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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

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Don't take debates so seriously. I'm debating your viewpoints, not you as a whole. You can ask Ajnabee. She being religious, we disagree on pretty much everything. But my acceptance of homosexuality and her rejection of it doesn't bother either of us one bit.



No, I am not. But I am counter-arguing. Shouldn't I? Unless your idea of debate is just a one-sided balderdash. Yeah, it's a different thing that you've formed an opinion of me as a person you might not want to be friends with. Sorry that I have bothered you with this whole tai thing.

I wish you all the best.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: BossB



And you don't qualify for a debate, let alone arguing long posts, in the first place! Come up with a better idea of articulating your points.

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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Xaffron-



No, I am not. But I am counter-arguing. Shouldn't I? Unless your idea of debate is just a one-sided balderdash. Yeah, it's a different thing that you've formed an opinion of me as a person you might not want to be friends with. Sorry that I have bothered you with this whole tai thing.

I wish you all the best.



Damn! I thought you were being agitated and tried burying the hatchet with white flag, and you take it to mean completely different. 😕

You need to get over your male menses. No hard feelings from my side. I'll still be the same person when you come around and stop taking disagreements as the end of the world. Even the best of friends are bound to engage in piss taking matches over issues they are passionate about. That doesn't make the friendship any less. It just means people view the world differently.


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Posted: 12 years ago
Hades

When can I see some girl on girl action with you and Chandu? 😈
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


Damn! I thought you were being agitated and tried burying the hatchet with white flag, and you take it to mean completely different. 😕

You need to get over your male menses. No hard feelings from my side. I'll still be the same person when you come around and stop taking disagreements as the end of the world. Even the best of friends are bound to engage in piss taking matches over issues they are passionate about. That doesn't make the friendship any less. It just means people view the world differently.




I beg your pardon!

What male menses are you talking about?

The original post asked for a public opinion over what's wrong in being a lesbian (a homosexual), to which I replied with a justification which I felt was best, to which you refuted with a claim. You then asked me to keep things to myself and not pose in an opinion. Why wouldn't I, was my remark on that! I again counter-argued, which you decided on taking personally by bringing in Ajnu's angle and comparing our debate styles. I don't live and argue by people's standards. I am an individual who will pose in an opinion.

Are you not reading what you're up to, or do I qualify for one of those people who are always on the receiving end of your below-the-belt comments? 🤓


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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: return_to_hades


The story of Lot comes in all three Abrahamic religions. I've addressed questions over this story in previous posts as well.

Reflect on the passage you cited: Would it have been OK to approach women in lust instead? Would it have been OK for Lot to offer his daughters to the people? Would it have been OK for the people to violate Lot's daughters.

The original Hebrew account of Lot does not ask the people of Sodom why the choose men over women. It asks the people of Sodom why they wish to abuse the angels. The version you site is in later modified editions. In my opinion the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about God condemning sexual abuse and unwanted sexual advances. Should one narrowly interpret the passages to be condemning homosexuality, then one implicitly accepts that it is OK to rape women then.


I am responding from the point of view of Islam strictly limited to what I understand. Firstly the word lust here is not exactly what lust is perceived as in today's world. DESIRE would be a more apt word when we see the actual Arabic word. (refer http://quran.com/27/55-58)
Hetrosexuals lust/desire the opposite sex and according to Islam the correct way to achieve this is marriage.

We need to understand that in translation sometimes the gist of the message is lost. This story of Lut is used is to demonstrate Islam's disapproval of rape and homosexuality.
When he offered his daughters it was for marriage and not for violation as you mentioned. The message being conveyed here is that the best effort was made to make the people of Sodom and Gomorrah realize that they are on the wrong path and chance was given to them to redeem themselves.
When prophet Ibrahim offered his son for sacrifice does not mean that everyone has to sacrifice their kids or that it is justified, its just a point in reference to convey that the Almighty is supreme and when he commands we should be prepared to let go even our most preciously prized possessions. Similarly when Lut offered his daughters for marriage that dosent mean daughters need to be offered but symbolizes the the highest level of chance for redemption being offered to the extent that the prophet of the time is offering his daughter for "marriage".
I cant comment on hebrew version as I believe Islamic version is correct and Quran is the only book that is unchanged since the past 14 centuries and there have been no additions, subtractions or editions of Original Arabic Quran. Translations do differ since the choice of words and sentences used by the translators differ. Hence it is always recommended the best way is to learn Arabic.

Would really love to know what is your religion since you go around giving your POV on all religions without acknowledging your own. So if you are debating from a religious POV it would be fair if we know which religion we follow. For the record if its not clear enough already I follow Islam.

Coming back to homosexuality even from scientific point of view it is a health risk.
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Posted: 12 years ago
i'll just sneak in and say nothing wrong in being one unless someone is misled.
I have seen some of the videos and it didnt look harmful to any party,in fact they seemed to derive ultimate pleasure😲...so not a place for others to be the party poopers🤢
sorry didnt read the long debates here😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
I love lesbians just my opinion as a man... 😃 dont slate me for it... 😆
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: -Xaffron-



The original post asked for a public opinion over what's wrong in being a lesbian (a homosexual), to which I replied with a justification which I felt was best, to which you refuted with a claim. You then asked me to keep things to myself and not pose in an opinion. Why wouldn't I, was my remark on that! I again counter-argued, which you decided on taking personally by bringing in Ajnu's angle and comparing our debate styles. I don't live and argue by people's standards. I am an individual who will pose in an opinion.

Are you not reading what you're up to, or do I qualify for one of those people who are always on the receiving end of your below-the-belt comments? 🤓




I didn't say not to post an opinion. I objected to passing the opinion as fact.

Your posts came across more "angry & agitated" rather than merely "debating". I'm sorry if my perception was off. That is why I tried to make a white flag post.

I apologize both to you and Ajnu for bringing her name up. It was merely to illustrate that two people can have diametrically opposite views on a subject and still be friends. And that was because I perceived you be "angry and agitated".

You can go ahead and continue to assume what you wish. I showed a white flag when I thought I had agitated someone. I'm not making any below the belt comments or arguments. If you want to read something sinister or throw a hissy fit over a simple misunderstanding, that is your prerogative.
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Posted: 12 years ago
This is what I don't understand about you, RTH. Hissy fits? Agitated? All these emotions holding a negative connotations are always thrown at me by you. I still manage to let go of them humorously. Man, you really have a very poor perception of me, to say the least. Hmmm.. It's alright. It just goes on. I am used to it now.

No worries. I can't change what people think of me, anyway. I am as calm as I am, sitting behind my screen and writing this to you. It's all good. No worries and misgivings on my side either.

You take care, RTH. 😊

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