Letting go is the hardest thing to do...

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"Letting go it's the hardest thing you can do as a parent. You have to settle with the
past, engage in the present and believe in the future" - Cheaper By the Dozen


Hello , I am guessing that most have forgotten me by now since I had disappeared in the middle lolll... but not to worry cuz Aaliya is back ... well at least for today and shall disappear again cuz her stupid god damn finals are on grrr lolll... Anyways, I was just randomly browsing through the forum and I saw some very interesting topics, along with our brilliant OS, FF, SS that we usually find in the forum.. ... haha finally I say that we have something worthwhile to discuss, hence people have started discussion posts again... in the middle with the drag and what not roflll no one had any thing else to talk about... hence only our brilliant os/ff/ss writers and news sharers saved this forum and actually saved it pretty well... I mean 2nd... two weeks in a row.. *a standing ovation* on my behalf! You guys are truly the gems of this forum... can't tell you guys how much we appreciate your works!!!

Anyways, enough of my blabber back to that amazing quote that touched me personally in so many levels... reading some of the posts I felt that some people were frustrated by the behna lack of convo right now... loll if you still remember yours truly you might remember me as a behna lover whose love slowly dissipated cuz of the brilliant way the cvs handled their track over time but in retrospect let's just say that the way they have started handling their show again in the last 2 weeks or so, I am starting to fall back in love with EHMMBH. This post is aiming to justify the actions taken by both the sisters in this current situation and also hopefully the intention of the cvs (though I am doubtful about their intentions half the time myself loll)... This is NOT, let me repeat NOT, me trying to tell other fans that they should not be frustrated about the behnas not having convos cuz I want them to have some too... but it is just a means to look positively at what now seems to be quite hopeless... roflll as a VirMan fan banging my head on the cvs fb wall for the past 6 MONTHS... trust me when I tell you I think we sympathize with you the most... I mean we have had 2 weeks and 4 days (the maximum.. if I remember correctly) pass by without any interaction or even mention of each other for VirMan... behnas haven't talked in like a week almost I believe, so I understand the frustration! Okieee back to my post... lolll I write a LOTTT... so warning

From my initial interpretation of the JeeMan bond, it is like the saying for Kkusum, ek aam ladki ki khaas kahani... instead here it is ek aam BOND ki special kahani... Jeevika and Manvi are different from others because to them their worlds start and end on each other. When they are together, they don't need anyone else and when they are with others, they don't need to show that they need each other because they are pretty much the same person.. do jism ek jaan type things. That's why even in the Hua Kya Hua sequence (which I must say the cvs bruttaly murdered... ughhh) Manvi was only thinking about Jeevika and Jeevika looking for Manvi.

I personally felt that the last hug between Manvi and Jeevika was one of the most symbolic moments of the show and foreshadowed what is happening currently. It is the concept of the whole letting go of your love to let the one you love live in happiness, and this act of letting go is happening from the side of both sisters and thus there is a lack of convo right now. The hug spoke volumes to me because it was the last moment the sisters will have before facing the bitter truth of Manvi's cancer... Manvi not wanting to let go and then Jeevika being confused and then Manvi running back and leaving in a matter of seconds showed the difficulty through which the sisters are having to let go of each other... not only in that one farewell scene but in general. Manvi not calling Jeevika right now is justified to me only and only for that reason. That was in her mind her final good bye! This girl's world revolves around her di and she cannot face her right now. Cuz if we recall the wedding and medicine incidents whenever Manvi got sick she would avoid that topic and sometimes even run away from the situation. Manvi is positive about beating cancer, but deep down inside she is scared, as seen by many of her crying scenes. In her washroom scene she said that she can live dying with cancer but she can't see her sister devastated cuz of it... her sister means more to her than her OWN LIFE! Manvi is ignoring Jeevika for the most part because she doesn't want her to be dependent on Manvi cuz she will be devastated with the news of cancer and if god forbid anything were to happen to her she would literally die as well... but sadly Manvi herself finds that she can't do anything without Jeevika... hence called her to distract herself... But then through the hair convo she realized that even now for Jeevika... Manvi is involved for every small thing... thus now Manvi is trying to distance herself... Manvi BELIEVES IN THE FUTURE BUT SHE IS HESITANT TO INVOLVE JEEVIKA IN HER BELIEF BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THAT IF JEEVIKA IS INVOLVED AND SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN TO MANVI IN THE FUTURE... SHE WILL BE DEVASTATED... THUS MANVI IS DISTANCING HERSELF TO CUSHION JEEVIKA FROM PERHAPS LOSING HER IN THE FUTURE! That is what is so special about the sisters for me... every small little thing they do is linked to one another... many times subconsciously rather than consciously... which is what makes is special and divine for me! Now in the process of trying to distance herself Manvi is becoming more reliant on Virat, hence a plus for VirMan lovers... FINALLY... roflll... anyways back to the sisters... Jeevika's action is also justified. In the honeymoon fiasco I initially was sad about the lack of JeeMan convo but then I was perfectly fine with it the moment I realized that Jeevika is doing this not to only live happily with Viren but also because she wants Manvi to be independent. She was beyond happy when she found out that Manvi learnt house chores and cooking... she wants her little baby sister to grow up! And that is what she is doing now as well... JEEVIKA IS ENGAGING IN THE PRESENT (I wrote presence and no one corrected me... roflll sab so rahe ho kya?? lolll) AND LETTING MANVI GET USED TO LIVING WITHOUT HER SO THAT SHE CAN HERSELF DO SOMETHING WITH HER OWN LIFE INDEPENDENTLY!

