Blast from the Past Thread #20 !!Nafrat Door Jaane Na De!! p117 ep 206 - Page 54

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

I read somewhere you mentioned Astitva. Nice show with strong characters. Loved the female lead and her help too. The male protagonist very real. But, felt irked when they kept on dragging way too much. I quit after the leap. Some shows were good, but mostly lost its way after some time. I had seen IPK promos, my reaction was 'wow, looks interesting'. I used to love love stories. But, the way the stories were being butchered in TV shows, I didn't have any hope for it. Started watching very late. But, it took time for me to get hooked. It grew on me slowly, very very slowly. Needless to say, it has caught on to me very strongly.
Yes, the storyline deteriorated here too. But, one of the many things that I loved was there were no multiple marriages for the protagonists. When the promo for the forced marriage came, I was happy. I felt atleast they are getting married to each other rather than getting married to someone else. I guess my hopes for this show were up from this point, in a strange way. The story had started losing its hold, but the few strong threads were still unharmed.
Saptapadi, the Telugu movie? If yes, then try Sankarabharanam next, its awesome. Infact, you can watch any movie directed by K.Viswanath. They are all marvels.



hi durga,

astitva was interesting, perhaps the only hindi serial with a real, thought out female protagonist, and issues of gender, identity, age, all brought up and looked at as clearly as possible. the idea of a younger man and a much older woman was new in soap and explored with feeling.

i was not hooked to it, many of my friends were. i would watch an episode once in a way. didn't have glamour, but lots of substance and at least one imaginable female protagonist. sorry, i am not at all a candidate for the parvatis and prernas , tulsis and the balika bodhus of this universe. i understand their need but i have not even one second for them because they believe ina way of life i have long dissociated myself from... i was actually never of that thinking.

khushi was funnily enough more my girl. in her i could see me, sometimes...

oh i so get your point about them not being married off to other people and all teh usual soap sickness. actually ipk was refreshingly free of the soap language, including the dhang dhang dhang close up of each person editing style and excessive campy drama.

what i loved about ipk was the exploration of a feeling called love and what it can do, what it makes you capable of, all its weird challenges and the unpredictable melting of heart. mainly, it brought love centre stage and said this feeling is worth much... and it is not exactly what you thought it was. i loved that. maybe because i believe in love and that sort of love.

yes, i am a bit impossible on this topic.

and as love stories go it was perfect for me... there was a fabulous pair, but no one had to die, no one had to get raped or marry others... tragedy wasn't its inspiration, joy and life and hope were. it takes more courage to live with the love of your life than to die. ipk said that, i liked that a lot.

asr and khushi are no less than romeo and juliet, heer and ranjha, laila and majnu and all other great lovers to me. difference is they both lived. in a city. and went to work. like any one of us.



and even after everything went crazy in terms of writing, the lovers kept me here. still here. see?
😆


saptapadi is beautiful bengali film with uttam and suchitra, the incomparable jodi of bengali cinema, made in 1961. set in the forties, pre independence india, now taking on the "gora" in many ways, it's the moving tale of rina brown an anglo indian girl and krishnendu mukherjee a bright medical student... hindu bengali. he comes from an orthodox family but is a progressive thinker with a contemporary soul. she is brought up to look down on the indians... blackie as she calls him, yet finds herself terribly attracted. a lovely deep film, exploring issues of colour, religion, independence, spirituality, hypocrisy and that thingw e call love. some scenes feel dated, but i don't mind, the core is lovely. deep, with unity and integrity of story telling. the film makers then had such a different desire to tell a story with all their heart and mind... dil and dimag. even after 50 years that stays and attracts and makes spending a couple of hours watching a happy experience, a thrilling one.



Edited by indi52 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Episode 202

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN5tbIW3Dhk[/YOUTUBE]

First Telecast on Tuesday, 6th March 2012
Thanks, Katelyn and Indi for all the links.

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Blaster's takes Episode 201 - 206
Edited by supriya.arshi - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Hey blasters
The thread
It feels home
came home late. went to hospital from work. thanks for your good wishes for my colleague's son and the boy's mother. both are doing well. but is it true, will his longevity of life be affected because of his borrowed kidney? another of my colleague's father is gong to have an angioplasty and yet another colleague's brother a by-pass! Bhagwan jab deta hai to chhapar fad ke deta hai!
Kate heard the 3 track music ⭐️ and let it seep in and fill me with calm, after I realized that there is no point catching up coz i am like more than 10 pages behind!
But Soha I saw the fuzzy Vm. What a wonderful friend yaar and a great Vmer.
What happened to soni's eyes? why is no one blowing into it?
I see mention of Indi's sizzling purple! I like purple, its a mix of his blue and her red !
And I am delighted to see BD back!
And thanks all for liking my 200+ likes, coz each of your special likes = 10 normal likes. So that makes itYay! More!
And in the middle of all my ad have forgotten that I have to pursue my man! Unbelievable! 😲
Edited by wiwy - 11 years ago
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Wiwy, good to see you my friend!
I am sure those hospital trips must be exhaustive both mentally, physically.
Hope your friend's son does well. Kidney transplant science has gone up leaps and bounds and the life expectancy rate is very good right now, especially with living donors. Its far more efficient than undergoing frequent dialysis.
Take care.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: BarunDiwani

