ShaunSA - A post on Jigarji

Sorry, Shaun. I didn't see your suggestion on making a new thread on Jigarji. I have been trying to wean myself off of the SNS forum so am back to being a silent reader. Any way, I have always appreciated your liking my posts, so I couldn't ignore your suggestion.
For other readers here, I had posted the comments below in a thread made by Abbay here - http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=2917290. The first two paragraphs have been copied and pasted from that thread. I added the last two to make the post a little more current.

... for the past several days, I have been doing some soul searching about why I don't like Jigar loving Rashi. I like Jigar. He is a gentleman; has a gentle soul and a clear heart; he is not conniving and manipulative like Rashi. If it was a choice between having Jigar or Rashi in my life, I will take Jigar over Rashi any day. So why can't I be happy in what Jigar is doing for his wife. I tried to watch the kitchen scene; it just didn't do it for me. Love is supposed to be blind and unchangeable. Gopi loved Ahemji (I know there is no comparison between Ahem and Rashi) despite his rude behavior, so why can't I accept Jigarji's unwavering love for Rashi? I should admire him for that, right?

The thing is Jigarji's behavior bothers me is because I don't think he loves Rashi. He is a gentleman and he was brought up with good values, so he treats Rashi as he should do with any woman. I feel it was sweet of him to help Rashi in the Kitchen scene, but he would have done the same for Kinjal too if she was in Rashi's place. When he is concerned about Rashi, his concern doesn't come across of a person deeply in love. It is a concern for a friend or a fellow human being. He has to do something big for Rashi - may be defy his family for her, shield her from a bullet or support her in some other way to convince me he is in love with her. This seems more like an infatuation to me the way he is always trying to get physically close to her. I believe if he was married to any other woman, he will be the same way with her too. He needs to show that he can not imagine being with any other woman except Rashi and make the viewers believe that as we do in the case of Gohem. Until CV's do that for me, I am afraid I can't enjoy Jigarji's attention toward Rashi or the Raji romantic scenes. It all looks too fake and I almost feel sorry for Rashi for not having a true saathiya whose love could make her want to move mountains.

The above feelings were reinforced for me when I saw Jigarji's behaviour after Rashi's blindness and during the recently averted Modi kitchen split. I will only discuss the second one to avoid making this post too long. I don't have any problems with Jigarji seeking comfort from his wife and crying over her shoulder. What I have a problem with is him not offering any comfort or his shoulder to her back. If he loves Rashi, shouldn't he be thinking how she is feeling in all this? In his perception, she should be as heart broken as him and she should also be in need of some consolation from her husband, right? Did he even look at her once and try to console her? His actions were more of a little boy needing his mother to pat his head and wipe his tears.

I never see Jigarji trying to find out what Rashi's likes and dislikes are. Agree she runs away from him, but he should force the issue if he loves her. He doesn't know who she is and what makes her tick. When he found out about her treachery to get married to him, he didn't tell any one about it and he was angry. I thought here's a man who is in love with a woman who turned out to have feet of clay and he is disillusioned and heart broken because he can't stop loving her. But then after a few days, he let his family throw her out and when she came back, he accepted her rather quickly blindly acting like she was the love of his life. That is not what love is. Love is blind but it doesn't mean being blind to your partner's faults, but loving them inspite of them. For Jigarji, this is just a compromise because he happens to be married to Rashi and feels the needs to just settle in a married life. Any woman would do for him since he is trying to be a good husband and not a true saathiya.

Good one..⭐️
Will come back and comment.. I need to set my thoughts

Wow, excellent post Aris. I have to say you have opened my eyes about Jigar and made an excellent point.

Originally posted by: Justlikethat1

Good one..⭐️
Will come back and comment.. I need to set my thoughts

**Edited**

What a nice post Aris..👏 Again thought provoking and I should say very genuine..

You are correct. I cannot feel that Jigar truly loves Rashi either. Let us not talk of Rashi's love for Jigar here..

When you say that Jigar would have done the same for any other girl in his life, I think you are right. I am even ok with that. He would have done the same he is doing for Rashi to Sonal in case he had married her. That is not wrong.

But when I come to think of it, his 'love' if we assume it is that lacks depth. Now that you have posted this, I have to say... I found Dhawal's love for Kinjal stronger than Jigar's love for Rashi.

The way that Dhawal after the watch incident told Kinjal that he knows she does not like him but that he married her not for her money but because he had fallen totally in love with her.. Dhawal is as sweet as Jigar but that one scene made me realize that Dhawal's love for Kinjal is very genuine and deep. Jigar has done nothing genuine like this. His love does not come under the same category as Dhawal's.

You hit the nail on the head, Harini. Dhawalji knows who Kinjal is. He loves Kinjal with all her warts and faults recognizing all her weaknesses. His love is the true love and he makes us believe that it is only Kinjal and Kinjal for him. He will stand tall to protect her against any storms in their lives. On the other side, Jigarji's love is shallow. The tiniest puff of air will blow it away.

Gopi loves Aham that is almost equal to worshipping. Not that Aham was ever proved to be treacherous or a traitor.. But whatever Aham did, Gopi took it in and absorbed it within herself never showing others how much he hurt her. There were times when he hurt her in front of others but even then she was pained by his pain than hers.. Jigar's love does not come under this category either.

Nope. Can never imagine Jigarji being hurt by Rashi and trying to figure out why she hurt him or questioning is she hurting him to assuage her own heart ache or is she also suffering because of the pain she gave him? Does he feel pain on her behalf?

