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Posted: 14 years ago
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hey everyone,
thanks so much for your useful input. I see all points of view very clearly, but I agree with the last couple of posts on Arnav's feelings for La. Although I don't think he is dishonest, he certainly leaves me utterly confused about his treatment towards La. Let's take Khushi out of the picture for a second. I am not sure how Lavanya finds her relationship with Arnav the least bit satisfying. He is always talking down to her, almost to the point of being abusive (remember that one scene where he grabbed her elbow and yelled at her simply because she interrupted him). There is not the slightest affection towards her when he speaks to her. When she calls him all worried, he says, "I am busy". He clearly has no feelings for which makes me wonder why he is with her in the first place. I am not sure why Lavanya is giving her 100% to make this relationship work when he doesn't even speak to her with love or affection. Is she with him for the money? for his name? I jus don't see a foundation for their relationship. They never hang out, talk on the phone, let alone get physical. I just find it strange...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hi Angelina ... good post and good arguments.
Why do we hate Shyam and want Arnav with Khushi? I think the fact that Shyam has based his entire presence in Khushi's household on lies, puts him completely in the wrong straightaway. I am willing to accept that a married man can stray, that he can fall in love with another woman ... we don't know the circumstances under which Shyam and Anjali got married, we just found out that he apparently only married her for her money ... but even if he had married Anjali for love, and fell out of love with her and in love with Khushi ... well, it makes him an adulterer, but people do fall in and out of love, that's why divorces happen. But to my mind, he has lost all sympathy not just because he's a married man, but because his entire story is based on lies ... right from the start. And he has lied not just by omission, but by intent ... Buaji asked him about his family, he mentioned mother and father but not wife, and while he had a full family living in Delhi, he said he had no place to stay. A relationship based completely on deceit and lies can't be sympathised with at all ... And now of course, he is apparently in love with Khushi, but not enough to leave his relationship with Anjali ... he wants to have his cake and eat it too. If he was in love with Khushi enough to leave Anjali, one might sympathise with him, but not now.

On the other hand, Arnav is exactly what he is ... there is no deceit in him at all. Even with La he has been frank, he doesn't want marriage, he doesn't believe in marriage, he has made her no false promises ... it's his family and now Khushi who are pushing him towards marriage, but he has always made his feelings very clear. And the reason we want Arnav with Khushi is the age old 'the love of a good woman reforming the angst-ridden hero" . Besides, live-in relationship is not as much of a committment as marriage, and the very fact that people choose to live in rather than marry, is because they don't WANT to commit to each other for life ... either because they don't believe in making that committment, or because they don't believe in the relationship enough.

Hope I made some sense!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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This is such an awesome topic! I was actually wanting to start one on the same topic...'what is considered as cheating?'

We know that Shyam is just plain deceitful and two-timing...keeping Anjali for money whilst lusting over Khushi. He knows and has acknowledged the fact that he is doing so and is finding nothing wrong with that. In addition, he is going out of his way to pursue Khushi whilst having no intention of telling Anjali that he wants to leave her.

We then have Arnav, he seems quite happy and content in his relationship- no wedding, no fuss, no emotions. This is perfect for him but he is unaware of the true extent of Lavanya's feelings...She absolutely adores him and is going through so much personal change for him. Now he is beginning to soften towards Khushi...they both have accidental moments of innocent physical contact...but when he realises that he actually enjoys Khushi's presence and these moments will he think about Lavanya and feel guilty and try to avoid such situations...

And vice versa with Khushi...her and Lavanya have become friends...how will she feel when she realises she is in love with Arnav...will she try to back off and forget about him? Will Lavanya blame her for her and Arnav's imminent break up?

Does Shyam want Khushi for her beauty or her personality?
Does Lavanya only idolise Arnav?
Does Arnav see Lavanya as more of a friend or equal?
Do Arnav and Khushi understand why they are inexplicably attracted to each other?

Really, Iss pyaar ko kya naam doon?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Wow

Thanks Doods, B and others...

i had forgotten i had even written something here and had not come back to see the replies

i am reading all the responses and will reply with additional points if i do find any..

i am sure there is not pressure!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: lovtv

@Angelina and others - great post and replies. A lot of different perspectives have been written and not much else left to say so I will keep this short (ok will try).

I find that Arnav hasn't actually been all that honest and clear about his feelings and intentions. When Lavanya put him on the spot and asked do you love me he said he did. It is clear that he doesn't and we can see he is lying. He knows he doesn't feel anything for her, she is a complete convenience for him. He is using her to keep his family at bay. He doesn't want to get married and have naani bring a barrage of women for him to "see" so what does he do...he brings LA home to keep the family busy, so that he can continue to do whatever he wants. When she cries and complains he has no time for her. When people say he has been honest about his feelings I find that he hasn't. Only thing he has been honest about is the fact that he doesn't want to get married. So as far as La is concerned she thinks he is committed to her and has given her everything except the wedding ceremony. But we know and Arnav knows he has given her nothing of himself.

I have nothing new to say about Shyam as I am disappointed in the way his character is being developed and destroyed.

Final word on why Arnav is liked and Shyam is hated. The main reason for this isn't just the men and their characters, it has a lot to do with the women they want as well. Angalie is an angel she can do no wrong so it is easier to hate on her behalf. Because she is so good people can't stand her being deceived. Meanwhile LA is not a likable character so it is easy not like her and disregard her feelings. Khushi is the protagonist and a good character so of course everyone wants to root for her.

Final final word. I like the tabla music/melody that plays when Shyam looks at Khushi. They haven't played it in a while but it is really nice.

-Shelly


@ words in bold: Me too! Love the BG music played on Khushi and Shyam - I wish they played it on Arnav and Khushi instead of Shyam. It is so melodious.

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