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Posted: 12 years ago
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THIS POST IS FOR THE TWO BRILLIANT PEOPLE WHO GAVE US A HOME AWAY FROM A HOME I.P. REDUX.
THIS IS ALSO FOR MY REDUX FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HELP ME AND GUIDE ME AND LOOK AFTER ME AS THEIR OWN.

ANJALI MANOHAR JHA- A CONTRAST
ANJALI DI - the name is an offering to God. She is very God fearing and always doing puja for her Brother or her Husband the two most important people in her life. She at the beginning of ISS PYAAR KO KYA NAAM Di was shown as a doting sister, who would do anything for her beloved Chotte. She literally brought him up as a son and would go to any extent to make him happy. She would guide him in many matters and would send him to office as if a mother was sending her child to office.

Her Chotte did not believe in God or anyone except for his beloved DI. He can give away all his Kushi was making his DI happy. She was the apple of her Naani's eyes, her Maamiji loved her because she nurtured a broken brother and sister and she never showed any difference between her own son Aakash and Anjali and Arnav, Maamaji also loved her. In fact when he is around he did save her life once.

This was when Shyam put a live wire in the swimming pool and dancing away with Anjali and nearly pushed her in. Maamaji saw this and put an end to that attempt. Shyam blamed Hari Prakash the servant for that. ( I Hope it was HP at that time because the Prakash brothers kept on changing)

She wants perfection in everything, like for example setting of the table or cooking in the kitchen everything should be perfect for her. She is a generous soul who thinks about the less fortunate. She was the one who told Kushi who came by mistake to Shanthi Vaan or RM as we all know it as, which leg to put forward and enter the house when Kushi was contemplating whether it was the right or left leg,

Along with her Naani, Deviyaani Singh Raizada, was the first one to see all the good qualities in Kushi. She along with her Grandmother played cupid in bring Kushi Kumari Gupta, a feisty, honest, selfless girl into the house in the pretext of training Lavanya, the then girlfriend of Arnav into how to become a cultured girl, how to fit into the Raizada household.

I really loved the mischievous Anjali and the brother ' sister bonding was great at that time. It was beautififul to see them bond and I hoped they would remain like that forever.

Even though life dealt a dreadful blow in the past, she being a handicap, her marriage stopping, loosing their parents and their only home she along with her brother came out of it but not unscathed. She was living is a bubble thinking everything was perfect. Her brother, Arnav looked after her from the age of 14 years and is still looking after her, to see her smile he would do anything for her.

This is where Arnav instead of making her face the world had kept her in protective wool and protected her so she was as nave as Kushi and was easily fooled by her husband Shyam Manohar Jha.

She did manipulative her brother to get him to go to the temple, do a puja, or even bring Kushi home. This manipulation was done with very good intentions and thinking of her brother's welfare only. She wanted Kushi in the house so that Lavanya could be trained.

She used to keep tabs on a husband little knowing that he was living a double life. He was staying in Kushi's Buaji house as a paying guest. He got engaged to Kushi, by virtually killing of her father and pressurizing Buaji to accept the proposal. Kushi got engaged against her wishes.

Then Kushi came to know the truth and broke the engagement. Shyam Manohar Jha, the husband of Anjali, was under the impression that because of his married status Kushi does not want to marry. He tried killing her three times but she came out unscathed.

ANJALI SHYAM MANOHAR JHA
Only after the Kidnapping of Arnav and the fall-out came a big change in Anjali Di . She became Anjali Manohar Jha.

She became secretive, telling lies to her beloved family who would do anything for her.She met him behind their backs and was manipulated into believeing that she was the most important thing along with their child in this world. She fell for it and commited a biggest blunder endangering herself and the unborn baby.
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words.Philip K. Dick


This was how Shyam Manohar Jha manipulated his wife. He wants to enter RM to carry out his hidden agenda. He first brought DD from the Ashram to remove Kushi and so his entry could be made possible. Since that was not possible he used Anjali. Anjali was his able assistant little knowing that she was writing a death certificate for her child and herself.

