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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Shwetha!


Why should I as an audience be worried about what goes behind a show?

What matters to me is what is shown to me on screen.

Aimz is right, this is not the khushi we fell in love with. Why should the lead character of the show have to do comedy or be made a mockery of , when the writers appear clueless as to how to logically change tracks or move tracks even?

Compare the khushi last year to the khushi now, if indeed she suspected Aarav to be Arnav's son, you think this is how she would be reacting?.

She would be pressing the panic button big time - What if Aarav is Arnav's son, what will Arnav do, Does he have feelings for Sheetal still? What will I do should be the thoughts racing through her mind.

If this is what is happening right now, guess what it is not coming through.

Slipping once or twice is okay, but when you slip constantly and raise occasionally, that is just not enough.

Since you are from the PH(You have just informed us that the tracks have been reworked, given us hints to shut up or the show will be closed and slipped in a We the writers in one your post deliberately or accidentally - not sure), please do handle criticism in a mature way.

Believe me, people in the forum would love to talk about what a great show it IS and not what it WAS.

As for Gul, well we were always told it was out and out Gul's baby, creation etc...so now that it is going awry, why wouldn't she be held responsible for the mess. You can't take the bouquets and avoid the brickbats.

As for remembering the previous episodes, believe me pretty much most of us have done that, it is the PH who have to go back and see what Khushi's character was and what the show once was...from the audience POV.

I do agree that it is still one of the better shows on TV right now, have to give you guys that.

If you don't want to see the same rants again and again, well then stop making the same mistakes again and again OR GIVE US something different to rant about, simple.

The audience does not expect you guys to be brilliant on a consistent basis, yes we do DEMAND that you be at least good on a consistent basis, fair demand don't you think?




First of all Shwetha, I am part of the PH or not is what I leave up to u to think coz I am under no obligation to let u KNow who I am.I am not here to prove anything to anyone...IF is a public forum and like you even I can make apposite no say whatever I want.

Secondly be4 jumping the gun read my previous posts...pls I am no one to tell u to shut up..I am just here to logically put across my opinion and what could be th consequences if it...pls go to the previous page and read for urself...

As for khushi's character, last year she wasn't ASR's wife to have anything to do with any of his personal..she was uncomfortable with Lavanaya around them but she never reacted...that is the whole problem that she never reacts for herself.

Now what u are seeing is a diff situation altogether..

Also, no one has asked u to understand how things work behind the camera and u for one are not expected to do that...time and agian it has been mentioned that Guk is ONKY one of the producers and the others you KNIW are IMRC...

Read what I Abel written that if it's IMP to criticize..do that let the makers know whatbu want..but do praise them for the good as well..which is logical


Finally sweet heart, like I said to each is his/her own..the very reason why I r attached to this show so much proves why u r watching it..n yes if u say it is better than other shows then why not support it , if the mappers want a breather for a while , is it wrong, they tried something it didn't get appreciated and they are doing their needful.

Also, FYI the others PH crave two hoots to what the audience thinks..no Matter what happens...

Finally, I think I have tried explaining you the thing very politely, if undontbget the hang of it then I m sorry, i can't help u.

I am not allowed to and do not wish to shre anything henceforth, pls feel free to think whatever u want. Only time and u urself can convince the ardent viewer in you.




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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Shwetha!


Why should I as an audience be worried about what goes behind a show?

What matters to me is what is shown to me on screen.

Aimz is right, this is not the khushi we fell in love with. Why should the lead character of the show have to do comedy or be made a mockery of , when the writers appear clueless as to how to logically change tracks or move tracks even?

Compare the khushi last year to the khushi now, if indeed she suspected Aarav to be Arnav's son, you think this is how she would be reacting?.

She would be pressing the panic button big time - What if Aarav is Arnav's son, what will Arnav do, Does he have feelings for Sheetal still? What will I do should be the thoughts racing through her mind.

If this is what is happening right now, guess what it is not coming through.

Slipping once or twice is okay, but when you slip constantly and raise occasionally, that is just not enough.

