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Posted: 13 years ago

#31

Originally posted by: pigbelly4myfeet

Hi, sorry to jump in, but I disagree here. Actually, I thought the song choice was what made this act even more creative. I don't really see what the problem is with classical being done on unconventional songs. :S I don't think Geeta "murder(ed)" the classical dance forms at all. On the contrary, in fact, I thought she gave it a creative twist. It's a challenge, I think, to choreograph classical on a Bollywood song. In a way that the audience can understand and connect with it also. So it can reach out to the masses. I think it's brilliant. The way Geeta choreographed all the classical mudras/footwork/dance steps/spins...and just the classical "adayein"...like that "Mohini" walk and stuff...every step just went with the music and the lyrics. It wasn't gimmicky...you know what I mean? It wasn't like Geeta was purposely trying to show off a classical style and wrecked it by not making it fit with the song. The choreography felt natural and fresh for this act. I was very impressed with Geeta's creativity. And of course, the amazing flare, confidence, style and elegance with which Abhik performed. 👏

And it's Abhik not Aveek. 😊

thanks, although bongs write both avik and aveek. anyways.

There are a lot of songs around which are classical based with modern arrangements and geeta can use them too, but no she always has to use some songs which are as far removed from classical forms as possible. Sorry i mostly feel she murders the dance forms with her song choices. She tries too hard to make it unconventional and in the process ends of loosing the grace of the dance form. It was avik who saved the act. if it was someone less profficient, it could have turned bad.

Anyways, we already established we have very different choices and tastes. So let me keep to mine and you keep yours.

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nilu215

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Posted: 13 years ago

#32

paul - same old same old...paul, now would be a good time to get out of dharmesh's shadow & create an identity of your own...spare us the dumb props & the same style week after week...

rajasmita - just love this girl...versatile & consistent...does every style with so much ease...nandu, if there's fairness in the world (of zee tv), then you should be in the finals girl!

abhik - loved him on saturday, not on sunday...tries something new all the time...some times it doesn't work, but then he comes back with a bang the next time :-)

geeta - not sure who is choreographing your team this season, but let me tell ya - he/she is a keeper :-))

mohena - meh!

sanam - meh meh! your p(n)ya-p(n)ya-p(n)ya dance hurt my eyes...and ears too!

vaibhav - meh meh meh!! and vaibhav, stop winking at the end of each act...looks cheap & lewd...not cool man :-X

remo - these are good dancers, please utilize them well...and just to let you know, we all have eyes, your saying "now that's..." doesn't really make it THAT good, ya know! also while i am at it - MJ band to sanam & mohena BUT not yet to abhik/rajasmita/sneha g./pradeep?? - you gotta be kidding me! :-X

raghav - glass-act was good, a lil bit of slo-mo is ok (it's your signature after all), BUT i hope you are learning new stuff for the upcoming episodes...i get bored with repetation very easily ;-)

pradeep - you are sooo good, is there something you can't do?? no, really? love you...

neerav - you remind me of aamir khan...i still haven't formed an opinion about you...give me some time, ok? :-)

sneha g. - to be honest i didn't like you initially (i only liked sneha k. from TKT-girls)...but you are growing on me like {insert something good here} ...your aerial act felt like an atrist's making soft brush strokes in the air...put a smile on your face sweetheart & charm the public - i have no idea why they won't vote for you...ughh :-X

piyali - same as sneha g...i was biased against you because you were selected instead of sanchita...but week after week you blow me away with beautiful acts...way to go girl!

varun - sob sob...wish you all the best...hope life gives you all those things that DID hasn't given you :-(

terrence - i think you have started giving out more elaborate comments...i hope you know that we really appreciate that...one-liners from you doesn't satisfy us...and thank you for mentoring the girls to such levels...you have compelled me to change my mind about them...thanks!

