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Posted: 13 years ago
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I still cannot see any kind of remorse in that slimebag...he is still concerned only about himself...as though he is being punished for committing only silly mistakes...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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i think he is a victim though...that doesn't make his handlign of anandi right nor do i agree with the senseless way he treated her whatsoever...but who has any sense of what they are goign on at 8 years old?? i dont think he is so bad for growing up, coming to the city, and falling in love and realizing this is the person he wants to spend the rest of his life with...i mean even my parents when they got married though it was arranged had the choice to say yes or no to the wedding. and once htey said yes it became their responsibility and commitment...and at 24 they had a clear understanding of what htey were getting into. it wasn't his fault that at age 8 his parent had him married...that was their fault and i feel anandi became more their responsibility than his when they brought her into the house and they are handling that responsibility very commendably. what he did wasn't right, the way he treated her wasnt' at all right whatsoever, but considering hsi was a child marriage...i give him some slack...and as of right now do feel bad for him as gauri to me is more wrong than him. for sure he was wrong for lying to her...but before they got married all the facts were clear infront of her face...and she had a choice. she should have and could have rejected him...but still knowing he was previoulsy married...she married him. and he was i think fulfilling that marriage in the sense that he had no desire to return home and was ready to break off the connection. she was the one who insisted and demanded to return to his home and get everyone's blessings and acceptance. and then she's the one who became an insecure psycho soon after...i think jagat should suffer but so should gauri possibly even more than jagat. what did she think she would marry jagat, displace anandi, throw her out of the house...tkae her place and let her suffer?? and when that didnt happen and she didn't get all the luxories decide that jagat is worthless and throw him out of her life?? it's not really fair and extremely selfish too me.

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tweetie19

I still cannot see any kind of remorse in that slimebag...he is still concerned only about himself...as though he is being punished for committing only silly mistakes...

agreed... jagat shows regret (impact of decisions on himself)
he does not show remorse (concern for impact of his decisions on others, and feeling their pain)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I totally agree with groovychia. You can not completely fault him for falling in love with Gauri.
But he allowed himself to be manipulated by Gauri. He was wrong in not knowing his priorities in
Life.where was the necessity to please badi mausi by skipping classes, not taking his MS seriously.
Badi mausi was Old fashioned lady who did not understand the rules and regulations of accademics.
He has a lot to learn in life.he is not inherently bad like Gauri, who cheats and manipulates a
And misleads J also. There is some softness in him too. He is just a spoiled Indian male brat
Now he is complaining to God that he is alone.that is the first step.Soon he will reflect on how
He treated A and his family. He will Realize all his faults.


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Posted: 13 years ago
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IMHO being a victim of Child marriage does not give Jagya the license to trample others (Anandi, his family, his friends).

As Tinoo has said many times, he is a coward and cited his childhood marriage to Gauri as an excuse because he did not have the guts to face Dadisa and tell her I choose Gauri as an adult because I love her period. On the one hand he seeks approval for Gauri based on their childhood marriage and then contradicts himself and says he was nt given a choice in his marriage to Anandi.

Truth is, the guy will ever stop blaming others or his circumstances. To Anandi he made excuses about her incompatibility with him based on education qualification and modernity. He is the type of personality that is never happy with where he is...he will always be seeking greener pastures. Playing victim is just a ruse to continue this quest.

He had the gall to say he is suffering more than Anandi. How dare he? He is so self absorbed that he does not see how miserable he made her life. He took away all her self worth and even tried to strip her of the only family she has known since 8 years of age.

I will never feel sorry for him because he is worse than the scum growing in a fish tank.