Since you are from the PH(You have just informed us that the tracks have been reworked, given us hints to shut up or the show will be closed and slipped in a We the writers in one your post deliberately or accidentally - not sure), please do handle criticism in a mature way.

Believe me, people in the forum would love to talk about what a great show it IS and not what it WAS.

As for Gul, well we were always told it was out and out Gul's baby, creation etc...so now that it is going awry, why wouldn't she be held responsible for the mess. You can't take the bouquets and avoid the brickbats.

As for remembering the previous episodes, believe me pretty much most of us have done that, it is the PH who have to go back and see what Khushi's character was and what the show once was...from the audience POV.

I do agree that it is still one of the better shows on TV right now, have to give you guys that.

If you don't want to see the same rants again and again, well then stop making the same mistakes again and again OR GIVE US something different to rant about, simple.

The audience does not expect you guys to be brilliant on a consistent basis, yes we do DEMAND that you be at least good on a consistent basis, fair demand don't you think?




PS why is it that the PH and fans have to be at logger heads?????u know things can be taken forward amicably which is in the best interest of the viewers, channel and the show...
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Posted: 12 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Varma.nishi


First of all Shwetha, I am part of the PH or not is what I leave up to u to think coz I am under no obligation to let u KNow who I am.I am not here to prove anything to anyone...IF is a public forum and like you even I can make apposite no say whatever I want.
Well, I didn't ask for proof did I? I already stated that I think YOU ARE from the PH and the reasons for the said assumption too.

In fact I was almost tempted to start my reply with Varma G(H) and then figured may be you guys use the same swipe file before you come to the forums - Yeah I am being cheeky in a nice way.

I sure as didn't question your presence in the forum either, infact believe it or not I appreciate the fact that you are trying to present the other side's pov in a much politer way than we are usually used to, atleast so far.
Secondly be4 jumping the gun read my previous posts...pls I am no one to tell u to shut up..I am just here to logically put across my opinion and what could be th consequences if it...pls go to the previous page and read for urself...

Okay my bad, sorry.
As for khushi's character, last year she wasn't ASR's wife to have anything to do with any of his personal..she was uncomfortable with Lavanaya around them but she never reacted...that is the whole problem that she never reacts for herself.

Now what u are seeing is a diff situation altogether..
The problem is the inconsistency in her character. You made a valid point about her always putting others before her, I totally get that. But when you see a Khushi standing up to ASR and unable to do so with Shyam on a consistent basis, handling the current situation in a way that made audience cringe, which admit it, you guys had to change it didn't you.

Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada is 18/23 year old married woman, I love the fact that she tried her best to ask for an answer and even went as far as to get the DNA report done, logics aside, please enlighten me, what is her thought process behind this and this is where the disconnect comes from. Why does she need to know and what does she plan to do once finds out.

Is she going to walk out of her own marriage, Is she going to unite them as a family, What?

Why is it that monologues are missing on this account. What was the need for her to have a saint and a devil conversation or falling at someone's feet even if it is her hubby, even if it is a dream, WHY?

Ofcourse you might have reshot the scenes or edited them out, but what we are asking is give the character some respect so that she is not reduced to a caricature.

If you are trying to address her insecurities, is it hard for you guys to admit that maybe this is not the correct way to do it. Why Comedy on such an issue especially when you know the audience hates it when the character goes in a comic mode.
Also, no one has asked u to understand how things work behind the camera and u for one are not expected to do that...time and agian it has been mentioned that Guk is ONKY one of the producers and the others you KNIW are IMRC...

@underlined part: I didn't get that, typo or something, ONKY as in Gorky or Only, IMRC =???? sorry. So far I have read only Gul's interview when it comes to IPKKND, I have not heard or read, atleast this year anything from Nissar, so as far as we are concerned, it is Gul's baby as we are told time and again.
Read what I Abel written that if it's IMP to criticize..do that let the makers know whatbu want..but do praise them for the good as well..which is logical

Why is it that you guys ALWAYS respond to criticism ONLY? When the show gets praised, the writers, directors, actors, producers were praised, why NONE of you bothered to come and acknowledge it. I see you guys come all guns blazing to defend your show, your actions, why is the same passion not shown to accept when you guys are praised.