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gilmores

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Posted: 13 years ago

#33

Originally posted by: pigbelly4myfeet
Yeah me too...I'm also tired of criticizing this guy now. I think the main problem for me with this hip-hop act of his...was that he wasn't having fun. It was BOTHERING me. Because this is SUCH a fun, crazy song yaar. How can ANY dancer not want to go all out and be crazyyy dancing on such a song? To me, if you can't go all out and dance on THIS song, then you've got a lot to work on. Sanam needs to build his personality before anything else...so that he doesn't seem confused in his performances. Yeah really Patti Rap is THE craziest, funnest song around..it was quite the craze back in the 90's..ARR's genius..I know what you mean that he was held back on THIS song which is just not done.

I dunno yaar...I don't agree somehow. I've never been too impressed with Remo's choreography in general so maybe I'm biased that way. But all of Terence's hip-hop acts also are always better choreographed than Remo even though Remo is supposedly the hip-hop "expert". Even when these two performed lyrical hip-hop on stage...I remember this from last season...I preferred Terence's dancing style. Remo is repetitive with his dance steps I find. Plus Remo doesn't have Terence's ability to express and perform so...*tubelight moment here* I dunno why but I though you were talking about the way TL and Remo themselves do hip-hop and not from a choreography standpoint. 😆 Hence the TL is far more graceful, flowy, expressive while Remo is more crisp and I was thinking of the lyrical hip-hop from last year as well 😆 Choreography wise..hmm..well I've always thought Terence is much better than either Remo or Geeta in this regard. His creativity is on another level really (it was on display yesterday again). The moments he captures are just beautiful. His passion has always been more apparent as well. He's really just in it for pure love of DANCE. Those are some of the things I admire the MOST about TL.

Did you watch today's episode then? I thought Raghav was pretty good with a romantic act. He showed maturity. His and Sneha's was my favourite performance of the day...in an otherwise blahh episode. I did..I liked that act too..I loved the choreography, the love/memories, the moments Terence showed..beautiful song selection. I especially loved the moment Remo pointed out. Raghav-Sneha make a good team as well. I'd like to see more of this jodi. Basically put the best part of the episode was Terence's creativity only for me 😆 But out of all the performances, I liked Pradeep-Varun's act best 😳 It was just SO innovative and beautifully shown..though Varun messed up a little bit..but still I really liked it. Notice the only mistake Geeta could point out was that they left the connectivity for a split second. 😕😆 Neerav-Piyali's act was visually very appealing..but it was a little too umm..weird?abstract? like a little too creative you know?? zyada samaj mein nahin aaya.. I thought they were a bug and its prey. But I'm not sure here..😕 I wish somebody explained it..Yesterday dancing wise was toh okay only. Overall concepts zyada ache the..difficulty level bhi thi some acts mein but the whole overall theme of connectivity was kinda dumb. I didn't even understand the point of it really.

I KNOW! Totally. Such a flirty song on a shareef sa looking kid. lol I loved Abhik's flirty side too. He was so awesome! The way he was just having fun with it all. Totally awesome! THIS is how you have fun with a fun song..poor Abhik gets left behind on Sundays though :( His duets aren't his best work..Geetaa help him heree!
Yeah, Terence def. took a risk there. I guess he overestimated Neerav's ability in this department. lol Oh well, I still like the fact that he's always challenging his contestants...giving them something new...and taking risks. That's what sets him apart from the other two mentors. Except for Geeta this season with Abhik. She's been awesome with him. Definitely..I get the feeling ki TL knows Neerav is probably not the strongest in his team but he didn't hesitate to give him something new instead of the same old charming waale contemporary acts...it was a risk and sadly it didn't pay off. Hopefully next week is better. Geeta really has surpassed my expectations with Abhik. Did I ever think Abhik would be one of my favs? no..definitely not.. heck I never thought I would even have a favorite this season. 😆

Yeah her family background is so interesting...but sadly she, as a contestant, just isn't. Yeah her parents did have that royal aura...lol. Unfortunately. I think Remo needs to help Mohena build a personality here...and help SHOWCASE it..Vaibhav's confidence level is down for some reason. Remo needs to help him with that as well. Stop going gaga over Sanam. I agree with my mom here..Remo just doesn't do very good work with girls. He doesn't know how to make them shine as much. Bhavna is really the only RKR girl that was very good.

