Episode 254 Discussion: 24th April 2013

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Posted: 12 years ago

#61

I was thinking since yesterday if I want to really write this. But then this thing is playing on my head since forever. I am not liking the physical proximity being initiated by Madhu even if its just hugs when her sole intention is to take revenge.It doesn't suit the character they porrayed since the begining. Even Rk during his entire revenge fiasco was maintaining that physical distance. I would prefer Madhu doing he same incase only revenge is on her mind.

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war_is_peace

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Posted: 12 years ago

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these thoughts r playing on my mind since yesterday

1) madhu is going the wrong way by showing RK all the goody goody without opposing to anything...i dont think RK will trust her until she opposes(irony)...if she maintains a distance physically n shows how she is still upset with him then he will trust her in no time...i wonder why she is behaving so unlike herself...anybody can guess something is wrong let alone RK,even sikki guessed it! so for madhu, maintaining distance is one way to stump RK n gain his trust...

2) when RK was consoling madhu n when he spoke about the mother n baby relation i just felt that he was desperately craving for his mom's love...dunno if its only me but i really felt this way...

3)i have a feeling that madhu has lost trust/hope in radhaji..

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Nabakov_Musings

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Posted: 12 years ago

#63

I just don't understand why do people ever talk about moral yardsticks in love like Padmini did. If it were that way then Hitler would not have had a woman happily dying with him despite him making the human race extinct! If only love succumbed to human conceit , expectations and folly , it would not have made us even half of the person we pride ourselves to be.There is a reason why Love has always been above our head , our prejudices , our moral yardsticks , and our version of "sensibilities" that turn out to look foolish to us as we grow up. We coax love but the truth is it makes us redeem as people from our human egotism and "morals" more than we deserve.It is our reason less love for people that makes us even half as good as a person we are seen to be. So saying you are selling yourself for love as Padmini says is baseless. Selling is not hopelessly clinging onto someone without your permission , that is sadly love. Selling is again a human conception of immorality , and morals and deviance never apply or are rather aliens in the subject of feelings. Madhu , whatever she is doing , I refuse to believe she does not harbor feelings for RK still. Anyway.

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Posted: 12 years ago

#64

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Another good review that talks away from Rishbala and talks about mothers and changing dynamics.

And the son-in-law knew exactly how his MIL will treat him. We all knew, they both had better chemistry in terms of their firebrand emotional thinking. Both are emotional and rational at the same time unlike Madhu and so they both always match in reactions to situations. RK actually always agrees to what Padmini says and he is always in awe of her from deep inside, even if on the outside he talks rudely to become the bad person that he feels safe in projecting before her. Both of them are like...lets not waste each other's time...and yet its always RK who is more sensitive to her.

Thanks Shri...since you are light years ahead of me in analyzing the dynamics of this show, I consider it high praise.

@bold - one of the good traits I appreciate in RK. He is usually very respectful of his MIL.

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Hello everybody 😊 I'm a silent reader of EDT for months. Huge admirer of the writers and the intelligent discussions here. Have finally become a member today. Posted my first post in the main forum and just recreating it here as a way of introducing myself...

Today I feel as betrayed by Madhu as I felt betrayed by RK during the unwedding drama. What has happened to you girl? Have you turned into another RK who doesn't care about anybody's feelings accept her own? What happened to your high morals and values?

I admired you when you picked yourself up the morning after the betrayal and went back to your beauty parlour job. I admired you when you took up RK's 3-day challenge and defeated him. I admired you when you refused to answer RK's questions about Sultan and told him that it was none of his business. But now you have lost my respect by your decision of playing a love game with RK. Why are you stooping to his level?

1. So he kidnapped you. Emotionally blackmailed you into staying with him. Couldn't you have done the same to him? Couldn't you have refused to eat till he lets you go? If you had just starved yourself for a couple of days, he would have been forced to let you go as he would have understood that his pressure tactics won't work. But you kept giving in every time, thus indirectly encouraging him. Why o why did you panic when he threatened to take off his shirt? Whatever his faults, he has always been a gentleman in the bedroom. So why use that as an excuse to give in to him one more time?