Uff just had to comment. Agree something so dark and beautiful about this wedding. All I feel is his infinite love pulsating in his vessels and knocking his heart, echoing don't let it go, snatch it, grab it and that's what he did. When he says ye lo sindoor aur mangal sutra jo tumhare liye itni mayne rakhti hai, again in a twisted way he had to make it sound as if he can use her symbolic faith as a weapon against her for the betrayal. Deep down the wedding in front of DM is an expression of his hurt and love as well as respect, a permanent reminder to her, family exclusively Shyam and society that she is tied only to him. All this time, he is waiting for her to speak out. K is not allowed any monologue or flashbacks, to think that possibly he knows what happened between her and Shyam. After all this was happening at RM, but story had to move. At least they showed support from Shashi. Only he knows Shyam's ferocity and could have guessed the unthinkable. This wedding is something like what happened after he realizes that K is engaged, now at a much grander scale. If he went to such extremes to hurt her when both were supposed to be committed to their respectives, imagine now when she is free.
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sohara

hey ami, good to see you. Missing you a lot. We all are in debating spree, 😆 Plz if you have time, do join us.

Plz don't hesitate to steal him. He is ours. so no problem.



Sohara you are really very generous...
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: DurgaS

Good for you AD. Will try to take a look if possible. You know, unlike many here, I have been a regular serial watcher. Most serials start off really well, only to sink into a mess in due course. I would watch the show till it started deteriorating and then would quit. Very few shows I stuck to till the end. But after IPK, I couldn't make myself watch another show even in its initial stages. After sometime I felt, would I ever watch a serial again?



Durga the show has just begun... But now itself I feel I that I won't be able to stick to it for long 😆 Anyway it is a decent watch... But after watching TP, I went back to watch my Arshi before I slept... I must say nothing can come close to even 1 % of IPK... Many shows will come & go; but my day will begin & end with Arshi only 😊
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: indi52


asr and khushi are no less than romeo and juliet, heer and ranjha, laila and majnu and all other great lovers to me.



Golden words di... When I watched Arshi, I felt like seeing my dreams come true... I got the feeling that yes this is that love story I wanted to see all these years... A fairytale which I have heard & grown up... Now I am actually seeing them everyday... Many shows try beauty & the beast concept; but they couldn't capture my imagination... IPK did !!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
episode 201


the episode before stunned me with a man speaking in bated tone about his "chot" then looking away, irises dark chocolate, shimmering in the afternoon light.

i wondered what would follow. and along came 201, an episode i didn't understand at all. as in why was it quite so pointless and vacuous. no rhyme no rhythm... just a girl had to wonder about "chot" and the man to the goat... yes, we saw lakshmi ji after a longish break... she was always refreshing and a neat actor; and somehow khushi and her arnav ji had to reach a bowl of kheer.

well at least she did wonder as to what had given her husband so much pain and had he found out about shyam ji. then said, can't be, who'd tell him. yeah, really who would? everybody, especially she were so busy not divulging a thing to him... mujhe batana zaroori nahin samjha? he'll ask hurt and upset one day. shyam being a liar is one thing, but the girl he loves not trusting him?

in the midst of it all, she is given a dialogue again added to highlight her love for others... i wonder is it wrong to show your love for the one you love?


"hume sab kuch bahut soch samjhkar karna hoga... anjali ji maa banne wali hai aur hamari wajah se unhen koi pareshani nahin honi chahiye."

i must do everything with caution and wisdom... anjali ji is going to be a mother, she should not get upset in anyway because of me.


anyway to bring this kheer point about a fairly slapstick episode got going, with no connection to anything whatsoever. maybe it was also barun and sanaya's off day or somethin, it fell upon utkarsha naik to carry most of the soap and she struggled valiantly with a meaningless script to somehow do that. perhaps all writers were on leave too and lakshmi ji wanted to try her hand at writing... i am sorry, the care with which all things related to gray matter were left out in 90 percent of the episode gets me nasty.

but the important thing is that the kheer was reached.

before that, however, some jalebis... a mountain of them in fact. who could have made it? mami ji, anjali and sweet shyam wonder. transpires shyam knows when khsuhi makes jalebi...

tense moments with wife and shrewd mami in law, "damat ji how do you knowj?" asks the shatir one. yes, damat ji, tells me pilleejh.

anjali says, though she knows about it bit she hasn't told him.

"asal mein..." actually... mutters shyam ji desperately looking for a lie.

"ji, maine bataya jeeja ji ko..." i told jeeja ji, a husky quick line... asr in white shirt and gray waistcoat chimes in smoothly. an intensity about him. oh no, he heard that, i think. again an intimacy hinted at between kkg and shyam... chot and more chot.

the two men confront each other. tense music, camera pans, a sense of battle...