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Pallavi

@pigbelly4myfeet

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Posted: 13 years ago

#34

Originally posted by: Tannistha

thanks, although bongs write both avik and aveek. anyways.
There are a lot of songs around which are classical based with modern arrangements and geeta can use them too, but no she always has to use some songs which are as far removed from classical forms as possible. Sorry i mostly feel she murders the dance forms with her song choices. She tries too hard to make it unconventional and in the process ends of loosing the grace of the dance form. It was avik who saved the act. if it was someone less profficient, it could have turned bad.
Anyways, we already established we have very different choices and tastes. So let me keep to mine and you keep yours.

Oh they do? Ok then, sorry my bad.

Arey, when did we "establish" that we disagree? Why be so closed off? We might just agree sometime...you never know. :P Besides, I think it makes for good discussion when we differ in opinions. :P

Anyways, I'd really like to know if you can give an example of what you call "classical based with modern arrangements" since you feel so strongly about this. I am quite curious. I honestly just don't get it, I really don't. HOW was Geeta "murdering" classical dance forms now? Did she not get the posture right? The mudras right? The expressions right? The feel right? Isn't sensuality and "enticing" a part of many classical acts? Abhik was similarly showing that "flirty" side of his. And Geeta's intention wasn't to CHEAPEN the act. It was simply to show a different side of Abhik's in a FUN, lighthearted way. What's wrong with a little sense of humour? I think it's the best way of reaching out to a mass audience. Sense of humour gets through to everyone. Well, most people anyways. This was like one of the rare times, I saw a spark of creativity in Geeta's choreography.

Actually, Geeta is quite good at this. I remember her season one "jooma chumma" kathakali piece too. Did you think that was "murdering" the dance form too? I thought that was genius.

Only in season two, that Binny-Amrita "you're my love" act is what I would say butchering the classical form. Because that was what you'd call "trying too hard". You can always tell when the intentions are genuine. In this case, Geeta's intentions were to humour, and entertain WHILE showing classical dance steps. I don't see anything wrong with that. Is showing classical forms in an "entertaining" manner "butchering" them? Geeta wasn't trying to "show off" a classical style here. She really wasn't trying to make it "unconventional" also in this case. She was just going with the flow and trying something new. I didn't see anything wrong with that.

Why is there this idea that classical acts have to be intense and serious all the time? So the song choice is really what you had a problem with right? But that is just the music piece. The ESSENCE of the classical dance forms wasn't disturbed.

I honestly think it's a talent to be able to reach out to the masses through a form like classical because I honestly believe that people in India loosing interest in classical dancing these days. These kinds of act make watching classical acts refreshing. I wanted to do those classical steps to that song after watching this act myself. 😆 And now, whenever I listen to this song, I shall think of these classical steps only. That's the sign of a great choreography when the dance steps feel NATURAL to the music...and you remember those exact steps to the music each time you listen to it again.

I don't think Geeta was even trying to "modernize" classical or anything either. She wasn't consciously trying to set a trend that 'oh yeah let us all just do classical on bollywood songs from now on'. I don't think that was her intention. She was just having fun, experimenting. I think we live in an era of trying new things. Combining old with the new in an attempt to reach out in a creative way. So in that sense Geeta took a challenge with trying to choreograph classical steps on the last song you'd expect to see classical dance on. 😆 And it made for a very fun and refreshing act.

And, man, you can "keep" to your opinions of course. Who am I to "stop" you from them? 😕 I am just "bhaisa bhoosing" for discussion's sakes. What fun is there in sticking to your own opinion anyways? Wouldn't you rather someone challenge them and make you think? Anyways, if you'd rather not discuss...then that's fine with me. :)

And heyyy at least we agree that Abhik was awesome. :P There...we agreed on something. :O *shakes hands to congratulate* :P :P

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Pallavi

@pigbelly4myfeet

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Posted: 13 years ago

#35

Himani...WORD on what you said about Sunday's episode. I had ditto thoughts too.

