Episode 197 Discussion: 16th Feb 2013 - Page 13

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

For me it is the other way round. Rishabh is the weaker, introverted personality. RK is the Super Ego of Rishabh, stronger and extroverted personality. RK's primary job is to take care of Rishabh's demands. Rishabh drives RK to do what he wants.

Madhu has never liked Rishabh. She likes RK, the happy extrovert self, when it forgets to take care of Rishabh. This is where she had bought in RK 's deal in going away to some place. Her negotiation was that she would forever be able to reconcile Rishabh and RK into accepting her whole-heartedly and she will have all RK for herself.

Madhu knows that it was Rishabh which drove RK to do what he did, but she does not like that RK went to such an extent of faking that she did not get to see when RK was real and when faking.

If I am confusing you all...to simplify,

I say that RK is the persona which acts ...as in be the superstar, or be the man sleeping in his trackpants on his bed. He is the one waking up in fear seeing his mother scared and unable to see himself in the mirror. He is the one who broke Madhu's heart by saying revenge and faking, he is the one who is now preserving Madhu's memories. Good or Bad , this person is healthy and flowing.

Rishabh on the other hand is the person whom no one can see, as RK has locked him up at the express command of Rishabh. It is this Rishabh, who is extremely demanding, possessive of RK himself and will not let RK live a wholesome life as he gloats in pain and relives the pain. It is called some kind of psychological behaviour, where the object repeatedly creates hurt for himself. What Madhu did is, she fixed some of Rishabh's hurts because Rishabh in his revenge plan allowed RK to use those insecurities. Now we do not know what more Rishabh has held back. This is where we will get to see how much now RK is going to go against his weaker personality...because it is now time for RK to choose between Rishabh and Madhu...and RK knows that Madhu loves RK though she accepted RIshabh too; but with a plan to cure him.


Most of this .. in fact almost all of this went over my head.😕
You make it sound as if there are two minds with their own thought processes separate of the other in one body. My mind just can't handle such complexities. But I'll have a go ...

So RK is the persona which Rishabh wields to protect himself. RK is what the world sees and Rishabh just lets them see what he wants. Meaning that RK is just a part of the whole that is Rishabh.. Am I at least on the right track?
Edited by Angeena - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
Puja,
Weren't the characters of Imran khan and Amir khan too mild in those movies as compared to RK? 😆They were just non believers in love. Whereas RK? Well, what should I say? 😆
Edited by Ananya05 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Puja,
Weren't the characters of Imran khan and Amir khan too mild in those movies as compared to RK? 😆They were just non believers in love. Whereas RK? Well, what should I say? 😆


True. Imran Khan's character was in denial. And Aamir Khan's character knew that Preity Zinta's character was engaged. They never broke the heroine's heart.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Puja, Shri

Take a bow. What a commendable analysis on RKs character. It was wonderful to read.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12


As for my comment ...I have always convinced myself that since love is so rare and coveted ...it is obvious its price has to be too high too. I see love like a rare flower that blooms for couple of hours after years of care and nurturing. It is a spectacle that forever stays with you and changes your perception of life.
It is for everyone to decide for themselves if they would pay the price to see the rare bloom or not? Would they put in the work needed or not? One could always argue that the price and work needed is not worth it.

@bold
I will advise that it is worth it. But I will also say, it is worth it only for the convinced and pure persons that make them strong personalities. Cannot say about weaker personalities, because ignorant people make foolish and snobbish of themselves, but bitter people who failed in love brew more bitterness and spew more venom in the world.

One should understand that Loving is Losing oneself to the other...in love. And if losing yourself hurts you, then u are incapable of loving anyone other than yourself. And also all relationships necessarily do not end up in gain, sometimes relationships are unsuccessful as well. That does not mean love was not pure between them.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Angeena


Most of this .. in fact almost all of this went over my head.😕
You make it sound as if there are two minds with their own thought processes separate of the other in one body. My mind just can't handle such complexities. But I'll have a go ...