He made her invite him to the Godh barai function where he carried out the first of his plans. It resulted in Anjali' s accident and loss of her child. He came to the hospital inorder to show his sorrow of the loss of the child and blaming Anjali for not taking care of her.
He was spotted by Arnav and was sent away. Shyam made up his mind that since DD was useless he will get his entry ticket through Anjali.

Acting is the work of two people-it's only possible when you have the complicity, the help, even the manipulation of a director.


He put an idea into Anjali's head , this was described by my able friends in a much more beautiful way. Anjali now is under the impression that if she goes on a hunger strike she will be able to get her Shyamji to look after her.

Anjali Manohar Jha has forgotten she has a whole family to look after her, her brother who will do anything for her , she brainwashed by her good for nothing murderous husband to get him into RM. Little does she know he has a very sinister and devious motive to come into RM and not for her.

She has set about getting into the role of getting back her Shyamji, back forgetting that she has just lost a baby. She is following the directions of her Director husband and acting her part excellently. After all she just loves perfection.

All these days she was manipulating Chote for the good of the family. Now she is manipulating everyone which will prove detrimental to the family.

Letter to the CV's


Please do not butcher characters like Anjali, Kushi, Arnav who we watch the show for. We did sign up for a different show, the show which attracted us was the Arnav-Kushi and Arnav-Anajli relationship.
Anu


Edited by anurao.66 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ab ke (Sajan)Shyam Saawan Mein
Aag Lagegi (Badan)Anjali Mein
Khushi Barsegi
Magar Tarsege, Sajan, Mil Na Sakenge Do Man, Ek Hi Aangan Mein

With the forum in a furious mode today, with so much attention being lavished on our lovely Di - I had to
take a moment to compose myself and my thoughts..so that I could analyze what is happening here.

Yesterday, I had likened Shyam to a drug; a drug that Anjali has gotten so used to; that she cannot live
without it. Such is the master planning of the schemer...she cant let go; unless, that drug wears off, and wear off it will.
When she lost her parents, she experienced severe isolation; the people who picked her pieces up; gave her so much attention, that she got used
to being molly coddled, got used to being that center of attraction and always wanted to be. She likes to be that precious princess..so yes, she does
not like it when her brother's attention is diverted to Khushi and when her husbande desired that same Khushi. How she is able to tolerate Khushi, is the one
dilemma I still have...if I have understood her character right...my feeling is that it just a pretense to ensure her status in her house. And yes, she does
not have once ounce of sympathy from me, because she failed - first as a mother, second as a sister and third as a human being...a wife I wont talk about, because
I dont think she really was on...it was a just a relationship of convenience, dependence to say the least.

Now coming to KKGSR, I didnt think there was anything wrong with what she was thinking. In fact she is thinking out of her maternal instinct, something that even Anjali is not thinking about..
and KKG is not even a mom yet. What is her thought process? Maybe the child made the difference, maybe the loss of child has made Shyam see reason...its always the child isnt it? Secondly, its about Arnav..
Di needs to be happy...and what is making her happy? She was always this way; self sacrificing. Not trying to defend whether what she is doing or going to do right or wrong; just trying to reason
that, this is how she thinks. Would you rather see someone you love die / suffer or would you give them the one thing they are asking for? I think you would give them what they want; to just see them happy.
KKG even said yesterday; In Anjali's case, people give up on life, and her "tiredness" - which I akin to all her sufferings due to Shyam are nothing compared to what Anjali has gone through...again what? Loss
of child - a mother speaking, or the instinct speaking. Now Arnav is not going to be happy...and this will lead to an argument and a disagreement for sure...but then the focus is back on the leads..cause
then Shyam has entered...and then we face their past. Its story set up now for the long term; so lets be patient Ladies!

Ideal Non Soapy World
Khushi would not get Shyam in, ASR would become Sherlock and expose Shyam and Anjali would kick his sorry a$$ out of the house...not so simple is it? They need more lather out of the soap 😆

Random Thoughts
Yes, the Anji-Shyam scene was too long but needed for Khushi to discover them.
Why are the brothers going to consult an OB-GYN? Isnt the woman supposed to accompany at least to see who her new doc is? 21st century anyone?
I am pretty confident that the story will move back to Arnav and Khushi...its their battle to fight...its just a matter of time; Poojali is not going to UK is she? Its the leads they are promoting and the leads
will be back in focus...lets be patient. Of this week, Friday's episode was weak; but lets face it, we cant have good days all the time can we?
Where are the promos for the MahaEpisode? Is it happening?