"after all, khushi meri patni hai... mujhe uske baare mein sab pata hai."

after all, khushi is my wife, i know everything about her.

yes, khushi is out of someone's reach now... because she is now his patni... get that... jeeja ji.

ah here's the kheer... which miraculously is sweet but without any sugar in it. this is a recipe with which kkg could have become a billionaire, maybe asr will help her do just that.

chhotey had gone out but is now back and anjali asks khushi to give him some kheer.

khushi in the meantime is determined to find out if her suspicion is right, if asr knows about shyam, what gave him that chot? khsuhi looks genuinely concerned for asr. at least for this one episode.


she comes running with the kheer, as he walks down the stairs in a bit of a rush, moving beautifully. they bang into each other.

kheer on his waistcoat... he's livid.

but he looks up and sees sis... the kheer bringer.

"aap iss tarah bina baat kiye baar baar nahin jaa sakte... aapko hume batana hoga..." he would have walked away but khsuhi says, you can't always leave without telling me anything, you have to tell me.

cut to another pov and the first shot of double is on. double in all shots from the back... terrible editing and continuity...

"ki humne aapko kab dukh..." when did i give you pain...

before she can complete her sentence, he grabs her upper arm.

"tumhe.. bilkul andaza nahin hai na?" a slightly soft, quizzical air, gentle voice, you have no idea, right? he asks.

she's shocked at the gentle voice, bemused she shakes her head.

"nahin?" no?!!

and that slight slight sexy playful smile on an angry hurt man's lips. all because he hates her of course...

"ki tum gusse mein kitni sundar lagti ho..." that you look so beautiful when you're angry. along with that confounding statement, the grin is lopsided.

the hated wife is stupefied.

the sister is pleased and peering.

"kya?!!" says the wife.

the double's ear bothers indi... what the.

"par isska matlab yeh toh nahin ki tum mujhse hamesha guss raho." but that doesn't mean you remain angry with me all the time. hearts are flipping on and off screen at the dip in the "hamesha"... the little boy look in the eyes. an almost pout there.

music comes in.

"come!" husky commanding voice, and with a devastating sugar free smile... nafrat at its most lethal.

he holds her and pulls her to a chair... sister is happy.

"baitho?!!" sit?!! so gentle... arms reaching for her easily, wanting her...

makes her sit, she is horrified at turn of mood..

she opens her mouth and words don't emerge, he jerks his head in a little ishara... loving smile on.

he's enjoying her confusion...

"woh keh rahe the... ke hum aap ko hume batana hoga ki hum..." i was saying that you... i... you must tell me. khushi is still trying to get her answer.

he stuffs a spoon of kheer into her mouth... shutting her up.

eyes are chocolate melting, loving hating.

trrring ting... you can't fool the music... there is that thing between two people, a thing that can't be given a name. rabba ve knows every moment it reveals itself.

he wipes the kheer off the corner of her lips and looks up to see if di is there.

poor khushi, her feelings are in a mess.

he leans forward, holds her arm again and makes her feed him.


as he closes his lips over the kheer heaped spoon, eyes on her eyes, rabba ve plays... did he really not want her to feed him?

oh he wants her so so much.

di is delighted.

khushi is dazed.

he starts chewing and indi is dead.

another bite, oh man in grey and white... waist coat so snug, a gorgeous leanness, why must you do this. this is a meaningless empty, flippant episode, i the viewer am supposed to hate it, give an honest scathing report and with as nort switch to 202, yet here i am as you make 201 memorable with a smile, a pout, a voice, a chew, even a double.

a sense of youth and bristling energy... sometimes angry, sometimes loving.

khushi is so beautiful in a normal saree with her pompom, her churis, her kangans, her confusion, her pyaar, her aching heart... only that lack of story.

"tumhare haathon se khakar bina cheeni ke kheer bhi meethi lag rahi hai..." eaten from your hands, even kheer without sugar tastes sweet.


hey hey... she looks up... is he for real... is he that guy by the mirror who had said "bas karni hai"?... is he?... her expression is so tender and heart breaking, she does want her arnav ji so... even though he's hurt her so much. tremulous, half expectant, half fearful air.

he goes to feed her again... cut to double and wrong editing but rabba ve plays let's stay with the mood

she chokes.

he's concerned instantly, "khushi!!"

he takes the plate... "khushi, you okay?"vvoice panicky almost.

as she coughs and he reaches for water, she looks up...

there's anjali... and it's clear to her at last.

"khushi, are you alright? yeh lo paani..." and she refuses it. one neat pushing away of his concern and care.

he's perplexed.

she stands up, "anjali ji ja chuki hain... aap ko yeh natak karne ki koi zaroorat nahin hai." anjali ji is gone, you don't have to do this play acting.

he takes a bit of time to react... his hand drops from her arm.

"aap ne yeh sab anjali ji ke liye kiya tha na?" you did all this for her, didn't you?

angry hurt look.


just eyes speak.. what do they say? why do i read her sadness, her confusion... and his confusion and a certain tiredness. he puts the glass down and swings away, no words are needed... just two people caught in a terrible place, yet not wanting to leave each other. have we all been here sometimes.

and in that moment, somehow a note of eternity enters an episode that was pretty bad.
Edited by indi52 - 11 years ago

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