Episode 157 Discussion: 31st Dec 2012 - Page 3

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorica

My small contribution. It was made in a hurry. But, I'll do one that will show their relationship over time.
I think to make one that would be called: All Dipali's faces. But I myself do not like to watch her, and I suspect neither do you.


Zorica,
I liked the pic very much.

To answer your question there, Padmini answered it as "the relationship of trust, respect and purity." 😛

However, in the mangalsutra scene, Shamsher was so lovingly looking at Padmini when she fumbles a bit to tie it around her neck. A man who loves her daughters as his own, why wouldn't he love her when she takes care of him so much. But just that he is her knight in shining armour and his milady happens to be a married woman. All that is left for him to do it just lay his life down for her and in return never ask anything. That's his gentleman's promise to his milady, one who is not a lady in distress, but a strong lady who chose to save her kids from her evil husband without anyone's help and expecting no help (I guess! I have not watched the earlier episodes).

The picture here is so lovely with Padmini and Shamsher looking young and beautiful. It altogether seems a parallel love story there. I did not for once see it as MEIEJ with RK-MB as protagonists. Padmini with that open hair looks so beautiful.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I'm getting one niggling - okay, nearly petrifying actually - concern.
Does Madhu think RK only wants to get away from the star life?
Does she expect RK to have *Radha* - with or without the other three leeches - as part of RK's life even afterward?
Radha is not Padmini to adjust. She likes not just comfort but luxury.
She likes playing the grand lady.
And even more than that, she likes never having to *acknowledge* just how much she owes her son - not just for providing for her second family, but also for financing the grand gestures *she* likes to make even for occassions he has no liking for.
RK's money spent in Radha's style.🤢
She saw that Madhu asked her son to feed her the first piece of cake, and yet in speaking of the occassion, she managed to sound as if RK did so of his own volition.
How many other things about her son are a similar tale of her self-delusion to foster her image of herself as a good mother?
I'm willing to bet that from Mohan Kundra's death onwards, every tale Radha has told Madhu about Rishabh is in the same vein as 'the first piece of cake to share his success'.
And Madhu's shrewdness *is* emerging😳, but not in any interaction with Radha. There she is as naive and gullible as ever.
How badly will Radha end up hurting RK before Madhu stops the 'Maa-bhajan'?
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Btw ...On Story telling technique...

These days I am liking the dialogues embedded with "In dino" or "Pichle kuch dino mein" or "Us din"...

  • This will help MEIEJ pick up on time story wise... After Karwa Chauth ...with these phrases in between, the timeline is being taken forward.
  • and also let us get into a mind-set that RK and Madhu actually are spending time together; without any special events, and hence giving them that timeframe which makes their relationship growing. It is needed for the couple to stabilize.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Leela,

Read your post re Radha-the thorn for Rishbala Rose. Your concern is genuine.

Let me tell you. I think it is a Bubble to burst soon between Madhu and Radha.

  • Madhu has already a Trishna thorn to deal with which is also making RK weak as he is unable to use his acid tongue owing to him having to respect his wife's relations.
  • Madhu now will develop a Radha thorn to deal with , where in here again she will herself make it weaker both for her and RK, to not use the acid tongue.
Redemption points for us:
  1. RK has acid tongue
  2. Madhu has taunting tongue
  3. RK can hear bad for himself, but never for his wife. He kept quiet before Trishna for his own reason of guilt driven fixing her career and that he has been the cause of Trishna's animosity towards Madhu. A day will come when, if RK hears Trishna lashing just Madhu, he will not be able to keep quiet.
  4. Madhu can hear bad for herself, but never for her husband.

Catalytic actions :
There should be an undercurrent antagonistic fatal interventions to disrupt Rishbala life together.
  • When in Nafrat stage, Radha was the catalyst to bring them together. Now when the love birds want to fly away, she will become the catalyst to fail their plan of going away.
  • Trishna is already being the catalyst for Balraj entry and all that production paraphernalia.

I always keep my patience around the dramatic elements needed to run the story. So as long as they keep justifying the twists, I am okay with these pains induced. Pains means antagonism introduced towards protagonist efforts.

Why it is so convincing is because, Rishbala characters are flawed and not perfect. They have individual weakness inspite of larger goodness in them and also their love story as a plot requirement is flawed with the sacrifice and insecurity sword hanging over them.

Okay...I am hitting bed now.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Leela,


Read your post re Radha-the thorn for Rishbala Rose. Your concern is genuine.

Let me tell you. I think it is a Bubble to burst soon between Madhu and Radha.