But LMAO at you thinking that the Piyali-Neerav performance was a bug catching its prey. 🤣 Ok maybe they really should've explained this concept. LOL I'm not laughing at your interpretation by the way...that could totally be it too...just the fact that neither of us understood the concept. 😆 I toh thought of it as two aliens in love or something. LOL And that cloth thing represented some alternative atmosphere on another planet or something. lol...Umm yeah I dunno. 😆

Anyways, what I did like though was how the cloth bits were timed to the music. I liked how Terence used the beats in the music timed with the raising of the cloth and making little kinks in the cloth etc. Though dance steps wise, I wasn't too impressed either. lol I guess I found the concept interesting though to an extent. *shrugs* Like you said, it was visually interesting..though yeah maybe a little too creative. 😆

Anyways, yeah that Pradeep-Varun act was very creative. Word on Terence's creativity being the best thing about this episode. I liked that idea of the sand "blowing"...I thought the dance steps to show that idea were well done. Even things like the rain drops and the effect they had on that sand. Varun and Pradeep did well with showing that "connect" and showing that "thirst". Yeah Varun was off in bits I guess that's why the overall act wasn't perfect...but it was still worth watching. Certainly much better than most of the other acts of this episode. I'm totally going to miss watching Pradeep and Varun dance together.

Waisse, I just think it's so creatively challenging for a dancer to do something like pretend that you're a "grain of sand" you know? Like that ice dance for example...it may have been physically challenging...but it wasn't creatively challenging in any way! Rajasmitha and Paul hardly even had to do much besides "slide" on the ice. How is that even "dancing" really??? You're not even really emoting much. You're not really expressing much (through your body or your face) and expressing is really the point of dance isn't it?

And yeah word on what you said about that ice thing not even showing any "connect". :S Oh yeah, Remo and Geeta were totally being petty with that "lack of connect" criticism. 😕 Oh no...they weren't TOUCHING for a split second! I guess that means there was no "connect". What bakwas. Both of Remo's acts were so half baked. It's like he thinks once he has a great idea...chalo I guess that finishes the job. But you have to carry it through also. Actually CHOREOGRAPH that idea also. I liked both of his ideas...the Namakhalal one and the "getting tied up in relationships" one...but these ideas didn't come across through dancing. He hardly had anything to show. Same with Geeta. For her Abhik-Rajasmitha act...that prop was such a hindrance. Most of the time was used up with Abhik and Rajasmitha trying to get adjusted with the prop instead of feeling the music, and DANCING...or getting into that moment. And that dumb ice dance...toh don't even get me started on that. Yeah, too bad Abhik's potential is being wasted in his duets.

Oh I loved the Raghav-Sneha act too...they did make a good pair na? :)) I gushed about this performance enough in another thread. lol I wanna see more of these two dancing. Another pairing I enjoyed from TKT after Sneha-Pradeep and Pradeep-Varun. 😆 Oh and Pradeep-Raghav are great too. lol.

Oh and I love you for your Terence-gushing/appreciation. 🤗😆 I also think he's the only master who always seems to be in the game for the love of DANCE before anything else. You know, I can totally picture this guy just listening to various music pieces and coming up with this stuff. With Geeta and Remo, I feel like they would go the other way. Like first try to think of a "cool" sa concept/prop and then try to fit it in any song randomly/in a haphazard way. Whereas Terence really seems to LISTEN to his music before doing anything else. Waisse did you see that article of his with breaking the guiness world record and all? I liked that "ABCD" quote of his. lol "Anybody can dance"...I do think he can make anybody dance, really. lol

Anyways, so while we're on this topic...I was watching the TKT opening performance from the first episode:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koPQibxx8s[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4koPQibxx8s

And MAN can he dance or what. 😆 Choreographer toh hai hi, but I love watching him dance also. His opening dance also was the most creative out of the three teams. His dance steps were just so much fun. 😆 I love the song choices too. lol

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