Ultimate Tragedy and Ultimate Kindness - Page 5

The HD creators can potray Indira the way they like but they should really stop trying to label her character as a strong, independent, modern woman. Besides the outward bitterness and rudeness that her character has, she is really no different from any of the aburdly unrealistic female characters on indian television who spend all their lives "sacrificing" and living under the false pretense that this is the only way to make others happy.

Originally posted by: Walden

The HD creators can potray Indira the way they like but they should really stop trying to label her character as a strong, independent, modern woman. Besides the outward bitterness and rudeness that her character has, she is really no different from any of the aburdly unrealistic female characters on indian television who spend all their lives "sacrificing" and living under the false pretense that this is the only way to make others happy.

A strong, indepedent, modern woman values her own life and worth just as much as she values those around her. A strong, independent, modern woman is not one who pretends that she does not need anyone else to live. Going in all alone in life is not a trait of the brave, rather is it s a trait of the immature.

As long as Indira continues to treat her husband and family members as "kids," who are not mature or strong enough to handle the truth of her illness, the people around her will continue to behave the way they have so far. It is sadly a self-fulfilling prophecy. If hat is what the creators want to show, sure go ahead. But again, please don't glorify Indira's behavior and actions as one of a strong, modern woman.

you have the right to share your POV , but @bold - please dont tell others who and who not to glorify as that is there choice 😳

Originally posted by: likaboss

you have the right to share your POV , but @bold - please dont tell others who and who not to glorify as that is there choice 😳

and coming to your point ... i beg to differ

@red - strong , independent modern woman - in my POV a woman who can stand on her own two feet without anyone's help is quite strong and independent !👍🏼 Especially in todays society

and as far as making others happy goes , then if your regarding Indiras recent actions of changing her family members , then i dont see what shes doing wrong 🤔

Her family are never going to change - and indira loves her family, but shes thinking of their future - so far nothing has changed them , so i feel she's doing the right thing by hiding her condition from them / atleast until she is sure that after shes gone , they will be able to survive ...

so some may not agree with Indu hiding her condition with her family - but to understand this , you have to think from Indiras perspective ... If you saw in the beginning episodes of this track - how indira dreamt of how her family would react to her illness / they were more concerned about the property then indira .. so i can understand the reason behind her hiding her illness

and frankly Indira has always been alone - the abandonment of her father / constant lies and deceits from her family has shaped her like this ...

@blue - have you ever thought at WHY she treats them like this ? When have any of them ever accepted any responsibilities ? and the people around her aren't toddlers who cant think for themselves (expect 2). If Indira had told them the truth - what would we have seen exactly ??

People are saying Rishi is going to save Indu - but exactly how ??? i know he loves her a lot , but his character is shown to be jobless and not at all strong in my POV - so what will Indu expect ? I know Rishi will support her till her last breath , but after that ?? Whats Rishi going to do ?? He's always been dependent on someone , and now he's dependent on Indira - not financially but mentally , Indira is the type of person who only thinks about others and again some may find this quality of hers quite "immature" as you say . But i find someone who wants to dedicate their life to the betterment of others , quite heroic 😊

So again you have to think from Indiras shoes to understand her actions - After Indira goes ... Rishi will be the most sad and devastated out of them all .. so this re-marriage idea that Indu has , i agree with it - not personally , but looking at why she wants this ..then yes

and her family - they will definitely be sad about Indira - but at the back of their minds the thought of how and who is going to run their house from now is always going to be on a loop ..

Personally i think she should tell him - but when you see things from Indiras character , you'l start to see things clearer 😊

So in my POV Cvs are doing a great job with Indiras character 👍🏼 Showing a brave and courageous woman is awesome !! - especially looking at the current television characters

we mostly see daily soap "Bahus" who never do anything without the permission of their husbands and women tend to also follow this

so Indira Sharma - in my POV is a boon for all women 🤗 and she is rocking !!

Im not saying that all women should pick up their chappals and start dominating - but atleast Indira teaches people how you shouldnt run from situations -

and i could list all the perfections and imperfections of Indira Sharma but i think everyone is already aware of them😊

nd btw congo on 4 posts 😉

My post wasnt intended to hurt anyone just my POV 😊

Originally posted by: Angels_Sweetz

Wonderful topic 😊 I totally Agree

Her Kindness had been visible right frm the Begining of the show, though in small glimpses

But look at the Tragedy that came to her life...

