Is Jagya a better lover than Shiv? : VB nt pg 18

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Posted: 12 years ago
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First of, I am NOT comparing their entire record in every arena of life. Or make ups/break ups of their relationships with women.

I am trying to discuss behaviour when in love with or totally attached to a woman.

Little Jagya would rebel and cry if DS tortured Anandi too much. He would secretly smuggle food to her when DS would lock up Anandi in kal-kothri. He once ran away from home to meet Anandi when DS turned her out.

When he was with Gauri, he would do anything to be with her. He knew family would bark, still he would warn her, prepare her for what she'd be in for and enter with her, holding her hands. He was willing to bear any barb from anyone to be with her.

With Ganga, he borne everything from insults to brickbats to support her. He has openly revolted when people crossed their limits barking at her. He always tried to protect her past from being flung out too.

Each time he has rather borne being disowned, thrown out of home or even thrown out of village - only for sake of woman he loved.

Currently, he could have easily said he married Ganga immediately because he had become afraid and protective of her after she escaped rape in Mangalore. But he remained silent only because he does not want to bring out her personal trauma to public.

Whereas Shiv? Okay he was God before his family came into picture and defended Anandi in front of Ira in UD drama, but does he put himself on the line?

What was he doing when Sanchi did that dirty skit on their sangeet and Singhs and Anandi were visibly embarassed?
Why did he remain silent when Ira was blasting Anandi after that itwari bazaar incident? Only to speak meekly in her defense after she had been thoroughly blasted by Ira?
How did he react when Anandi told him truth of Sanchi's bribing? How did he cut her when she began to tell Shekhars about coffee shop incident?

There is Jagya who does not want to bring Anandi's name into this and does not want to discuss Ganga's past or recent trauma either.
Whereas there is Shiv who is ready to float Anandi as Jagya's "ex wife" in court?!

Jagya also desperately wants his family yet he is willing to be kicked out if they do not accept the woman he loves.

What does Shiv do? Occasional "Mom please" or "it's difficult for Anandi"?

Ira isolating Anandi in KB now is akin to DS locking her in kaal kothris in childhood. But this time her beend is not sneaking in to provide support to her.

I remember during Mahavir Singh track, both little Anandi and Jagya had gone to his house and DS was livid. She bashed Anandi like anything for it. But little Jagya cried and asked DS, that he too had gone with Anandi so why was she scolding only her?

Here Mister Shiv also knew about Jagya and had said yes for this rishta, even quelled Anandi when she expressed reservations. How has he forgotten it and is behaving as if only he and his family were wronged?

NOTE AGAIN - PLEASE DO NOT MAKE IT A FIGHT AND DON'T START COMPARING WOMEN. IT'S MORE ABOUT ATTITUDE OF MAN IN LOVE WHICH I SOUGHT TO DISCUSS. SORRY if I offended anyone with my post.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jagya dearly loves his ladies
atleast he dares to voice in front of entire world -that I love my girl
He acts like HERO in love

Shiv is ZERO. not even his wife feel he love her , forget he claiming
his affection publicly



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yes!!
Now a days, I like him more than Shiv...
Actually, by hiding Sanchi's mistakes, Shiv is doing a great mistake...
The he is just ignoring the fact that his wife is being ill-treated in his house...
Even befors Sanchi incident, he kept his mouth mum, when Sanchi & Ira scolding her...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Jagya is all for the lady with whom he is.
Only his lady keeps on changing. For his lady, he can kick his entire family and any one else in the worth.
Till now Jagya got only fresh ladies, now he gets ganga who has a baggage as Ratan Singh and his family. So let him face Ratan Singh s parents coming in for Mannu agai and again then we will see how good lover he is.
And let him be with Ganga for a year then we will compare.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Tis better to be balanced and calm than be in extremes. Jagya was either too good to his lovers like fighting for them, getting drenched in rain to gain them OR he would abuse them or leave them. Shiv might not this this passionate...but he doesn't abuse or abandon his lover! So anyday i'd prefer a guy like Shiv than Jagya!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well said👍🏼
These all were the reasons which i liked him once when he was negative too...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I will say that Jagya is a better human being if conditions are conducive.😉

Shiv seems to be a cold and calculating person.

Shiv cant face bad weather with grace.

Today in court, Jagya looked like a boy below 18. Kachcha bachcha.😆

Edited by leavesandwaves - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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It is not about love. it is about respect to woman
I have pointed same thing about both men in my some previous post

Even when Gauri was throwing tantrums against Anandi and jagya left A still he said that A is very good. no one can take place of her. he only lost faith in A when he lost his child . that s the reason i was expecting of their unite until Jagya became complete negative

even when he came to bH with Gauri and gauri was saying what is good thing in A that all people praise her , that time too Jagya supported A even if he married Gauri and that too in absence of any BH people

he left A but still he rushed to save her when she was kidnapped

and still he knows truth of sanchi but he gets penic when sanchi;s character is being questioned

whilst where is shiv

he kept silence all time when A is getting abused, questioned and ORDERED to support lie
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think shiv doesn't really know what to do with the women in his life and only sees the kitchen politics as it will blow over after a while. It not major issues to him unlike the time when ira talked to Sumitra about their non existent sex life then he felt he had to sort it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I think Jagya has truly changed and whatever good qualities he had have become more prominent and the ones he had but used for negative actions have also now been channeled for positive things.

Obviously, here too people will bash Jagya to the smithereens and bring up his past...but since I believe his intentions are truly not to harm people or to hurt others, I will say that whatever Jagya feels, I always feel the same with twice or thrice the depth...and I feel his love is truly deep and true here. He looks truly committed to Ganga and has already seen & heard a lot bec. of his commitment to her both on the grounds of humanitarian work and now as her husband...he has even faced death for her, and humiliation too...so I do think he loves her to pieces.

Even Meenu looked moved when Jagya shouted at the lawyer that he loves Ganga.

As for Shiv, I think he has been truly blinded by his sister...and I'm still in shock that it's to this extent...I understand his support of Sanchi but I don't get why he is so cold towards Anandi...not even a smile...totally avoiding her or talking to her as if she's his enemy...in this aloof manner, that's surprising.


Do I think one is a better lover than the other? No...I think they've had different lives, they have different personalities...they love differently...but I think now Jagya has become a lot like his own father Bhairon...calmer, just, caring...balanced...and he found the healer of his past wounds in Ganga, someone with whom he could look past his own perceptions and harsh criticisms of his own mistakes and look forward.

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