Finally - Sorry to see you leave Deepali! Wish you all the best!
CVs - are we getting another Payal - or like mamaji - she gets the bunk?
Edited by droopy_asleep - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Res

Why every body reserve culd anyone tell me or PM me
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Arshi Analyzers

Posted: 12 years ago
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First of all, i hadn't intended to reserve a spot at all!! I was just walking back from school around 3:00 and i had to pick up my sister on the way back, and thats when i posted a comment!

Honestly speaking, the episode was a bit of disappointment but it wasn't as if i wasn't expecting it. A part of me was sure that there'll some kind of dullness before the explosion happens.
I'm not going to be doing a detailed analysis because that can wait. I'm just going to put forth my perspective about the episode in few words as much as it would be possible for me!!

The episode for me just cleared up the doubt lingering in my mind since february. Anjali was never too excited for the baby. What she was happy about was the fact that she was bearing Shyam's child. remember the look on her face when she told her brother that she was bearing a child? it was hollow and blank as if she knew nothing of what was going on!! and then when she told her husband the same it was full of delight!!

Do you all know why in the world was she crying for the child that day? She was crying because she knew Chotte wouldn't allow Shyam back, and the kid would be something of Shyam as a gift to her. Weird, huh? This woman here is fragile, broken and delusional yet so strong!! The child i think is alive and will be a premature birth, though i am for the first time quite in a shock that after doctor said the child hasn't been saved, and of course did a operation, didn't see the babies alive!?

Arnav and Khushi are getting disoriented a bit and Shyam is hitting just on the right spot here, but is unknowingly also digging his grave. There love i presume will get more stronger to help them through!

About Khushi i'll just say that there are times when a person longs to grab a ray of light even if its coming with darkness. She's naive in judging people like always and this decision was in character.

xx happy weekend
Edited by areeba_blossom - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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From Arnav to Anjali. And from me to IPKKND in generally. W*F ARE YOU DOING??? Yes this will be a rant post because I am PISSED off.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY&feature=player_detailpage[/YOUTUBE]




Frankly, I found the episode distressing. It was a bit too much to take in. So an analysis from me today is not going to be easy. I find that I cannot bring myself to watch the episode again because it will provoke me to throw something at someone.

My displeasure stems from the character assassination of the character I once looked up to. My interpretation of Anjali was that she was naive but wise and brave and kind. She is the reason I started watching this show but now she is reason why I am having difficulty tolerating it.

This show is amongst the only thing that I watch, the other being Castle whose season five will air from 24th September, because I do not have time to watch anything else. Frankly, I want to go to Oxford or Cambridge to study medicine. That is my ambition. And that will take a helluva effort. So IPK is my distraction and it keeps me calm. But to watch it go like this is making my BP go up!

Yaar, what the hell? Sit down, take a pen and some paper, or get white board and marker, and WRITE THE FREAKING DETAILS OF EVERY SINGLE SCENE YOU SHOOT!!! I write amateur stories and I make a point to jot down the details of every scene in them. Why not you?

We are not asking for much. We just want consistency and accuracy. If you have that, you can nail a lot of things. You don't even have actors that are mediocre! You have one of the best casts in the Tellyworld and YOU DON'T FREAKING USE THEM PROPERLY!!!

*Calm down*

I am feeling emotional and moody for no apparent reason and I just fell off my edge. I won't analyse today cuz I find myself unable to think. Dadi, Shyam and Anjali have gotten on my nerves and Khushi is close to it. In fact apart from Arnav, Nani, Buaji and NK, everyone is starting to piss me off.

I will end my rant here. I do not want to go on and on and on about it. But I felt really disappointed with the episode and I just burst out.

