Episode 134 Discussion: 28th Nov 2012

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Episode 134 Discussion: 28th Nov 2012


Welcome to the Episode discussion thread which we call as Viewer's and Reader's Respite. That's very apt, don't you think ? 😉. And that proves our objective.

Objective behind the thread is
  1. It helps in keeping the forum clean without much litter. People just need to fall in a habit.
  2. We can have it like breathers at first followed by analysis.
  3. It also helps like-minded souls and pals bond and gel together to drop in their thoughts for themselves as breathers and for their friends as a peep into the episode and for others to post their reviews.
  4. And those from different time-zones, who do not get to watch the episode at this time of telecast (Indian 8:30 PM), without any worry to trace or keep track of all their buddy's posts, they can come here, read with leisure and later post their analysis after watching it from their Time zones.

For those who cannot watch can have the Live/Written Updates.
Today's LU from : Armu4eva
  • There are various other threads all over the forum. Please check out those as well. This is just one choice out of so many.
  • Readers are encouraged to post links of other members posts which had been "delightful read" towards analysis of episodic event/s or character analysis. It becomes an easy navigation in the myriad of posts and pages and can easily be overlooked.
  • The link to present day ED thread is always provided in the previous one discussed.Those who participated in previous thread can go to my posts and check the previous thread to get access to new link.
  • The link to Previous Episode thread if anyone wants to trace and post/thoughts there. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/madhubala-ek-ishq-ek-junoon/3313155/episode-133-discussion-27th-nov-2012


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Episode 134 Discussion -EOD summary


Madhu - Meri Mehndi, Mere Sote hue Pati, Meri Maa ki Sargi, Mere jaage hue pati

Episode events:
Beautiful Madhu-Bittuji interaction, Rishbala interaction, Madhu's soliloquy during night when in their bedroom. Other than that events are Madhu is struggling to get sargi on the sly, for which she has to go through the infamous "Sargi rescued from Trashbin" and "sargi toxicated(mildly) by Dipzy" tracks.


Most of the thread has expressed displeasure at Madhu being easy with picking up a sargi from the trashbin. I will leave aside those posts as far as episode review is concerned, as in all objectivity they are besides the point.


Episode reviews
Page 1 - Manonids, apolloartemis, Soundarya
Page 2 - SD
Page 3 - surabi
Page 5 - himbin, savz_uniqueblis , Siri
Page 6 - savz_uniqueblis, kt25
Page 7 - PreetD
Page 13 - Charu


Karva chouth track and its relevance to Madhu and the future storyline
Page 8 - SD
Page 9 - soundarya

Telly Tadka review - http://www.telly tadka.net/tellywood-bytes/analysis-and-symbolism/karva-chuath-drama-heats-upmadhubala-eiej/

What is Sargi ? And why is it important ?

Sargi
Sargi and Baya are the two most important gifting items, as without them the festival of Karva chauth is incomplete. These gift items are very traditional and are supposed to bring good luck in the lives of the married couple. It is Mother-in-laws who gift 'sargi' for their daughter-in-laws. This 'sargi' is a collection of sumptuous food consists of various types of sweetmeats and sometime clothes. 'Sargi' is given to the married woman so that she can eat them before sunrise, as the fast starts before sunrise and ends only after worshiping the moon at night. It is a tough fast, as the women do not take any food or water.


Baya
In the afternoon, mothers of newly wed girls gift 'Baya' to the parents of their son-in-law. This Baya contains few Mathris, Almonds and some gifts. This gift pack should reach the girl's house before evening. A small pooja to Gaura Ma or goddess Parvati is performed. Married women sit around Gaura ma and pray to her for the well being and long life of their husbands. A small pitcher or Karva with some water is placed in the center. While the story is being narrated, ladies circulate their Baya thalis. Apart from traditional gifts, nowadays there is a norm of showering various designers clothes, bindies and jeweleries, specially to a newly wed woman.