You don't think the show gets support from the audience? Why do you forget that it is the same audience which takes time out of their personal lives to ensure The show wins awards whenever it is nominated? All the grumbling posts when IPKKND never gets a nomination in the best show category, all the fan mails be it positive or negative are being made cos the audience still has hopes that this show goes back to what it was, what was promised to us.

Why is every action taken negatively? Why is it assumed that we are out to get you, criticize you? Why can't you recognize and sift through the posts and realize, that people still care for the show, even when they are trying their best to detox from the show, they are still supporting it.

When you guys are good, you are going to be praised. When you are being bad, you will be hauled up for it. Simple na?
Finally sweet heart, like I said to each is his/her own..the very reason why I r attached to this show so much proves why u r watching it..n yes if u say it is better than other shows then why not support it , if the mappers want a breather for a while , is it wrong, they tried something it didn't get appreciated and they are doing their needful.

Well breather from what, are you really telling me the CONSISTENT quality of the episodes we got last year has been the same this year? The so called breather needs a breather of its own and can we get back to business, The entire team is so talented why are you giving us sub standard stuff when you are capable of so much more.

Supporting the Show = Isnt that exactly what I and so many others are doing, we are still watching arent we? We still care dont we ?

And how do I know they are doing something, you are saying it. But you also tell me you are under no obligation to come and say this officially.

I think you are from the IPK Team so I am inclined to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are doing the needful. But then I read the thread, read your posts, ulta decoded and am here.

This forum moves exceptionally fast and for all I know this thread will be lost, so how will the people who have missed this thread know.

You do have an official account, why not come out and say it, Look we goofed up, we are correcting our mistake, we will not try to goof up again, heck add maa kasam if you want, but say something officially.

Also, FYI the others PH crave two hoots to what the audience thinks..no Matter what happens...

Considering the audience has been demanding for a better wardrobe, better storyline, better execution, taking the invisibility cloak off the missing characters and the so called visible characters aka the support cast getting its due - these demands have been ignored so far, I would have to disagree with you here.
Finally, I think I have tried explaining you the thing very politely, if undontbget the hang of it then I m sorry, i can't help u.

Yes, you were being polite, appreciate it.

NO I was not asking or requesting your help. Thanks though.
I am not allowed to and do not wish to shre anything henceforth, pls feel free to think whatever u want. Only time and u urself can convince the ardent viewer in you.

Fair enough.


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Posted: 12 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: kookie2020


Forreal, the funny thing is people think its only the spoiler pics that people are complaining about. Its the pattern we've been seeing for months now. But no, let's forget the crap the PH has shown us and enjoy the humiliation of khushi once again.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Simone2005

@mcninja...part of some rituals and karva chauth rituals to touch ur hubby's feet...so people should not have probably with upcoming scene then. I made the fasting comment to prove a point not to belittle someone's beliefs or religion. If I have then I apologize. I think what khushi is doing there is harmless its probably a 1 min or less scene. I don't think it's degrading and I think people have forgotten all the non degrading things khushi has done in past. I think they by far outweigh the "degrading" scenes.


Touching of the feet bc of a ritual and touching of feet bc you are asking for forgiveness or something...are two completely different things.

See its not just about this one incident. It's been a pattern of the show for awhile now...let's make a fool out of khushi, let's make khushi the punching bag. This track is being made into another joke and those spoiler pics are just hinting at more comedy at khushis expense. I would love to be proven wrong but I doubt it. I guess we have different definitions of degradation so I'm leaving it at this.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Well, if it is about apologising... then it should work both ways. ASR had done so many wrongs against Khushi in the past and he never apologised this way...So I think there is no need for her to apologize this way; whether in her dreams or in real...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I agree even if its a dream of khushi I dnt like the thought. Did we see Arnav get down on his knee NO so y show khushi doing that.

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