wow indeed a lot of hardwork you have put in writing this post... if you don't mind please don't take it personally ( i am not saying this about you but some of my experience on this forum has been very bad thats why i am saying this ) i would to like to give my opinion where i differ from you ๐and i hope you won't call my reply a thesis because my reply will be as long as yours infact can be more long ๐๐๐
Definitely, Rathor bcoz he is a man of principles and values.
well he is a man of principle no doubt ..he is a one man show ..who thinks the world only revolves around him and he is firm on his principles about his things , his authority everywhere but sorry to say i don't consider him man of values ...because if he has done right he has done many things wrong in his life ..forexample his one statement shattered all his values and morals to pieces that he had many women in his life ..he confessed that to Tappu he had relationships with many women and we can understand what kind of relationships he had with them the type of relationship he did with Tappu ..moreover he is a don type person who has not earned his money through right means as he was shown quite poor before ...though whatever the reason was but still this was wrong of him ..which does not belong to good morals and values ...if he changes that perhaps this child will change his thinking and make him really a true man of morals and values but right now he is little behind in this
He is tough yet gentle. He knows how to protect his family very well and nobody can speak anything against them, Daijaan or Tapu or the new baby. He had warned Satya against speaking any ill of Tapu and scolded Tapu to speak nicely to Daijaan. Unlike Jogi and Veer who used to listen quietly anything Mai or daddaji spoke against Tapu.
He even warned Pushkar against speaking any illof the new baby he had just met.
He has always respected Tapu no matter what she did, unlike Jogi and Veer who never left any oportunity to humiliate her. They never respected her. They certainly never respected either Divya or Ichcha. Look how Veer treated ichcha she had to leave him.
@bold green and red ๐ what are you trying to say here you are giving two contradicting statements here you are trying to say here rathore scolded Tappu to speak nicely to daijaan because she was wrong in not speaking to her nicely on the other hand in red you are saying veer and jogi left no oppurtunity to humilate Tappu ๐ and mai and dadajii speak ill of Tappu infront of jogi when her truth was out ..any shameful father will die in shame at that time instead of protesting and fighting with mai and dadajii how dare you say this to my daughter when he knew his daughter's acts very well ..how much trouble she had caused them ...i think every parent gets angry at their children when they are wrong so did jogi ..so where is humilation here ๐ and please do let me know at which point she didn't leave any opportunity to make jogi's head fall in shame ..if you want him to respect her after her each wrong doing not punish her then i can't say anything ...and also after so much troubles she caused to veer forcing herself on him trying to separate him from his love , separated his brother from him do you think she deserved to be loved and respected by him...๐๐๐rathore loves her ..he married her on his free will..she only cost one loss to him so far with her foolishess and she accepted that ..while in front of veer she never accepted anything whole heartedly in fact she kept on proving herself right and him wrong ..so do you think she deserved to be respected by him ๐ and i think half of the forum.. veer's almost all admirers went against him when he was busy feeding Tapu so how can you say he never respected her ๐๐๐as for jogi he forgave her so many times whenever she accepted her mistakes but most of the times it was her drama ..so situations are quite different in these three cases๐๐on respect for Tapu we cannot judge one is better than the other
as for mata ichcha running away has always been her best option when she is hurt ..she decided to leave both ammu and jogi when she came to know the truth of her father's death.๐๐๐so treament thing is not here but trust thing and ichcha was hurt by this fact veer didn't trust her why he didn't trust her? .she can't see that like she was hurt both jogi and ammu hid truth from her about her father's death ๐คฃ why they hid for that she needed veer's help to go and ask them ๐๐..in my view veer's treament with ichcha is too much soft ..he should be a little strict to her and take things in his control rather following this woman bilndly because she is not a trust worthy when where she is hiding something it need to be understood ... but here veer is a fool after spending so much time with her he is following her blindly ๐there is no need to be an obedient husband to woman like ichcha ..of course be loving and kind ...listen to her but don't follow her blindly ...use your own brain
He can take care of people like nani and Pushkar and it is impossible to make a fool of him unlike Jogi and Veer who are always been easily made a fool by nani and Pushkar. Nobody can push him to do anything, he does not want to do. Here, he is the manipulator and not manipulated unlike Jogi and Veer who are always shown to be easily manipulated by everyone and anyone.