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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I would not rate the episode since they are just dragging drama element in KC track with both the leads on break for few days. Bittu G and Madhu bonding is going awesome day by day 😊'.Bittu G dialogue that Madhu is female version of RK was moment of the day for me 😛 it's a kind of acknowledgment that Madhu deserves to be Mrs RK. ''Rest Sargi drama could have been reduced but makers are hell bent on showing it 🥱''.Damn '.Madhu picking Sargi from DUSTBIN🤢 '..ahhh they could have easily dumped the Sargi somewhere else '.why DUSTBIN !!!!!!!!!!😡...kher '.Dips mixing it with something unfit for Madhu is pathetic '..now Madhu will be all the more pained keeping the fast and with RK lashing out her saying ..Bhuke mar jaoge ( in promo)'makes me think that Madhu will seriously become ill before he breaks her fast.

Precap is wow ...typical hubby-wifey moment 😳 I prefer cherishing such moments instead of passing critical views .

Aww moment ...😳 Madhu trying to keep RK's head straight on couch ...and showing him Mehandi 😳..it was adorable to see her like this ...



PS: My thoughts on TC article ( in case its true):

1. Since VD is not comfortable doing intimate scenes, so are makers trying to pull in consummation track before his real marriage ?😆 ( its just for fun)

2. May be makers want to speed up full wedding...so that they can ease off both RK-MB during VD's marriage break next month by packing them off for some outdoor shoot or honeymoon.😆

Edited by Manonids - 12 years ago
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Today's ep I found - quite frankly - unbearable except for the scenes featuring RK. Because those scenes *didn't* feature Dipali, Radha or Madhu-eating-food-out-of-a-dustbin.
I understand that the last of the three *could* be considered pyaar-mey-deewaangi. But I don't see it even remotely that way.
When Madhu had told Bittuji that she was worried not about sargi but about getting jewelry from her husband, I was immensely pleased that the girl was clear, focussed and resolved on what she had decided on.
But yesterday her harping on to Dips about 'Maa naaraaz', 'Maa this', 'Maa that' knocked me for a loop. I had thought that the scene would be her standing up to Dips, not almost as much standing up for 'maa'.
And today, Madhu was willing to eat sargi from a discarded packet out of the dustbin so that it would be from 'Maa'?
Is her focus on RK or divided between him and Radha?
He considers Radha a mother unfit to be called such, and has told his wife that both Radha and Dipali have grieved him to an extent that he still bears the wounds.
Madhu has realized that she loves RK. So her reaction as a woman in love is to deliberately smother with respectful worship one or both of the two women who hurt him?
It would have been loyal to the husband she is keeping the karvachauth fast for if she were to consider his mother dead, and ask Bittuji to arrange for sargi in his capacity as her jeth - the only relationship her husband ever told her to observe.
Instead, every one of the four people RK does not want to have anything to do with, Madhu is giving an inch and then a mile so they may properly damage her - and by association - her husband's dignity.
Madhu's emotions are deep, pure and heartfelt. But she is so determined to follow the traditions and rituals to the letter that she is discounting the points on which doing so would *not* honour her husband but rather leave him open to feeling deprioritized by Madhu in favour of his mother.
People he has stated to be unfit for respect, he is having to speak to more and more frequently in defence of his wife because she *won't* speak up.
Everything was getting a bit too much, but one understands that Madhu needs time to stop being so softhearted and respectful, and become a better judge of character and more firm in dealing with the freeloaders 'relatives'.
But eating sargi out of the dustbin just so that she fulfills the technicality of having it be something prepared by her mother-in-law?
Does she truly not understand that having Radha involved in her first Karvachauth will taint it even worse for RK if he ever finds out?
That woman is his first reason for despising the festival, and he *told* Madhu this.
So, despite knowing that, Madhu discounts her husband's feelings simply so she has the satisfaction of having completed every technicality of a festival that is supposed to be focussed on her husband.
Do women living estranged from their mothers-in-law not observe karvachauth?
Radha's mere presence in RK's vicinity tends to rub salt in every wound she has caused. And yet he endures that.
But Madhu - who has so often shown the strength to follow rituals and traditions quite apart from the letter, and considers herself *no less married* for having had 4 feres instead of 7 and no sindoor - considered that the karvachauth would be complete only if the sargi were from her saas?
This was not determination or resolve. It was an appalling amount of self-denigration to play up the 'good bahu' angle.
Until today, those four leeches mistreated, denigrated and slighted Madhu.
But today, for no reason that could be adequate, Madhu denigrated herself to an appalling level, not for love but for a ritual.
With the (incorrect) evidence that her 'naaraaz maa' had discarded the sargi rather than leave any for her bahu's first karvachauth, Madhu lowered herself to get that discarded food out of the dustbin and eat it. Out of the frigging dustbin?
What? Are the CVs planning to have a post-karvachauth track of analyzing why Madhu fell ill, and the needle of supicion heading for Dipali with or without a detour onto Radha?
Is that what will get Dips thrown out of the house?
And if so, could all that not have been accomplished just as effectively without the food going into the dustbin and then back into a kitchen utensil for consuming?
What the heck, CVs? Food from a discarded packet out of a dustbin?
Edited by leelaa9 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Yeh kya huya, kaise huya, kab huya, kyun huya, jab huya, tab huya, ho, choddo yeh na socho..