Love
Nazifa


Edited by N.Mussarrat - 12 years ago
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I am not sure what to say about the episode. A mother who just lost her baby needs love and attention. It's expected she would want Shyam back because she never believed the accusations made by Khushi and NK. But if she is really mourning her child, will she be able lie and manipulate her family? Every day Anjali's character hits a new low.

A request to cvs : If this is the way Anjali is going to be, then so be it. But please don't request the fans to understand her or sympathize with her because it is just worsening the situation.


Khushi is simple, nave and good hearted lady. But since when did she become so dumb? She is contemplating to bring Shyam back. Really? If the rest of the Raizada's want to bring him back, I can understand, but Khushi? Did she forget Shyam nearly killed her and Arnav. It was a total head desk moment.

Another note to the cvs : Don't disregard issues as big a murder or attempted murder. It is not a child's play.



Arnav Singh Raizada, a business tycoon has little or no security in his mansion. How is Shyam sneaking in and out? Care to explain it cvs? What happened to the tighter security and the restraining order for Shyam?


Why would two grown men go to a gynaecologist for their sister? Okay fine, Arnav found a new gynaecologist but why on earth would he have an appointment with the doctor?

You have negotiated to give a certain actor for a meatier role. The parallel lead and lead antagonist are getting more screen space then actual leads. But sadly it is neither helping the storyline, nor is it working with the audience and in order to do so you are compromising with the quality of the show. This is what happens when quantity takes over quality.

Deepali has quit the show. I am not surprised. I wish her all the best for her future project and I hope she gets good roles where she can actually get the scope to perform. There is no news for a replacement yet. Good luck in finding a good enough replacement.

Can we please have mamaji back and if he is unavailable, can you care to get a replacement for him too? His unexplained disappearance may not bother you but it is bothering the viewers.


Friday was a disappointment. I hope next week is better although I can't hope for much at this stage, simply because the consistency, crisp screen play has vanished and the character sketches are being messed up.


cheers

Fari.

Edited by incandescent - 12 years ago
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helo al reduxians,

this week didn't like writing...u can guess why???
straight pointers:
1.this week is a trp suicide.why anjali character is not shown matured enough.if she want s shyam bk why go for hunger strike one day and the the other she is al fine? why can't she talk to her bro like a matured lady????this q is on evryones mind...believe me...some maturety anjali character deserves for the sake of screen space.
2. not even a single scene showing elders of the house discussing about arnav/khushi remarriage?...it would hv satisfied the viewers...why al concern for anjali only...wat about others happiness??
3. after arnav/khushi marriage thing came out,i was expecting a good heart to heart talk b/w payal/khushi.it was imp for payal to know how her younger sis sacrifised for her sake.payal/akash duo support for arnav/khushi scenes would definitely given screen space to both the actors...in story it would hv looked like a payback of how arnav/khushi united dem. i know dey could'hv pulled up some mindblowing scenes.wat a waste of talent!!
weekend is long will add some more later on...waiting for doods.
Edited by aidan34 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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OK..

Before sharing some positive points le me point out some problem areas...

1. Promotion
Hugh problem here...😡...
Weather it is channel or PH i am not interested in breaking my head..which is already spinned by dumb people in my work place...
PH is more like a MOTHER of a show...if not a MOTHER than who will care😡..AUNTYLOG KYA😡..
Let me guess who is the AUNTY...🤔...SBS SBB😲???

High time the bell rings in PH ka ears...HIGH TIME...

2. ANJALI SCENE REPETITION

What's with Shyam always sneaking in Poojali's room and hide and seek wala romance😲 😕..
Ok...SHyam and Anjali scenes are IMP...but just to accommodate more screen space to certain actor you can compromise on your story and leads kya😲...


I am not asking 24/7 and full 22 mins with ArHi..like many Fans do...but all i ask is let the story and show move showing maing the LEADS POV na😭
can you denay that this show is manly staying because of ArHi...
so if you dump them where will your story go???


OTHER PROBLEM AREAS

Today I was reading IF articles...and I really felt sorry for IPKKND

Poor Poor show...has no one supporting it now😭..except for loyal fans😭...

