Does criticism break a star or make a star?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Celebs/famous people are known to get into a lot of controversy and criticism. Constructive criticism is always necessary for a celebrity/well known public figure.

My question is that for our stars/famous people in the industry now, does criticism break them or make them? Do they take criticism in a positive manner and improve upon their weaknesses? Or do they go in a corner and cry about the criticism they get?

For me criticism always MAKES a star. It should never BREAK a star.

Relating this topic to DKS, I want to say that constructive criticism always helps make a person become better. And criticism should be always taken in positive stride. Everyone will have different opinions on he same issue. Life would be so dull and boring if everyone had the same thoughts. That's just the life of being famous. If you get fans to love and praise your work, you also get those that won't love and praise your work. BUT that shouldn't by any means put you down.

So I just want to say that for those of you that thought Jai's behavior was rude and uncalled for, I'll respect your opinions on that. But please don't expect those that didn't think it was rude to side with you all that did think it was rude. There is always a proper way of stating your opinions. If giving an opinion on a dance being asking for an opinion is rude, then I'm sorry but I don't know what to say.

Let me end this post by saying that all the dancers that are in this show are in it for a reason. They all have worked hard to come to this far. That doesn't necessarily mean I like every single one of them. Let's face it, we all have our favorites. But we can't take away the credit that these dancers have really put in all their hard work, dedication, effort, love, and passion for what they are doing. All of them are fabulous dancers (I'll give them that credit). And let's no forget that this show isn't about sportsmanship or how the teams unite and stick as a team. This show is about which team showcases better dance performances overall. Both steams have strong contestants. You can't rule either team out.

Anyways coming back to the purpose of this thread does criticism make a star or break a star? What are you views.

Please note this thread is not intended for any sort of bashing of contestants.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice topic Rani and a great change of topic from the usual stuff. 8-)

I can't really speak for stars themselves but I'll speak about what almost everyone in life goes through. When maybe you're not performing so well in a subject and the day when your reports are given to you and you realise your grades are lower than what you want to achieve? Or if on parent's evening your teacher tells you that maybe you should aim for a B and not an A as it's the more 'realistic' option? From then on a student has the choice to go ahead and say 'I'm going to put in the extra hours and prove my teacher wrong that I can achieve that grade' or they can say 'If my teacher after knowing me for two years thinks it's realistic that I'm going to achieve just a B, then maybe I should aim for that instead'? For some students it'l demotivate them when they get told they aren't doing things properly and for some it'll force them to work even harder and strive for perfection.

I think the most important part of it all is the advice or constructive criticism given to you. If your mentor or dance guru tells you where you're going wrong and what the areas of improvement are then you can easily get up and work on those areas. However if they were to tell you that 'You're rubbish and not cut out for this' then it'll easily lower some people's confidence. I think it just depends from person to person. Some have the willpower to go ahead and prove their critics wrong whereas others will sit back and say 'I'm simply not good enough'.

Often it's important to have that one person believe in you and guide you when others don't have that trust in you. Constructive criticism can only help you grow but bashing is something that hurts a lot more than criticism. Anyone remember that day when Roger Federer lost to Nadal and was crying at the end? No doubt he would bounce back once he re analysed what went wrong but it's so hard to ignore the labels of 'cry baby' or 'bad sport'. Then again take a look at all the actors in Bollywood..they've been linked up to their co-stars SO many times and I guess after a while and after spending so many years in the indsutry, you simply become immune to it.

Coming back to DKS..criticism should make one stronger. It shows the ability of a dancer being able to learn from their mistakes and grow in to an even better dancer. :)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Beautiful reply! :-) I agree 201%!

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my thread! :-)
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think it depends on the person's personality on how they will react to criticism. Also, it depends on who is doing the criticizing. I agree with hindu4lyf about the teacher analogy and the student's two ways of reacting. Either they will get motivated to prove the teacher wrong, or they will get demoralized. Same thing goes with the contestants. They might get upset and not want to try that dance form again, or they might work harder at improving themselves.

Also though, it depends on the authority of the person giving the feedback. A teacher, mentor, someone who the person highly respects says something good, it means the world to the person. Also, criticism from that person usually makes the person want to improve and better themselves. Like when the judges criticize contestants. However, sometimes the contestant might not agree or be expecting the negative feedback they got, so they might question it or get upset by it.