RK ke baal raat to raat gaayab??? in house stylist was applying mehndi, so then?? that's why I dedicate this song to RK.

Chodo, yeh na socho, because he looked so dishy😉, does'nt matter.

BUT CVS, 😡 bloopers on two consecutive episodes, do you think we are fools???

WIll be back with my episode summary, I had to get this out of my system.
😆
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ok episode, nothing too fantastic, but nessesary to keep general audience happy, which keeps the show on air, which makes me happy, so no complaints from me.
Dustbin scene: the words fool for love kept running through me head...but Madhu is Madhu...I already knew she would do crazy things for RK. After this, entering Bollywood should be a piece of cake.😉
I forgot that the TC articles are incredibly inaccurate at times. I hope the ILU part of inaccurate atleast. That said, atleast the article said that RK will complete the marriage, which should put our revenge conspiracy theorists to rest. I hope.
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Sorry to spam on the first page shri that too with a negative post.

I can't take it anymore guys. This sargi nonsense is starting to get to me.

First it was the modak drama and now sargi drama.

4 minutes of Hotty in a 20 minute drama. Really CV"s.?😡

Is there even anything worthwhile to talk about from today's episode?

And now I hear RK remarries? Really CV's? You couldn't even wait a year to butcher him haven't you?

Sorry guys I for one have always been against remarraige that too so soon. Once they confess what is left to see?

Urgh.. Could this day get any worse?

ETA: Oh wait it just got worse..

So it's not only remarriage but a confession that too from RK's side.

Wow. 👏

Great going cv's.. Thank you for getting rid of my obsession with the show in just 3 months.

Will stick around till RK confesses and before he starts acting an idiot I'll be done.
Edited by Siri22 - 12 years ago
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Today's episode was a time pass episode, completely.

Mittu scenes- Bittuji calls Madhu the female version of RK post her verbal duel with Dipali. Supports her completely to get her sargi the next morning...except that.😡.grr..will move onto sargi later.

Most boring scene of the week, (and this is what is called filler) - sargi scene at dining table...waste of time completely.

Madhu's mehndi - At the risk of repeating what is being said all over the forum, madhu's scene at RK's bed / couch was endearing, the way she showed her mehndi to him, her smile was so transparent and happy, touched his cheek & left a small blob of mehndi!

Madhu's Sargi - To continue from above, sargi from the dustbin??!! not done. For this we need a bahut zaroori explanation from Dipali about why she uses ziplock, and then Madhu discovers it, declares it clean because it has been conveniently packed. Talk about garbage segregation😡. Madhu is still in her excitable state, she probably thinks RK will swoon with love, poor thing.

However, the marriage track is coming up, which means he does break her fast eventually, that is a relief to me.

Rishbala - Nothing khaas, maybe tomorrow, it is the calm before the storm.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Re. Madhu's love-confession and RK deciding to complete 7 fere with her, maybe RK will express his feelings through wishing to complete the wedding rituals rather than a verbal declaration of love. He has always been the sort where actions speak louder than words, dhaasu dialogues notwithstanding.
But after today's appallingly nonsensical dustbin scene, I'll accept even the most uncharacterisitic romanticism from RK if it means that we are spared having to endure Radha and Dipali eating up screentime in turn like it's a multi-course meal for just the two of them.
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Nonsense this is!

Eating sargi from trash? Drag festival.

I was reading an article in Times yesterday and today I watched this.

Anybody is interested read this.

http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/O-zone/entry/tv-serials-prefer-religion-ignore-culture


Shri! need your review to get some sense out of this crap episode .






Edited by Munni_123 - 12 years ago

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