Thus, to me both sisters' actions right now in not engaging with one another is justified... if this is the intention of the cvs that is! That being said, I completely sympathize with the want for more JeeMan on-screen scenes... but I guess the only thing we can do is hope... and I am sure that there will be TONS of scenes where they will both recall the past and build new memories (SETTLE IN THE PAST... roflll this quote actually had no purpose in this sentence but I am one who likes to use all my arguments... =P)... Anyways, let me clarify again this is not a post to tell others to stop complaining... please do so to your heart's content... this is just to aid them in the time of bust so that we can be all excited for the boom period which is to come very soon. As a VirMan fan I know this feeling of despair a bit too wel... damn I am bringing VirMan in again loll =P

PS: LOLL everyone who knows or remembers me... better give me a round of applause for mentioning VirMan like twice in this post... you know that it is a HUGE accomplishment for me not to go on a tangent about them =P... see my behna love is actually returning!!! Haha... ohh and another thing I keep reading comments an posts that people are calling VirMan fans spammers... with all due respect (1) don't generalize... cuz that makes ALL virman fans angry... I for one hate spamming BUT if I am dragged into something unnecessarily I start taking things personally =P, (2) these so called spammers are the ones who increased our rank in IF to the position of 2 and has kept it there for the past two weeks... so instead of making sarcastic remarks about them or their work, we should be thankful to them.. no?... (3)... Don't assume that just because I am a hardcore VirMan fan, I am justifying the lack of behnas for the sake of VirMan... I am known to speak my mind whether it is in favour or against VirMan ;)... so instead of being judgmental... if you decide to read my jumbo post be open minded =D ohhh and finally (4) If you are INCAPABLE of having a discussion and are just interested in bashing please do yourself a favour and click the back button and ignore this post from hence forward... To the rest... all discussions are most welcome... I am amidst exams so will try to reply as soon as I get some time!!!


Cheers,
Aaliya

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ParthKiBabe thumbnail
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now THIS is what Real Analysis of the CURRENT situation means! hats off to you AA!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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hey dear...firstly...brilliant post... Mature and sensible vocabulary...nd awesome points...!!!!

Its not tht all people thnk alike…nd also its not rght to assume all people to agree to u always….In this HUGE world…every one has an opinion….it varies…nd India forums…is where we all let out our varied opinions nd discuss….

Now my above gyaan…was a compliment to ur writing nd post - where u let out ur opinion in the most amazing…mature way….nd also not hurting any fan group…directly or even indirectly….agree neither Jeevika nor manvi are wrong….its easy for virikians(including me )to blame manvi….nd for Virmans to blame jeevika….but the entire fault is of the makers….!!!!

Also i guess u were on the EHMMBH official page...nd lady ur posts there too were bang on...just like rght now...!!!

Secondly...obviously the spamming ponit was directed to me ...so i will copy paste wht i had replied on my post -

Originally posted by Eyes-Wide-Shut

I guess partly it's the fault of members like me who choose to remain silent and rarely create a topic or comment on it. I think every fan has a right to voice their opinion, so if they want more romantic scenes I don't think we can blame them. I think what we can change is to make the silent members more active and then we can get a variety of topics like the ones you have mentioned in your topic.

Also I feel bad calling everyone spammers, they are just voicing their opinion albeit a bit aggressively.

And here was my reply -
Its not abt voicing their opinion...its the way they voice...it...i am not saying they shouldn't...But it shouldn't be limited to just tht….there should be variety…with serious discussion topics…there should be…fun topics….nd lame topics too….!!!!
And my post only says tht this forum misses gud discussion topics!!

Spamming…is not wrong….but only spamming is not fun either….also…I highly appreciate the writers on the forum…who write such amazing…Oss FFs SSs…nd the ones whom I follow know it well…..But…the show has a lot more…thn this…

I am not against spamming...Virmans dun spam...they only chat in their appreciation thread...nd for goodness sake why will i have a pbm with tht...Spammers point was to those who post repetitive pics... lame spoilers...just to increase their posts number...!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Great post Aaliya, I don't usually like to post on IF, but couldn't refrain from posting here :)

I agree with your analysis about the Behnas, and would like to add just one more thing. It is true that this show is about the beautiful and unique bond shared between the two sisters, but that doesn't mean that the way to show that bond is for them to talk to each other all the time, especially with Jeevika married now. Initially we saw Manvi calling Jeevika all the time post Virika wedding, but then with time she realized she needed to give that space to her Di, especially after she found out about her cancer, and secondly when she overhead Viren being upset about Jeevika worrying about Manvi all the time. Just because they aren't talking 24/7 doesn't mean they don't love each other anymore the way they do.