  • Madhu has already a Trishna thorn to deal with which is also making RK weak as he is unable to use his acid tongue owing to him having to respect his wife's intentions.
  • Madhu now will develop a Radha thorn to deal with , where in here again she will herself make it weaker for her and RK, to not use the acid tongue.
Redemption points for us:
    RK has acid tongue Madhu has taunting tongue RK can hear bad for himself, but never for his wife. He kept quiet before Trishna for his own reason of guilt driven fixing her career and that he has been the cause of Trishna's animosity towards Madhu. A day will come when, if RK hears Trishna lashing just Madhu, he will not be able to keep quiet.
  1. Madhu can hear bad for herself, but never for her husband.

Catalytic actions :
There should be an undercurrent antagonistic fatal interventions to disrupt Rishbala life together.
  • When in Nafrat stage, Radha was the catalyst to bring them together. Now when the love birds want to fly away, she will become the catalyst to fail their plan of going away.
  • Trishna is already being the catalyst for Balraj entry and all that production paraphernalia.

I always keep my patience around the dramatic elements needed to run the story. So as long as they keep justifying the twists, I am okay with these pains induced. Pains means antagonism introduced towards protagonist efforts.

Why it is so convincing is because, Rishbala characters are flawed and not perfect. They have individual weakness inspite of larger goodness in them and also their love story as a plot requirement is flawed with the sacrifice and insecurity sword hanging over them.

Okay...I am hitting bed now.

Thanks for the response at length, Shri.⭐️
Get some rest.😊 Bye for now, and see you later.😃
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: leelaa9

I'm getting one niggling - okay, nearly petrifying actually - concern.
Does Madhu think RK only wants to get away from the star life?
Does she expect RK to have *Radha* - with or without the other three leeches - as part of RK's life even afterward?
Radha is not Padmini to adjust. She likes not just comfort but luxury.
She likes playing the grand lady.
And even more than that, she likes never having to *acknowledge* just how much she owes her son - not just for providing for her second family, but also for financing the grand gestures *she* likes to make even for occassions he has no liking for.
RK's money spent in Radha's style.🤢
She saw that Madhu asked her son to feed her the first piece of cake, and yet in speaking of the occassion, she managed to sound as if RK did so of his own volition.
How many other things about her son are a similar tale of her self-delusion to foster her image of herself as a good mother?
I'm willing to bet that from Mohan Kundra's death onwards, every tale Radha has told Madhu about Rishabh is in the same vein as 'the first piece of cake to share his success'.
And Madhu's shrewdness *is* emerging😳, but not in any interaction with Radha. There she is as naive and gullible as ever.
How badly will Radha end up hurting RK before Madhu stops the 'Maa-bhajan'?



Was thinking about that whole Radha-Madhu-Dips interaction yesterday, something seemed so wrong apart from the obvious...ie:Radha's self indulgent dialogues totally cut off from reality.
It just struck me...Radha is busy discussing her reports with Dipali. Madhu walks in, tells her she's leaving, notices her with her reports and asks her about them. It is then that Radha tells her RK has arranged for her to see a specialist. It does not strike her to inform Madhu of her own accord, when all along it is Madhu who has brought them closer, as she herself keeps saying. Forget the fact that she's discussing the whole thing with Dipali, she doesn't even think it necessary to include Madhu in the process when she walks in on them??
It is petrifying...the more I see the lovelorn couple dreaming, the more I'm getting nervous for them.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Shridevi,

I'm sorry you did not watch the show from the beginning. Is very well done. At the very beginning it was clear that this would be a good show. Here we are able to meet first with the image of Balraj, but also to understand how strong bonds connect Padmini and the children. Traumatic experience for her and Trishna, but she was lucky to meet Malik even while Madhu is born. RK had the opportunity to see what the viewers saw at the very beginning in terms of their relationship, and that is a great understanding, respect and mutual concern. Malik has always acted with Padmini as she is of special value, like it was made of glass or porcelain, realizing that Padmini is essentially gentle woman (but fight like a lioness for her children). He acted shy, but always protective.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I call this picture: "Another page in our life"


Something else concerns me. I think RK and Madhu will not go anywhere, but it will be a big twist!? 😕
Edited by zorica - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

Index of December Episodes


Episode No Date Link Tracks Highlights
137 3rd Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3324911/episode-137-discussion-3rd-dec-2012 Karva Chauth Track Watchmani aur Vakalat kar rahaa hoon Bhabhiji ki
Says Who ? Says Bittuji, Our hero, our Colors GPA Chaheta award winner !