Maybe the Cvs fault, but Jigar's character just lacks the depth that is needed in a love story. He is very fleeting, changing his mood and decisions in the wink of an eye that you will miss something important if you blink. His turnaround without proper conversation with Rashi, his flirting when they have not resolved anything that happened between them, I am worried that Jigar will never fall in love..

I agree. The CV's haven't developed Jigarji's character. They could have done that when he discovered Rashi's kalalkaris, but they botched a golden opportunity to build up his character.

For if he was in love, Jigar will not be this callous with Rashi. His attraction seems to be for her but he is not in love. He may love her but I am not sure if he likes her and I am very sure he is not in love with her for he does not even try to get to know her. Love is a feeling that makes you go through pain and joy. Jigar underwent through pain and joy but why does that not look like love to me?

His tears after Rashi's betrayal and his words.. "People are correct, I am not worldly wise.." It was not of a man in love but a man who is sorry for himself. Or that is how it looked like. If just once Jigar had asked Rashi as to why she did what she did... Maybe.. Maybe.. But no..

Yes, he suffered, but it was not a suffering of a person deeply in love. It was more of a person who feels angry and humiliated and a victim. He cried because he didn't catch Rashi's lies and not because he was in love with a woman who was a liar and a cheater and didn't think he could get over her.

On the whole, a character that is very shallow cannot evoke the same emotions when compared to the other ones.. I think that is why of the three couples, Rashi and Jigar come down the list.. GoHem we know, in KinWal atleast Dhawals love is sincere for his wife, It is only with Rashi and Jigar that the love is not seen, neither from his end or hers..

I rest my case.

Like your arguments in this case.

Thanks for your comments, Harini. Very good points. It is time, I think, the CV's pay attention to Jigarji and give him some profoundness to let Vishal sink his teeth into a meatier role than what he has played so far.

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

@ aris Fantastic OP👏⭐️

@harini awesome reply👏⭐️

i have only one thing to say why i do not like jigar claiming to love rashi or showing that he loves rashi with his gestures...is lack of genuineness and lack of truth, honesty and passion in a relation😕

yeah like harini..for me dhaval's love is more genuine...that one statement made a place in my heart...

.jigar's love..i don't see love...all i see is.. ok she is my for the rest of my life..why not move on with her... here he repeatedly tells himself and his mind that he loves her... for true love you need not remind that you love your wife ... it is a feeling which stays in your heart...

Jigar has no genuine feelings what so ever...when there are no true feelings it won't touch your heart...

remember ... even Ahem's dark past ...his nasty behavior in those times touched our heart...because those feelings were genuine...and passionate...Ahem's love or hate touches your heart...because his feelings are from heart 😳

Munni, excellent points. Love is a feeling in your heart and an expression through your actions. It doesn't need to be said in words and you don't need to convince yourself of your feelings of love. Jigarji's love does not come across as real and he shows no passion in his actions or behavior to convince us that he is in love. We don't feel that he has been consumed by this agonizing yet sweet fire of love.

WOW ... everyone that was just great. You have really made me think about jigar.

Originally posted by: Aymee

Wow, excellent post Aris. I have to say you have opened my eyes about Jigar and made an excellent point.

I especially agree with about Jigar leaning on Rashi and seeking comfort when the family were seperating. I was thinking the same thing also when I saw that scene. He too should have been giving comfort to Rashi because she (and Gopi) were taking items and returning it back to the ones who gifted them. In his point of view, he should have asked her atleast how she was doing and how she was feeling about all this. Jigar did nothing of that sorts and I was surprised.

Yes, a person in love thinks about the feelings of his partner first and then his/her own feelings. In Jigarji's case, he looked for solace from Rashi but offered her none. Are those actions of a person who is supposed to be head over heels in love with her?

Jigar not being love with Rashi explains a lot for me and now after reading your post, I am wondering now if Rashi is aware of that. She must be thinking Jigar is only showing this affection because she is his wife. Sure, he doesn't have to show all this effection to her even after she got caught with her actions but still, I have a feeling Rashi might be aware of Jigar's true feelings towards her.

In my humble opinion, Rashi doesn't really care if Jigarji loves her or not. I don't think she has ever thought about it. At least CV's have never shown her mulling over it. All she cares about is the Modi name and prestige, being married to Jigarji can give her. I don't think she thinks beyond that. She notices that Jigarji is physically attracted to her and runs away from him every time he tries to get close to her. We don't see her looking disturbed and questioning if Jigarji is doing it out of love for her or just because she is his wife and she is there. While she looks flattered at his attention, her top priority seems to be how fast she can get away from him. Now, if somehow, her mother plants it in her mind that if she doesn't reciprocate Jigarji's physical advancement, her role as a Modi bahu will be in jeopardy, I am sure she will change her tune soon without questioning Jigarji's true feelings. I don't think she is much bothered about how Jigarji feels. At least the CV's have never shown that in her behaviour.

@ Harini, your comparison with Dhawal and Kinjal was right on the spot with Rashi and Jigar. I couldn't have agreed with you more on that one.

@ Munni, your comment here was correct:

he repeatedly tells himself and his mind that he loves her... for true love you need not remind that you love your wife ... it is a feeling which stays in your heart...

I agree with you 100%. When it comes to love you shouldn't be reminding yourself because it will come naturally to you from your heart.

Shaun, still waiting for your comments. I know Jigarji is not the toast of the town these days, but what do you think?