So RK is the persona which Rishabh wields to protect himself. RK is what the world sees and Rishabh just lets them see what he wants. Meaning that RK is just a part of the whole that is Rishabh.. Am I at least on the right track?


Angeena,
Yes, you are on right track. Got my pulse.

This is what I had deciphered in September 2012 about MEIEJ and it always works for me to understand the story.

Ishq -

  • RK's ishq is caring and being possessive about MB. There's certain level of deewanapan in the way he's after her. Be it to show his smirks or making his peremptory demands, its his expression of admiration for her, attraction for her and the desire to be in her company. Cluelessly enamoured royal tiger...I may as well be shameless and say seems in perpetual heat when around MB.
  • MB's Ishq - Am guessing that it too will be possessive like RK. And her ishq so far has an expression of giving spontaneous response to RK's any kind of act. She just can't stop reacting to him. Cluelessly affected by him. She is angry, child-like, demanding, puppy-faced, looking teased and a royal queen.

Junoon -

  • Rishabh's junoon is to hide away under his mask or be a recluse in his cave. His junoon is also to conserve his Super Ego. Those who strike it, they are GONE! That's why MB has been the target. She questioned his thought-process, his way of living.
  • Madhu's junoon is to fight for others cares without any thought for her. She goes to insane limits. Take the case of Mukund, Shamsher Malik... and now it is RK and her standing up to restore his faith in his friend and care-taker Ganesha'.and soon a day is going to come when she will decide to take care of Rishu, when she understands that Rishabh's way of living is not a living but a coping to live through'..her eternal fight with Rishabh.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Shri,
If I go by ur explanation of RK vs Rishabh persona, it means it is RK the stronger of the two who has fallen in love with Madhu, whereas Rishabh is still reeling in his insecurities and incapable of loving Madhu? It is Rishabh who is not allowing RK to accept his love for Madhu as he wants RK to continue shielding him. Right?
Sorry if this sounds repetitive. 😆 . Its a lil complicated for me. But I think I am finally getting there. 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Ananya05

Shri,
If I go by ur explanation of RK vs Rishabh persona, it means it is RK the stronger of the two who has fallen in love with Madhu, whereas Rishabh is still reeling in his insecurities and incapable of loving Madhu? It is Rishabh who is not allowing RK to accept his love for Madhu as he wants RK to continue shielding him. Right?
Sorry if this sounds repetitive. 😆 . Its a lil complicated for me. But I think I am finally getting there. 😆


Yes, you got it...
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: dramacrazy12

Ananya ...I call this tough love.
They see the chemistry and what they bring to each other's life despite couple denying it. Actually RK denying it and unfortunately RK hold all the decision making power here.
Here is my question...she make RK a better man so it is obvious that everyone would want her to stay in RK's life. But what does/could RK bring in Madhu's life? She has invested herself completely by giving a piece of her soul to RK. If RK were to be genuinely invested in the relationship ...he would cherish Madhu like no other...he would love her like no other...all her dreams would come true...she would never need for anything else ever again but more than that her faith would be restored, her heart would heal...she will be whole again with time and patience. Otherwise she is destined to live her life with her heart broken, her soul fractured and a cloud of sorrow and darkness always around her.
The reason they think this is a worthy endevour is not just for RK but Madhu also.
I look at this as judge asking a couple divorcing to give thier relationship another six months or a parent forcing a stubborn couple to open channels of communication between them.



Pnars, Ananya, Puja, superb exchange.⭐️👏
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Soundarya22


agree to that 😊 Shri's reasoning is okay and Puja's also...both r correct view points..i still didn't like it..it's well in his capability to expose Dipali at any point of time and throw her out of his life... i'm trying not figure out any of the "WHY's" related to Rishabh Kundra 😆 bec. it's a waste of time..not to forget that 6 months analysis on RK just went down the drain 🤣 i'll rather follow Shri's advise and comment/like/dislike whatever the writers r throwing at me...😛

@Puja, Ananya, Shri, awesome analysis..Puja i was waiting for your review
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago

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