herself first...but unfortunately it would not be Jalal's to give her or hers to take...

we chose our friends ,not the people we fall in love ...and hence she holds on tightly to the power coz even without that she will be lost in that harem like the other many women ...her fear
Edited by sun29 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: sun29



he has said he does not even trust his own shadow..so that scene actually made sense...and everyone was under his radar...no one was spared however close that person was to him...be it his own mother or ruqaiyya...and can we even blame him...his own family are backstabbers why on earth would he need an enemy from outside...and after what his sister did ,i see him being even more cautious where his own family is concerned...

no wonder he was so close to the Amer clan ...

and about ruqaiyya ,she has always prided in being first in Jalal's life regarding everything ,hence she will not react vehemently until she sees that first slipping ...which of course will be in her mind and insecurity only...but still ...she and Jalal are not capable of an emotional bond even if they tried...they are habituated to each other and best friends but even that friendship comes with terms and conditions ..the reason he seeks emotional comfort elsewhere...

and she is not without emotions ,we have seen her fear,insecurities...but her priorities are set ...mallika-e khaas ,then harem e khaas then best friend ..wife hardly features in her roles as MA had very clearly put in ...

the sad thing is for her feelings to surface ,she will see Jalal lose his heart to Jodha ...and knowing her she will demand that heart for herself first...but unfortunately it would not be Jalal's to give her or hers to take...

we chose our friends ,not the people we fall in love ...and hence she holds on tightly to the power coz even without that she will be lost in that harem like the other many women ...her fear

Neither Ruq nor Salima have a family filled with loyalists backing them as Jodha has in the Amer family. So if Jalal does crave a family that is loyal, that will be one more plus point attracting him to Jodha!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jodha's family didn't stand by her, what emotional support will they give to Jalal? Political loyality is a different matter...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

Jodha's family didn't stand by her, what emotional support will they give to Jalal? Political loyality is a different matter...

Ela, the jawaisa unfortunately usually gets more loyalty than even the daughter! So its not that if Jodha's family has one yardstick for her the same will be the case for jalal.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Jaya:

I see your point about whether Jalal disrespects Ruq or not. As you say he may not 'disrespect her" in the general sense of the word.
That's why I used the term "latent disrespect" ... rather I should have said "subliminal disrespect".
What I meant to say was that how we perceive people is usually relative. We may think someone we know is very intelligent ... until we meet someone else who seems more intelligent than them. Then our perception of the first person changes subtly and subliminally because we have been exposed to the second person.
That is what seems to my mind to be happening gently and gradually to Jalal. This is not a reference to Ruq ... it is rather more about Jalal.
He grew up using her as his sounding board. Now in his life are two other people with entirely different sets of skills and intelligence-types. Salima has experience and maturity. Jodha has a thirst for learning and is also multi-talented.
Now it is but natural that Ruq's intelligence, talents and other qualities get juxtaposed against those of Jodha and Salima who were not in the context before.
Now to judge whether such re-appraisal of Ruq's qualities has taken place in Jalal's mind, we have to judge Jalal's actions not his words. Because a loyalty to the old always makes people uncomfortable to accept that they have changed as a result to new exposures to new people. So Jalal may very well reject the fact that his loyalties towards Ruq has changed in any way with the arrival of Salima or Jodha.
But when we see some of the actions of Jalal we do see subtle change in that his "preferences" have definitely changed:
a. He has preferred to consult Salima (whatever reason he may give for not consulting Ruq)
b. He preferred to spend a whole night discussing various subjects of mutual interest with Jodha instead of going to Ruq that night when she was expecting him
These are small but subtle shifts in "preference" that say a lot about gradual changes in Jalal.
It was in this context that I saw yesterday's hand-inspection of Ruq as also a small but subtle change in Jalal. It is my belief that Jalal may not have put Ruq down as a suspect in slightly earlier times, but now that there is Salima and Jodha in his life, his relative judgement of Ruq may have subtly altered!
The word "respect" or "disrespect" in this instance is to me about "subliminal respect for the person's judgements".
Let me give you an example:
I may have grown up with my brother whose judgement I respect on issues pertaining to how to repair my car, as my brother is more knowledgeable on these matters than me. But if I later get a boyfriend who is an automotive engineer, he may look more knowledgeable to me about cars than my brother. So if my car develops a fault, I may now take the matter by preference to my boyfriend (whose judgement I now respect more on this matter), instead of going as before to my brother who I used to take help from earlier.
I now respect my boyfriend's judgement more than I respect my brother's with respect to autombiles. But that does not mean I've stopped respecting my brother in general. I can still respect my brother as a close person to me, even though I do not respect his judgement so much in the matters of cars as I used to before.
This is what I meant with respect to Ruq.
Now if you take the same example slightly further, when I respect my brother's judgement on car issues less, if the car were to develop a fault when he is driving, my latent disrespect for my brother may manifest itself as my suspecting it was his fault.
He may not be at fault, but because I now judge his knowledge as having slightly less value, I may be quick in bracketing him as a possible suspect for the fault in the car if he was driving it, which I may not have done before.
Am I making sense?


You are making full sense dear and I never suspect that either. My head is spinning😉 😉. Here I am holding my ears for not sensing the sense in your post😉😉😉
Edited by deejagi - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: elasingh

Jodha's family didn't stand by her, what emotional support will they give to Jalal? Political loyality is a different matter...


not emotionally support ...i doubt he will seek it from them ...more on the lines of political loyalty which he needs and that loyalty will seep into personal equation as well...

as mansi said betisa and jawaisa ,different yardstick altogether 😆..

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