I was touched and was left sad whn...the moment she got to knw abt her illness and that she has very lil days left...she was only Thinking abt her Family members at that Moment!!!

Thn Indira made us stunned by Planning how to make her Family members self independent before she leaves...so that within the life she has she can make them Layak!!! It really Amazed me!!! Majority of ppl would think of fulfilling their wishes which werent possible till now, they would want to live their life doing all that they wanted but couldnt. But here we get to see Indira live the lil life she has only to make her family members and her Husband self Independent and settled well.

Today...they were 2 shockers

1 ) She wants Rishi to remarry...so that he wouldnt be alone aft her.

Its soo difficult for a Wife to think abt that...but see Indira and her Kindness and love for Rishi. She wants someone there for him aft her, so that person would take care of him and he would have someone with him! Her dream was really hurting to see...How Indira was Smiling doing the most difficult thing for a wife to do! Her Smile was actually piercing my Heart...It had a content and satisfactory smile, but it hurt me to see that. Felt really sorry for her.

2 ) She is planning to donate her Kidney in need of money for her chemo sessions. So that she can have more days to live to make her plans for her family work well and get assured of their being. She hardly things abt herself...her thoughts, her concern are alwys for others! Inshort...she lives only for others but not for herself!!!

EDIT

Rati di's performance each day is Amazing!!!

Indira's scenes are soo Heartfelt and its all coz of Rati di's excellence in those scenes. She makes us connect to her character, feeling for her and making us emotional in her scenes!

There is very little to add to how well you have expressed yourself. Indira is selfless whether the outcome of this storyline ends in tragedy or not. I would like to be optimistic in that somehow the tragedy is averted and she continues to live.

Originally posted by: AnkitalovesHD

It is true, one must learn to love oneself to love others. 😊

But the definition of a strong woman is a vague one. The women in Africa who labour in fields, with a child in one hand are looked upon like goddesses. I am sure they dont have a lot of time to love themselves. 😊 So its quite subjective IMO and no I dont relentlessly toil for others. 😆

That is true that one does not need time to have self worth. But where did you find Indu suffering from a paucity of self worth? I think the topic of discussion was Indira not balancing her life, toiling away relentlessly for her family, the whole sacrificial angle brought in regressive Indian soaps! Thus my example. Those women sacrifice every ounce of their living being for their families and many a times get abused at the end of the day. Does not make them any less strong for doing what they do. I would probably fall in the category of the woman you described above as an independent modern woman. Yet I find what they do, the courage to struggle against daily drudgeries quite admirable. Doesnt make it regressive IMO. Now how the Indian soaps decide to make a display of it is a different thing entirely. 😊 Love Ankita.

Originally posted by: AnkitalovesHD

That is true that one does not need time to have self worth. But where did you find Indu suffering from a paucity of self worth? I think the topic of discussion was Indira not balancing her life, toiling away relentlessly for her family, the whole sacrificial angle brought in regressive Indian soaps! Thus my example. Those women sacrifice every ounce of their living being for their families and many a times get abused at the end of the day. Does not make them any less strong for doing what they do. I would probably fall in the category of the woman you described above as an independent modern woman. Yet I find what they do, the courage to struggle against daily drudgeries quite admirable. Doesnt make it regressive IMO. Now how the Indian soaps decide to make a display of it is a different thing entirely. 😊 Love Ankita.

Having said this I must say that I completely agree with the statement you put forward : The idea that having absolutely no worth for your own life, desires, and happiness somehow makes you "heroic" is regressive.

Like I said "One needs to love oneself inorder to love others." 😊

Originally posted by: Walden

I think you are missing the argument that I was trying to make. The idea that having absolutely no worth for your own life, desires, and happniess somehow makes you "heroic" is regressive and is no different than what is potrayed in all the other television dramas. A woman who is able to balance her personal happniess while at the same time caring for her family members would be the true definition of a strong, independent, modern woman. Not losing hope in humanity despite being betrayed by people (which we all have been at some point in our livces) is what makes a strong, independent, modern woman. Like I said, the HD creators can potray Indira as they like and you can justify her actions as your like, but neither the show nor its viewers should pretend that she is a true representataion of a strong, modern woman.

You make some valid points - but me and you view very differently 😆