1. In other shows...Bollywod actors are comming to promote their movie..and what do we get???.
2. Other 8.00 PM shows are getting FADU promos...specially MAHADEV...and BV though
and what does IPK get??
3. They get articles saying LOVE WILL START...ROMANCE WILL BLOSSOM...STOY WILL BE INTERESTING...
and IPK no promo, no promotion nothing...

CAN't THE PH WAKE UP ATLEAST NOW FOR PETS SAKE😡...



POSITIVES...

Yes...there are positives also along with this

the story of Past and hate and disloyalty has now started😃..

1. What will Arnav do once Kushi gets shyam😲
2. Will Kushi really go against Arnav
3. Will the MU be long and big and strong
4. Will BRAINLESS anjali ever get to see the TRUTH😆
5. Will the Haldi happen..and will Arni be the same after Kushi gets shyam😡..
6. How will the past come out
7. How will it further effect Arnav Kushi
8. Even after all this..Will Arnav Kushi be Physically close ????
9. Will this give way for Passionate Arnav
10. Will this give way for Stronger Anjali
11. IS the baby safe...
12. What and how will Kushi support Garima??


SO many things to happen😊...
SO many chances and opportunities...
So many paths for improvements...

THe PH has the BIGGEST ASSET... FANS and their LOVE...

I have been saying this..Despite BV being 4.8 and 5.5
Despite Mahadev being 2.6 and 2.5
without any promotion, without any celebrity attending or coming to our show...
without out AUNTY's supporting us😆
WE still are DECENT 2.8😃

Shows something right😉...FAN POWER😃



The epi was really not that bad...but only thing is had less no. of good things to remember 😆
Like
1. Repitative Anjali Shyam scene
2. Arnav for a sec is all into Kushi and for the next does not even know what is she doing 😕

but i must tell the PV has improved slightly😊
Direction has Improved😊..
Story... I want to believe that CV's and Channel and PH knows what they are doing and where are they heading...😊

ArHi...this is their show...Koi kuch bhi kare😆..at the end...ArHi will have Intimate scenes, romance, Fight, everything😃

Trust me... I want to see what comes ahead insted of breaking my head in advance and i have learnt that hard way😭😆..
so let the PH and CV's channel take all tension...

I will watch and support the show as long as I can handle it😆...and again trust me when i say SHOW HAS NOT GONE BAD😃...
...

Edited by Cool_wonder - 12 years ago
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Tonight's episode was a disappointment, it was not the way I would have expected the show to end the week off given the episodes from earlier this week. I have to wonder what the CVs were thinking with this episode and why they are destroying their characters when this track would have perfectly well without going so far

Anjali, she is someone who was expected to be in denial and want her husband back this was a given but why the manipulation?? Why is Anjali shown to be playing such a cruel game with the people who love her so much and would do anything for her happiness? It was sickening to watch her scheming and manipulating, it was not needed and ruined whatever hope was left for her character

Khushi, she is someone who would do anything for her loved ones happiness including putting up with Shyam but did it have to come with her turning a blind eye to his past actions?? Why did the CVs have to show her saying he can change when she has seen how easily he manipulates people?? Shyam tried to kill her husband yet she is easily thinking of change and bringing him back, what gives?? It just pushed things too far and shed her character in a bad light

Arnav, here is someone who lately has done everything Khushi ke liye because he could not tolerate seeing her in pain so where did that vanish today?? Where was the follow up to what he noticed in the previous episode?? I would have liked a scene where Arnav was shown telling Dadi to treat Khushi with respect or at least not show him brushing Khushi off so he could go to an OBGYN that too without the patient who by the way is recovering just fine!

Finally, this show has always been promoted with Khushi and Arnav as the leads right? They are who we have watched for more than a year, whether it was their hatred, annoyance, kidnapping and now love it was always their story so where is that now?? These days Arnav and Khushi have no story of their own and have been reduced as side characters while Shyam and Anjali take centre stage. Is it any wonder why fans are outraged? Why the ramanchi on fans? This was never DKS, this was never Shyam and Anjali's story so please stop selling it that way because no one is buying it!!

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