Veer is an emotional fool ...anyone can fool him by few emotional dilaogues๐ก but rathore is supposed to be intelligent ..he knew nani so well so why did he bring her at his home ๐to make Tappu happy ..to make your love happy bring a devil to your home ๐...he knows her very well the type of woman she is... for her own meaning beta beta ..shows herself to be in full control but behind back showing her true self ...he knew very well nani and Tappu are a deadly combination so why he brought her home?๐ if we look at mai's dialogue to divya this woman will lead to some terrible disaster to your family and nani's present act will definitely lead to something bad because cvs will not end this show in a hurry so rathore has proven to be a fool here by bringing nani to his home otherwise she would be living on footpath without food and water and she would not have been able to do this present cruel act and also he did ask many questions from pushkar but what he did? he took the baby home.. good ..he didn't leave him dying there but if he keeps the baby with him without looking for parents .. so in a way he believed in pushkar's words that the baby is a left out by parents so where is suspicision senses and intelligence ?...another character will be proven a fool by cvs
Besides, Rathor does not care about relations unlike Jogi and Veer Like when he found the baby he knew that Pushkar is Tapu's mama yet he was very suspicious of him and took him to task also agar Tapu nahi stop karti Raghu ko to shayad haath hi utha deta but Jogi and Veer always think about relations whether mai or nani or daddaji or sanchi or satya what they say matter more to them rather then what is right for them or what they want. They are so undecisive Like when Veer said he wud take DNA test Mai stopped him and he simply left the matter there and then. If Rathor wud have been in his place then Uttaran kab ka khatam ho gaya hota ๐ He goes after what he wants aur use hasil karke rehta hai
@bold ..thinking about relations is not a bad thing ..listen to them ...but don't follow them blindly ..you don't need to be rude and aggressive to them..pushkar is Tappu's mama hold no relation with rathore but mai and dadajii hold relation with veer ..he can't be rude to them by holding their collar or slapping them..yes he need to make his stand point there ..no need to follow them blindly or be quiet in front of them ..in veer's case i must mention ichcha too who many times stopped him when he was about to say anything oppose their decisions by holding his hand but i would say it was wrong of him not to do anything and follow ichcha blindly and leaving things in between ...same case with jogi ..he treats nani like his mother unfortunately she never treated him like his son ..he had opposed her many times even thrown pushkar out of his house but then what he should do of his wife divya thakur whom you are saying he never respected her ๐๐rathore is a bit lucky that he don't have this type of mean , bossy family with him to make his life hell only one sweet and nice daimaa.( only one adult character in uttaran who is so adorable ๐ณsuch a sweet motherly figure she is ๐)..who respects his decisions unlike mai and dadajii to veer's or divya of jogi's but i am sure if rathore would have been in veer's or jogi's place he would have been the same like them ๐๐๐๐
Veer is a weakling, right in his face, nani used to call his wife Chuhiya with insulting slang yet he never once warned her. But Rathor would have kicked nani so hard on her butt that she would have landed on another planet ๐๐ Like he almost beat that police officer whom he had gone to see after Tapu lost the baby and the policeman had accused Tapu of being careless. Raghu lost his temper and almost hit him. Simply nobody and nobody insults his wife. No matter what.
well you are right for veer he should slap nani right hard on her face whenever she calls ichcha chuhiya but it feels really bad to see veer's character shattered by cvs in such a way ..this is the same veer of 2009 who fought with his family to marry ichcha..and stood against his dadajii showing him his true self when he came to know Tej singh is his illegimate child ..now they have made him so much speechless that he cannot say anything to nani when she calls his wife chuhiya infront of him ....
as for rathore.. at police station he has shown a double attitude ..he was continuosly insulting the officer when he pointed out it was your wife's fault for which he was 100% right he became agressive ..๐๐this is double crossing attitude it means if some day your wife comes home murdering someone if police comes to arrest her you mess up with police how dare you to come arrest my wife ๐๐๐..in fact here rathore has shown a weakness in his character like Tappu not accepting mistakes on their part in front of others while pointing fingures on others ...supporting your wife where she is right is right but going aggressive and hyper to someone if he is pointing out right mistake of your wife is blindness and weakness to accept your own flaws nothing else
One more example of his tough personality is that when he went to Bundela house to reveal Tapu's secret, this shows when he wants something he knows how to get it, he told Tapu that Veer excepted his version of the story about Tapasya this is the trust he shows in Tapu had I been in his place I would hve broken each and every bone in his body first and then I would have asked questions what is truth and what is false.
@Bold ...well it's your thinking ๐๐๐ but seeing Tappu's previous record any person would have believed rathore's words with which confidence he was saying and also ready for dna test and a second person saying Tappu's child is not veer's first ichcha said that now rathore but cvs made veer again go weak here he doubted Tappu he was right there but left things in between when mai said no for DNA test ..because they have to create this stupid baby missing drama ๐ฅฑ
So undoubtedly Raghuvendra Pratap Rathor is the best papa in Uttaran. โค๏ธ He is a good human being, he has value, he will teach his child good manners and to respect others since he hates to lie he will teach his child not to speak lies he will be stern yet love him very much he will not spoil the child yet provide every luxury he can He will be firm yet gently whenever he needs be he will make sure that nani Pushkar like elements are not there to influence his child and make sure that they be removed. Unlike Jogi, who was too weak to say anything to either nani or his wife Divya yet he punished only Tapu and left nani to her own devises to do as she wished with his only daughter which proved to be fatal for the entire family. Raghu understands human nature very well and can manipulate the situations to suit his purpose. Look, how he changed Tapasya with great patience and his love and the way he handled her with sensitivity and yet firmly.
@bold i don't t understand how through above all you proved rathore is best papa ๐because above all what you have written it only proves rathore is strong man nothing else ๐rathore does not have some extra morals and values more than veer and jogi ๐as a human being they too are very good ...kind hearted , loving and caring , true .selfless while rathore is a bit selfish ๐๐because he wants the world only around him ๐๐๐as for fatherly thing i think right now they both are at equal level..๐if rathore is kind to veecha's baby veer is kind to kahna and mukhta ...both have burried their briancells in some grave about mukhta and veecha's baby that parents left them not thinking of anything else ...lets see if rathore makes any effort or not to find the parents but present conditons don't show any sign to it ..so both came in one league...๐both will teach good morals to children .hopefully .not making them egoless or egoistic idiots but good human beings ...both have villians in their ways nani and mai gang because i have a fear mai will take a palti now as chanda will fuel her mind against kanha and muktha ...and nani we know her so well ...๐กlets see how it is being handled ..as for jogi poor jogi ...he is extremely kind hearted father ..and i think his too much kindness resulted into bad in his family...๐ญ
no offence ...extremely sorry for long post... was just sharing my view ..no personal feelings involved here against any character or person or actor and sorry for spelling mistakes
Edited by kikyo - 13 years ago