You know how they say in Hindi 'Girgiet ki tarah rang badalte hain' (correct me if I'm saying it wrong)...I say, Jagya changes his tune to make circumstances reflect on him favorably, but his inherent nature of narcissism peeks through despite all his efforts.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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exactly hence i said i completely disapprove of jagya's handling of the situation and treatment of anandi...i don't believe the manner in which he treated another fellow victim was right i agree with you there. he acted like she was teh cause of all of his life's problems when she wasn't. that's why my sympathy for him has a limit. had he gone with gauri but handled the entire situation significantly more delicately and sensibly...treating anandi with utmost respect and empathy it would not have been as bad as it was.

but he was a victim of child marriage...and gauri was as guilty an accomplice if not worse. as jagat was raised in chauvanistic household, spoiled, wiht his family constantly feeding his ego...for example when anandi proved she was smarter than jagya in studies her books were burned...not saying it's his family's fault or justifies his personality but he innately is spoiled and gets what he wants. but gauri is equally selfish...she had her education funded by his family, attempted to displace anandi out of her own house, created so many rifts and misunderstandings between each individual member of jagya's household...which jagya is stupid too for not having judgement sense of his own but still she did manipulate the situation too...infront of him showing only sweetness towards anandi and behind his back only cursing her out and etc basically what i'm trying to say is i do believe jagya should learn a lesson i'm not at all opposed to that. but gauri too should be there suffering side by side and having some relevations of her own as well...this is annoying he's not the only one wrong she is too and i find her character worse than his so this tract is annoying. i don' twant them to be happy together after howt hey both treated anandi but i believe htey both need to learn a lesson...gauri is not learning anything except for how to successfully use and disuse people for professional gain...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I do understand his moving 'away' from anandi and the liking for gauri and the want to marry her to some extent...but if he would have done it in a betterw ay by discussing and informing anandi abt his change of feelings...and not disposing off anandi as a tissue paper ...all this mess he is in now would surely not had happened..
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Posted: 13 years ago
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he never ever blames himself as if he is the purest person!!! ugh🤢🤢D'ohD'oh
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: groovychica_22

exactly hence i said i completely disapprove of jagya's handling of the situation and treatment of anandi...i don't believe the manner in which he treated another fellow victim was right i agree with you there. he acted like she was teh cause of all of his life's problems when she wasn't. that's why my sympathy for him has a limit. had he gone with gauri but handled the entire situation significantly more delicately and sensibly...treating anandi with utmost respect and empathy it would not have been as bad as it was.


but he was a victim of child marriage...and gauri was as guilty an accomplice if not worse. as jagat was raised in chauvanistic household, spoiled, wiht his family constantly feeding his ego...for example when anandi proved she was smarter than jagya in studies her books were burned...not saying it's his family's fault or justifies his personality but he innately is spoiled and gets what he wants. but gauri is equally selfish...she had her education funded by his family, attempted to displace anandi out of her own house, created so many rifts and misunderstandings between each individual member of jagya's household...which jagya is stupid too for not having judgement sense of his own but still she did manipulate the situation too...infront of him showing only sweetness towards anandi and behind his back only cursing her out and etc basically what i'm trying to say is i do believe jagya should learn a lesson i'm not at all opposed to that. but gauri too should be there suffering side by side and having some relevations of her own as well...this is annoying he's not the only one wrong she is too and i find her character worse than his so this tract is annoying. i don' twant them to be happy together after howt hey both treated anandi but i believe htey both need to learn a lesson...gauri is not learning anything except for how to successfully use and disuse people for professional gain...


Hey Groovychica,

I agree with you about Gauri paying for her part in things too. I am not comparing Jagya to Gauri when it comes to punishment. I don't care who is the greater offender. Bottom line is they both offended and are in great need of suffering.

The intention of this thread was to dissect Jagya's claims that he made when he was feeling sorry for himself. Even if he is a victim...where is his remorse for the stuff he has done in victimising others. Here's another thought...his dad (Bhairon) also grew up in the same patriarchal system under the same Dadisa's thumb. How come Jagya couldn't learn something good from Bhairon's example. There are many types of victims...some wallow in self pity, some get up, move on and turn their lives around, some continue to blame others and some are a combination...

Yes Jagya is a victim of child marriage and ...ok I'll give you patriarchal system too. But does that justify him continually using that card for every wrong he does. Does it justify anyone's wrong doing..when they say I am a victim of the patriarchal system,..to me there is no justification for such claims. Generally speaking anyone who does any wrong be it a thief or a child molester can claim being a victim of one thing or another to justify their crime. Wrong is wrong.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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yeah i agree with what you are saying...his attitude is really wrong. :)

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