138 4th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3326902/episode-138-discussion-4th-dec-2012
Karva Chauth Track Madhu: Tum Aa Gaye ? Tum Aaye. Thanks RK.
RK: Yahi Ishq ki Marzi Hai , Yahi Rabb ki Marzi hai

139 5th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3328878/episode-139-discussion-5th-dec-2012 Karva Chauth Track RK Tum Paagal Ho! Biwi Tum Bachi Ho!

140 6th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3330734/episode-140-discussion-6th-dec-2012 Karva Chauth Track Madhu Marriage per My rules, But this is about My Love for you RK

141 7th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3332678/episode-141-discussion-7th-dec-2012 Karva Chauth Track Making upto to Biwi. Let's celebrate Karva Chauth RK style in Natraj Studio.

142 10th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3336953/episode-142-discussion-10th-dec-2012 Rishbala Love Confession Track Excited Madhu and Spellbound RK

143 11th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3338849/episode-143-discussion-11th-dec-2012 Rishbala Love Confession Track,
Trishna Curse, Dipali Plan to foil Rishbala Love
The Nagging and Dogging Baggage Needs to be Burned -1

144 12th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3340477/episode-144-discussion-12th-dec-2012 Rishbala Love Confession Track,
RK Insecurities, Dipali Plan to foil Rishbala Love
The Nagging and Dogging Baggage Needs to be Burned -2

145 13th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3342240/episode-145-discussion-13th-dec-2012 Rishbala Love Confession Track Madhu: Mujhe chot pahunchane main Mazaa aata hai na Tumhe
RK: Pagalon ki tarah pyaar karta hoon main Tumhe

146 14th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3343987/episode-146-discussion-14th-dec-2012 Rishbala Love Confession Track, Let's Leave the stardom Track,Test of Love Theme, RK Insecurities, Madhu's Relationship Issues and promises

Test of Love - Madhu, Do you love RK or Rishabh ? Madhu Fails

147 17th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3347858/episode-147-discussion-17th-dec-2012 RK's Self-Destructive Mode at Madhu failing him in his Love Test, Trishna Curse & Madhu's Issues revelation to RK

Bamboozled: Man Proposes God Disposes

148 18th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3349661/episode-148-discussion-18th-dec-2012 Let's Leave the stardom Track, Let's fix our families before fixing ourselves in a saat-phera marriage Track, RK-Radha Reconciliation Track

Let's fix our families before fixing ourselves in a saat-phera marriage

149 19th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3351396/episode-149-discussion-19th-dec-2012 Fixing Madhu's Broken Family of Padmini, Shamsher and Trishna,
Balraj-Re-Entry,RK-Radha Reconciliation Track

Madhu bani Seamstress and RK bana Mechanic

150 20th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3353097/episode-150-discussion-20th-dec-2012 Balraj-Re-Entry
Trishna Movie Launch Track
Enter BSC ! Bhagwan Shaitan Choudhary

151 21st Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3354970/episode-151-discussion-21st-dec-2012 Madhu meets Balraj, Madhu-Shamsher patch-up, Balraj-moving on but caught in his past Sarson ka saag with Paneer - Tera Mujhse Hai Pahle Ka Naata Koi

152 24th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3359097/episode-152-discussion-24th-dec-2012 Trishna Movie Launch Track, Let's Leave the stardom Track,RK's 5th Anniversary Party in Film World Time to let go ! & Sarson ka saag with Paneer - Aakhir Maine Khilwa hi diya

153 25th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3360780/episode-153-discussion-25th-dec-2012 Let's Leave the stardom Track, RK's Love for Cinema, Padmini-Shamsher Marriage Track, RK-Radha Reconciliation Track, RK-Dipali Equation

RK's 5th Anniversary in Film Industry Celebration
154 26th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3362414/episode-154-discussion-26th-dec-2012 Balraj Bane Producer,Padmini-Shamsher Marriage Track, Rishbala Fight, Rittuji Relationship Paagal Ballu aur RK ki Bachchi Biwi!! - the woes of a Married Man

155 27th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/viraasat/336434/amar-upadhyay2 Trishna banne Chali Heroine Track, RK-Radha Reconciliation Track, Padmini-Shamsher Marriage Track, Rittuji Relationship

Ain't I smart ? Everyone behaved smartly !
156 28th Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3366027/episode-156-discussion-28th-dec-2012 Rishbala patch-up,
Let's Leave the stardom Track, RK-Dipali Equation Fix Track

"Why do I want to leave everything Behind?"
157 31st Dec 2012 https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3370436/episode-157-discussion-31st-dec-2012 RK-Dipali Equation Fix Track, Padmini-Shamsher Marriage Track, RK-Radha Reconciliation Track, Trishna recognizes Balraj

The Past needs to be burnt for The Future to be bright

Superb compiling, Shri.⭐️ Thanks.😊

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