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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Sanchayita,

I am truly delighted and flattered by the degree of interest with which you have received my post, and I am sure you are going to have a lot of fun looking out for the finer points in many of the future Arjun episodes.

Beside this aspect, you know, after watching a dozen of them, what struck me was the dark side of life and relationships that the series often brings out, going beyond the usual greed or jealousy.

The exchange murders episode (No.9). about a rich businessman and a waiter who commit each other's murders, was relatively straightforward and clearly based on the Hitchcock classic film Strangers on a Train.

But there was also a dishonourable love that clashes with the normal protectiveness of maternal love, as in the dead stockbroker story, where the mother's apparent readiness to let her own daughter be accused of the murder she had committed was so shocking. It was a similar clash in the case of the mute witness, the boy who idolizes Eagleman, only there it is the opposite, for the mother is ready to assume the guilt for what her son has done, for she holds herself morally responsible for it. In both cases, the immoral behaviour of the mother ruins a whole family.

The shocking kinnara human sacrifice story is also rooted in a terrible alienation from society, and in the murder by peanuts (No.3), it is revenge for the unbearable loss of a beloved sister. No wonder Arjun, whose own life has been twisted beyond repair by a brutal criminal, empathises with the younger sister, even if she has murdered two persons in cold blood.

It is in this plumbing of the dark corners of the human psyche that Arjun, for me, stands out. It is not just a gung ho, cops and robbers serial, with macho cops strutting around punching people. I hope it stays that way.

And as for Rathore, your assessment is spot on. It is absolutely not necessary to be exceptional to be regarded as a good cop. Moreover, to be the kind of good chief that Rathore is, what is needed is the ability to get the best out of each team member, to carry them all with him, and stand up for them vis a vis the superiors when necessary. All of which Rathore takes care of perfectly.

Lastly, as you enjoy detailed analysis, if you have the time, you might like to take a look at the only 2 of the kind I had done earlier, the second a month ago. These were

1)No. 15 ; about the swimming pool murder (at

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3220402

2) No.16, the case of the dead stockbroker (at http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229686).

I would welcome your comments.

Shyamala Aunty


I m definitely gonna go through d links

wold luv to read ur POV as well

Purva
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52
My dear Sanchayita,

I am pleased and intrigued to see that you have now identified the real reason for your liking Arjun, going beyond the largely hypothetical romance between Arjun and Riya, which is of course a non-starter now.

I wonder if you realise the great advantage this gives you over the majority of the forum, who are so deeply affected by Riya's death that they probably cannot enjoy Arjun any more. That is a great pity, for it is a very good show of its kind and is getting better by the week. You too must be disappointed and upset by Riya's death, as I was myself, which is why I wrote a Requiem to Riya Mukherjee criticising it. But you have a clear interest in what should be the core of the series, the detection and punishment of crime. So you will be able to carry on very nicely.

I missed out on the 3rd distorted version of maternal love (or the lack of it) in episode 2, and I am glad you have flagged that too. It can be anywhere, not just in Rajasthan as shown, there are cases among NRI families too. There might well be such cases among traditional Italian families as well.

I am glad you agree with me that it is the varying motivations that are so fascinating, and it is these dark and distorted shades in the characters, as also the bright and reassuring ones, that make them seem real, and not like cardboard cut-outs.

I have got a bit delayed with my take on both of this week's episodes, but I hope to get it out tomorrow. Meanwhile, think about Arjun's main motivation for chasing down Hiten Saxena so relentlessly. It is not just a passion for fighting crime, or an inbuilt bulldog tenacity. I think it is really because he feels very guilty that after Roshni, and then Riya, Sandhya is the third woman whose life he has failed to save in a crisis. It is not really his fault, for Sandhya dies within hours of talking to him at the party, but that is what he says to the rest of the team Main uske liye kuch bhi nahin kar saka. He wants to be free of this awful burden of guilt, and that is why, in the end, he walks off with a light tread.

More later.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: SanchayitaM



] I will go through the above provided links of analyzation as soon as possible. I am too glad that you agree with me on the Rathore matter.

And till now I cannot get that why am I so interested in this crime-thriller show Arjun. I havenot thought with so much depth as you did, but I am just amazed to know and make out the relationships and their different types of mentalities being in same relationship, as showcased in the mute-evidence case and stock-broker murder case. And even in Honour killing episode, set in the backdrop of Rajputana customs. The mother killed her daughter ruthlessly only to protect herself from dishonour in her community. Motherly affections were blown away by stigma of shame. A very cruel side of human nature was reflected because of the haunting of disgrace. This show has visualised three avatars of mothers. After going through your column I think maybe the same things worked out for me.

To be honest, the pair ArHea and Shaleen are also the reason till an extent. But, the truth is that the show had already attracted me before the pair and Shaleen could affect me. So, I must agree that this show has something in it which has gripped me badly, and that was sorrowfully beyond my knowledge.