The real concept of the show actually is how the bond between the two sisters will stay intact and strong even with all the changes and hurdles in their lives. If we notice, since the beginning of the show, every track always ends up revolving around the sisters and their love for each other. Be it Virika's wedding or Inder Chachu's standing on his own feet track. Even now this Virat-Maya track and later Cancer & VirMan love track would end up about the sisters too.

For us to understand and enjoy the concept of the show and the Behna's love for each other, we need a lot of patience and understanding :) This show has a long way to go and I'm sure the CV's won't let us down where these two sisters are concerned.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Hey al, have not been in IF for a looong time now and not in a mood to discuss shows as there are more serious things in life to discuss lmao...but whatever... your post brought me here...had to say loved reading it.

I guess for some people, they get no rest without instigating and starting fights by indirectly calling names and such to other people...a piece of advice to them ...live and let live...don't like something somebody posts? Ignore and quit acting like intellectuals if u were one, u wouldn't be here sitting and discussing daily soaps lmao
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I also back after so long in IF and didn't really know what actually happened here but I m commenting based on this post... Loved the analysis Aaliya

I truly agree with you Aaliya😊, the behna's bond is being felt again. What I truly want is the strong scenes that depicts and strengthens their bond not juz showing them together for the sake of showing. One good example was the letter scene, although Jeeman were not together but every word described Manvi's love for Jeevika. This is what makes the show unique, the main reason I was attracted to this show.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Aaliya u r too great. liked what u have written :)
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First of all, great post Aaliya. :) Even though I might not agree with you on some points, just the maturity level of your post makes it easier to read with a calm mind and discuss in a civilized manner. Okay even if for a second I agree it's the intention of the CVs to not engage the sisters with each other, what would explain the fact that they can't even spare each other a thought in their entire day? The sisters who claimed to not being able to live without each other now sometimes don't even think of each other- there is nothing extraordinary about that bond. I am sorry but I believe that the sisters and their bond needs to be shown consistently- their restlessness for each other and everything should be gradually built and not be thrown upon in one single scene and then be forgotten about for the next god only knows how many weeks- that ruins the magic and purity of the bond that they claimed to show. How would you feel if they showed Virman confession out of the blue without showing them gradually falling for each other? Something similar is happening here- suddenly in one episode the behna love starts oozing and pouring out and then for the next few weeks, the behnas are not even shown thinking about each other. I could write more but I'd be repeating myself so it'd better if you just read my reply in the topic Tara mentioned in her post.

Secondly, if "Spammers" was the only thing you could pick out from Tara's post then perhaps you need to go read that post again. There was much more to it than just that spammer bit, in fact, Tara didn't even mention the spammer part in her opening post. It was in the subsequent comments that everyone started talking about that. It was a very sensible post appreciating the other two topics and in no way did Tara talk of the spammers in bad light. She made it clear many times that there is nothing wrong with that but there need to be some discussion topics too and she was happy to see some. Moreover, she wasn't pointing at all the Virmanians when she said that so I don't see why everyone got so worked up- she was talking about the people posting the spoilers, articles, pictures etc. again and again which lead to no healthy discussions. Perhaps, you should check that topic out again. 😳

I hope nothing in my post offended you.
Edited by ..Omniscient.. - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rach-dc

Hey al, have not been in IF for a looong time now and not in a mood to discuss shows as there are more serious things in life to discuss lmao...but whatever... your post brought me here...had to say loved reading it.


I guess for some people, they get no rest without instigating and starting fights by indirectly calling names and such to other people...a piece of advice to them ...live and let live...don't like something somebody posts? Ignore and quit acting like intellectuals if u were one, u wouldn't be here sitting and discussing daily soaps lmao



@Underlined:- Excuse me, don't you think that's a bit too hypocritical? How about I say the same to the TM and you? If you didn't like the 'spammer' bit in some other post, you could have easily ignored it and not talked about at all in this post, couldn't you? Of course I am not saying the TM shouldn't have mentioned it here at all, she has all the right to, but I was just saying why this sentence came across as hypocritical to me. 😳 Moreover, it would be great if you actually go check out that topic before commenting on everyone like that. That topic did not say spamming is 'bad' or that 'virmanians are spammers' so I don't see why everyone is getting offended. As I told Aaliya, the spamming bit was for the numerous topics on the same articles, spoilers, pictures etc, be it on Virman or Virika.

@Red:- Now that was downright mean and offensive. Hun, no one is 'acting' like intellectuals. We are just discussing in a healthy manner. If you think discussing a show means we have nothing serious to discuss in life then so be it, no one can change your thinking, albeit it's wrong. But how about you try and be a bit nicer, just what you expect from others? Just because people are discussing a daily soap doesn't mean they're 'acting like intellectuals', God bless your thinking! Do you mean the TM is acting like an intellectual as well? Again, I can smell hypocrisy in this comment.

I definitely didn't mean to offend you by anything in this post so pardon me if I did, I just wanted to clear a few things. 😳
Edited by ..Omniscient.. - 13 years ago
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Awesome post Aaliya! Hats off to you and couldn't agree more!

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