If the person giving the feedback is another contestant or friend, then it might not have the same impact. Most people do not appreciate criticism from their peers. They do not mind hearing the good things, but if they comment something negative, then the person might get upset and argue it out. It really depends on personality though. Some people do not mind criticism from their peers too. It just depends.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Well, definitely, constructive criticism makes a star i.e if it stated in a constructive manner and if the person has been made to realize that it's for their better, but the criticisms you are referring to (that are going on in the forum presently) are in NO WAY constructive..They're just uncalled for and random. Saying that some contestant doesn't deserve to get the title he has got by thousands of people is not a constructive criticism in any manner. Don't you think so?
If we were criticizing them to help them improve, that's different. However, here, everyone is doing their own thing. I don't even know what to say anymore.

P.S- Yes, a major part of the show is about sportsmanship and team work/unity; hence, this is 1 team vs the other..and there are team performances too..in the end , the Team wins , not individual performers. Therefore, it's all about playing a team game. I like the intention you started the thread with, but in the forum, the criticism is leading to nothing , but random hatred. If there was a reason to vent, that's justified , but I don't like the fact that threads are being created to just bash each other. That's just my opinion. No offence to you in any way.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Priyanka_AAIICH

Well, definitely, constructive criticism makes a star i.e if it stated in a constructive manner and if the person has been made to realize that it's for their better, but the criticisms you are referring to (that are going on in the forum presently) are in NO WAY constructive..They're just uncalled for and random. Saying that some contestant doesn't deserve to get the title he has got by thousands of people is not a constructive criticism in any manner. Don't you think so?

If we were criticizing them to help them improve, that's different. However, here, everyone is doing their own thing. I don't even know what to say anymore.

P.S- Yes, a major part of the show is about sportsmanship and team work/unity; hence, this is 1 team vs the other..and there are team performances too..in the end , the Team wins , not individual performers. Therefore, it's all about playing a team game. I like the intention you started the thread with, but in the forum, the criticism is leading to nothing , but random hatred. If there was a reason to vent, that's justified , but I don't like the fact that threads are being created to just bash each other. That's just my opinion. No offence to you in any way.



Anyways coming back to what you stated. I feel that everyone has a right to express their opinions. And not all opinions will be pretty to hear. Look you're a Dharmesh fan and I honestly respect that as long as you respect the fact that I am not a Dharmesh fan but rather a Jai/Mayuresh fan. I agree that everything right now in this forum is leading to nothing but bashing not only of contestants but now even of members. I didn't know that when someone expresses an opinion that differs from the other opinion that this much chaos would occur. Every individual person will have a different opinion. What title are you referring? And why does it matter what people say? If you love Dharmesh and his dancing and his personality or whatever it may be why should it matter what other people have to say? You can't get everyone to like him no? But you should always keep loving and supporting him no matter what other people have to say. Having that said calling a contestant a "pig" or referencing that a person may have "mental issues" is not what I call constructive criticism at all.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Cutiepie Rani



Anyways coming back to what you stated. I feel that everyone has a right to express their opinions. And not all opinions will be pretty to hear. Look you're a Dharmesh fan and I honestly respect that as long as you respect the fact that I am not a Dharmesh fan but rather a Jai/Mayuresh fan. I agree that everything right now in this forum is leading to nothing but bashing not only of contestants but now even of members. I didn't know that when someone expresses an opinion that differs from the other opinion that this much chaos would occur. Every individual person will have a different opinion. What title are you referring? And why does it matter what people say? If you love Dharmesh and his dancing and his personality or whatever it may be why should it matter what other people have to say? You can't get everyone to like him no? But you should always keep loving and supporting him no matter what other people have to say. Having that said calling a contestant a "pig" or referencing that a person may have "mental issues" is not what I call constructive criticism at all.

😕Defending a child abuser is also a bad thing...those who defend child abusers, are putting lives of other kids at risk...because the child abuser will go and abuse another child if he is not stopped...😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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if expressing an opinion about a child is "child abusing" then i don't know what to say ankit...child abusing is such a serious issue. and accusing members of being an child abuser is just so bad, let alone a contestant.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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It makes a star. And this not cmoing just from me, it comes from one of the contestants as well. But truly, BASHING is not good. Opinions, is something else. But hey! Haters make one stronger! Nice post dear ❤️
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Originally posted by: Cutiepie Rani

if expressing an opinion about a child is "child abusing" then i don't know what to say ankit...child abusing is such a serious issue. and accusing members of being an child abuser is just so bad, let alone a contestant.

😕 Rani you might think telling a little kid who just won a contest that he didn't deserve to win and that he doesn't have any talent and that he just used his looks to win is not child abuse but many people would disagree...that is classic child abuse where the abuser is intentionally putting down a little kid and making him think he is not worth anything...what's worst about this is that Jai did this in front of the whole world...😕

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