And now I strongly believe the points you marked out are the reasons behind my liking for the show. And I will request you to pen down an analysation for every episode if possible. Because its always my pleasure to hear from you. Thanks.



Originally posted by sashashyam

My dear Sanchayita,

I am truly delighted and flattered by the degree of interest with which you have received my post, and I am sure you are going to have a lot of fun looking out for the finer points in many of the future Arjun episodes.

Beside this aspect, you know, after watching a dozen of them, what struck me was the dark side of life and relationships that the series often brings out, going beyond the usual greed or jealousy.

The exchange murders episode (No.9). about a rich businessman and a waiter who commit each other's murders, was relatively straightforward and clearly based on the Hitchcock classic film Strangers on a Train.

But there was also a dishonourable love that clashes with the normal protectiveness of maternal love, as in the dead stockbroker story, where the mother's apparent readiness to let her own daughter be accused of the murder she had committed was so shocking. It was a similar clash in the case of the mute witness, the boy who idolizes Eagleman, only there it is the opposite, for the mother is ready to assume the guilt for what her son has done, for she holds herself morally responsible for it. In both cases, the immoral behaviour of the mother ruins a whole family.

The shocking kinnara human sacrifice story is also rooted in a terrible alienation from society, and in the murder by peanuts (No.3), it is revenge for the unbearable loss of a beloved sister. No wonder Arjun, whose own life has been twisted beyond repair by a brutal criminal, empathises with the younger sister, even if she has murdered two persons in cold blood.

It is in this plumbing of the dark corners of the human psyche that Arjun, for me, stands out. It is not just a gung ho, cops and robbers serial, with macho cops strutting around punching people. I hope it stays that way.

And as for Rathore, your assessment is spot on. It is absolutely not necessary to be exceptional to be regarded as a good cop. Moreover, to be the kind of good chief that Rathore is, what is needed is the ability to get the best out of each team member, to carry them all with him, and stand up for them vis a vis the superiors when necessary. All of which Rathore takes care of perfectly.

Lastly, as you enjoy detailed analysis, if you have the time, you might like to take a look at the only 2 of the kind I had done earlier, the second a month ago. These were

1)No. 15 ; about the swimming pool murder (at

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3220402

2) No.16, the case of the dead stockbroker (at http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229686).

I would welcome your comments.

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 13 years ago
#53
My dear Purva,

Now that is a really pretty name, and a nice change from Purvi, which is becoming rather common these days.

I shall look forward to your views on those 2 older posts, and I hope to get the new one, or both of the latest episodes, very soon. As I mentioned earlier, I liked your crisp take on it a lot.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: tani23



I m definitely gonna go through d links

wold luv to read ur POV as well

Purva



Originally posted by: sashashyam

My dear Sanchayita,

I am truly delighted and flattered by the degree of interest with which you have received my post, and I am sure you are going to have a lot of fun looking out for the finer points in many of the future Arjun episodes.

Beside this aspect, you know, after watching a dozen of them, what struck me was the dark side of life and relationships that the series often brings out, going beyond the usual greed or jealousy.

The exchange murders episode (No.9). about a rich businessman and a waiter who commit each other's murders, was relatively straightforward and clearly based on the Hitchcock classic film Strangers on a Train.

But there was also a dishonourable love that clashes with the normal protectiveness of maternal love, as in the dead stockbroker story, where the mother's apparent readiness to let her own daughter be accused of the murder she had committed was so shocking. It was a similar clash in the case of the mute witness, the boy who idolizes Eagleman, only there it is the opposite, for the mother is ready to assume the guilt for what her son has done, for she holds herself morally responsible for it. In both cases, the immoral behaviour of the mother ruins a whole family.

The shocking kinnara human sacrifice story is also rooted in a terrible alienation from society, and in the murder by peanuts (No.3), it is revenge for the unbearable loss of a beloved sister. No wonder Arjun, whose own life has been twisted beyond repair by a brutal criminal, empathises with the younger sister, even if she has murdered two persons in cold blood.

It is in this plumbing of the dark corners of the human psyche that Arjun, for me, stands out. It is not just a gung ho, cops and robbers serial, with macho cops strutting around punching people. I hope it stays that way.

And as for Rathore, your assessment is spot on. It is absolutely not necessary to be exceptional to be regarded as a good cop. Moreover, to be the kind of good chief that Rathore is, what is needed is the ability to get the best out of each team member, to carry them all with him, and stand up for them vis a vis the superiors when necessary. All of which Rathore takes care of perfectly.

Lastly, as you enjoy detailed analysis, if you have the time, you might like to take a look at the only 2 of the kind I had done earlier, the second a month ago. These were

1)No. 15 ; about the swimming pool murder (at

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3220402

2) No.16, the case of the dead stockbroker (at http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3229686).

I would welcome your comments.

Shyamala Aunty

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