2. So you lied to your mother fearing for her health? Where did that fear go when you returned to RK mansion without giving her a hint of what you are planning? After seeing how shattered your mother is, why was your first priority apologising to Sultan? I know you will eventually clear things with your mother but the fact that her feelings or health is not your top-most priority shows that you are 'maa ke sahaare balveer' only when it suits you.

3. Pray tell, what's with the puppy-dog eyes to Sultan? Why did you have to apologise to him in the first place? Oh wait, he did you a favour of putting a revolver to your husband's head for your good. Of course you should apologise to such a guy for a few harsh words. Never mind if you have already saved his life a few times. Of course you have to admire the way he handles his relationships. Never mind if he uses his only relationship, his son, to bait his enemies.

4. So you have decided to give RK a taste of his own medicine? Okay then. But why get so touchy-feely with him? Why the seductive dance? Is it not against your values to get intimate with a man you are still not sure of? My dear girl, do you realise that you have to go back home with the same guy and sleep on the same bed with him? What if RK, encouraged by your coochie-cooing in the morning and seductive moves in the evening, wants to consummate the marriage? How are you going to stop him? The saat-phera excuse won't work because you made it clear to him during the village night that you are willing to go ahead without the complete wedding?

This is not the Madhu I signed up for. RK is a kameena but he was one from the beginning. What's your excuse?

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Posted: 12 years ago

#66

Originally posted by: blacklambo
Thanks Shri...since you are light years ahead of me in analyzing the dynamics of this show, I consider it high praise.

@bold - one of the good traits I appreciate in RK. He is usually very respectful of his MIL.

on the unwedding night RK said, "dhyaan rakhna iska kahin khud ko kuch kar na le!"

doesn't this mean that he has always known the intensity of the pain he gave her??

ps: i know its not related but ur conversation made me remind this talk hence the question..

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Posted: 12 years ago

#67

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0
The son and son-in-law has equal and good expectations from his mother and mother-in-law in the dream. In reality, the viewers can see that why RK was calling his mother "mujhe janam dene waali aurat". Radhaji does not have gumption enough to teach her son good things. He is a forceful personality that will bow down only to tremendous love and faith in him. And this is where the mother fails. In his eyes, the mother always failed to even have conviction on her own self. We can see that since he reconciled with his mother, he has always shown craving for her company, food and even listened to her after revenge drama. She is once again distancing herself, where he is still dreaming her importance. Ofcourse this is CV's plot device to bring Sultan and Madhu as teachers for RK, but yet, its a trait shown again, which proves how all along RK had been right about his mother and only because of Madhu's wish to reconcile with his mother. he forgot, forgave all the grudges and reconciled. So he was being honest to Madhu.

And the son-in-law knew exactly how his MIL will treat him. We all knew, they both had better chemistry in terms of their firebrand emotional thinking. Both are emotional and rational at the same time unlike Madhu and so they both always match in reactions to situations. RK actually always agrees to what Padmini says and he is always in awe of her from deep inside, even if on the outside he talks rudely to become the bad person that he feels safe in projecting before her. Both of them are like...lets not waste each other's time...and yet its always RK who is more sensitive to her.

May be it was end of mother and MIL involvement today for him, but it achieved a lot of moral and mental clarity for RK and viewers.

Shri,

@blue... His mother along with his Sasuma are his moral compasses...he saw his mother standing for Madhu and trying to get her out of the mansion before ...hence probably the dream where he thinks she would support Padmini...He is not much aware to his mothers conflict as a mother and as a woman as we viewers were made aware of through her convo with madhu except for one instance when he is surprised to know that Radhaji went to chawl to figure out if Madhu indeed moved on...he also questions her as to why she got in between this mess,why she went there...if she really is on his side she wouldn't have slapped him...I think like any child he wishes his mother support him irrespective of what he does...its a natural pain from a child's pov though he very well knows that its not right..if some one credible is on his side it would naturally boost his confidence...

@Red...Add to that I feel he even fears his Sasuma 😆...She is one who killed her husband (for whom she kept vrats) for her daughter after all...On a serious note, he fears her out of respect exactly as a stubborn,unruly child fearing only the one whom he loves and looks up to ..Usually it's he who intimidates people but,his Sasuma intimidates him with her fierce protective nature...😆 and of course

with high moral ground...

Edited by himbin - 12 years ago