Mistis thoughts 6th april 2011

Sorry no commentary today just some thoughts…..

Anyway lets start with Dev……….has the position of the room changed? I thought his room was on the ground floor but now it looks as if it is on the first floor……….the decoration of the room has also changed……..He is sitting by himself and moping…….Is he wary of amma? I mean maybe experience has taught him that it is no use telling anything to amma because most probably nothing will come out of it. Why look for help from a person who will only pat your head …

Liked Radhikas infectious happiness……….she thinks her 12 years of wait is over and her relief is coming out…….Although Avinash was good, it was Rubina who stood out for me………She apologises to Kanha that she did not read his messages to her….this connection she has with this guy is because of the result of their unbreakable link that Kanha has done…..Now does this link mean the khel khel main marriage or a connection between souls………from her behavior till now I think it's the marriage…

Shanti as usual is left dumbstruck at the opulence of Radhikas would be in laws…….I know that she is very excited on seeing Dev because she wants Chanda to get married to him…….but aren't you all overdoing her excitement? Today to me she almost became a caricature when she rushed to Dev and gave that beaming smile.

Now Chenu said that Dev has been brought up by this family……..but when did Dev tell them that…….I thought he just explained that the bridegroom is Rohan, the youngest grandson of the family…..or am I mistaken here?

I am not going to comment of anyone from the Purohit family because there is no use trying to make sense out of nonsense.

Now yesterday I had asked a question to the creatives about Radhika and Chanda that……..that I know that Chanda is bad and Radhika is good.........but if one keeps both the nature of these two characters aside, also don't take into consideration whom Dev likes and whether he is KK and just look at Radhikas and Chandas actions towards Dev..........are they that different? I mean Chanda liked Dev but was then pushed by her mother to go after Dev..........Radhika also liked Dev but then needed some other persons indication that he is her KK to accept Dev...........so both needed some other persons sign'…….so is Radhika different from Chanda on the basis of this action?

Today I am going to repeat this question but this time its between Dev and Rohan………again I know that Dev has been projected as being responsible and Rohan irresponsible……..Dev the mature one and Rohan the immature one……….but if again one keeps the nature of these characters aside……..and only focus on their actions………..that is getting married to some girl under someone elses dictation, then how different is Dev from Rohan? I am asking this question because one of the media segments hinted at Dev's marriage being fixed to Chanda………I don't know whether this scenario will be shown or not but just used this as an example here……

I have a reason for asking this question……….I have explained at the end of my yesterdays thread but again repeating it here……… this story has been propagated as a spiritual story and that both the protagonists will be "active"........now spiritual means that the person will follow what the heart is saying or the inner being is saying...but here they are not showing that regarding Radhika..Yes they did show today that she thanks kanha for the unbreakable link but it was not clear whether it is the soul thing here or link created by marriage as a child..... Also if Dev accepts this marriage proposal from Chanda then how different is he from Rohan by this action……The problem is that when the makers use these heavy sounding words to define a character.......the audience accepts that as the characterisation and when the characters behave differently then the audience is left confused as to what the character really is......the way he or she has been described or what is being projected on the screen.........and that sooner rather later irritates the audience and makes the emotionally withdraw from the character. I hope that the makers have thought about this issue. Now one might say that being active means that the characters can walk and talk……..now if that is what the makers meant in all the articles then it is a different matter.

Originally posted by: misti73

Sorry no commentary today just some thoughts'..I was wating for ur thoughts...here i go

Anyway lets start with Dev'''.has the position of the room changed? I thought his room was on the ground floor but now it looks as if it is on the first floor'''.the decoration of the room has also changed''..He is sitting by himself and moping''.Is he wary of amma? I mean maybe experience has taught him that it is no use telling anything to amma because most probably nothing will come out of it. Why look for help from a person who will only pat your head 'funny but true..but she will reveal of sometruth which has been keeping in her mind for yrs...she had mentioned once ..we know what is it....atleast she will do something good beside Patting...

btw Lattu Ded babu looks nice on spring color GREEN....

Liked Radhikas infectious happiness'''.she thinks her 12 years of wait is over and her relief is coming out''.Although Avinash was good, it was Rubina who stood out for me'''She apologises to Kanha that she did not read his messages to her'.this connection she has with this guy is because of the result of their unbreakable link that Kanha has done'..Now does this link mean the khel khel main marriage or a connection between souls'''from her behavior till now I think it's the marriage' Misti it is loooooooooooooooooong 12 yrs...definitly it is marriage not gudda guddu ka khel....dont worry there will be connection between souls..

Shanti as usual is left dumbstruck at the opulence of Radhikas would be in laws''.I know that she is very excited on seeing Dev because she wants Chanda to get married to him''.but aren't you all overdoing her excitement? Today to me she almost became a caricature when she rushed to Dev and gave that beaming smile.i was watching when she met Dev babu...it is disgusting to watch her smile as if she has fallen in love with HIM....ridiculous....she is some character... after long time i have seen her kind of personality in telindustry...kudos to CV...

Now Chenu said that Dev has been brought up by this family''..but when did Dev tell them that''.I thought he just explained that the bridegroom is Rohan, the youngest grandson of the family'..or am I mistaken here? it seems to me in Mansa 's family each family members excluding Radharani are fortune teller...except R is uneducated..😉even though she is a college going with scholarship girl but she doesnot try to understand anything....or i must say walnut brain....

I am not going to comment of anyone from the Purohit family because there is no use trying to make sense out of nonsense. 😆

Now yesterday I had asked a question to the creatives about Radhika and Chanda that''..that I know that Chanda is bad and Radhika is good.........but if one keeps both the nature of these two characters aside, also don't take into consideration whom Dev likes and whether he is KK and just look at Radhikas and Chandas actions towards Dev..........are they that different? I mean Chanda liked Dev but was then pushed by her mother to go after Dev..........Radhika also liked Dev but then needed some other persons indication that he is her KK to accept Dev...........so both needed some other persons sign'''.so is Radhika different from Chanda on the basis of this action... i think little bit different from chanda....chanda attracted by Devbabu's look and her mom is after money ,fame and otherhand R has some 6th sense feelings from the begining....(it is weird though )after she grownup whenever she met Dev babu...and her father is not greedy he just wants his daughter get back to his husband...and her happiness....but in one sense i agree ..they both need a big push or help whatever u say.....

Today I am going to repeat this question but this time its between Dev and Rohan'''again I know that Dev has been projected as being responsible and Rohan irresponsible''..Dev the mature one and Rohan the immature one'''.but if again one keeps the nature of these characters aside''..and only focus on their actions'''..that is getting married to some girl under someone elses dictation, then how different is Dev from Rohan? I am asking this question because one of the media segments hinted at Dev's marriage being fixed to Chanda'''I don't know whether this scenario will be shown or not but just used this as an example here''

I have a reason for asking this question'''.I have explained at the end of my yesterdays thread but again repeating it here''' this story has been propagated as a spiritual story and that both the protagonists will be "active"........now spiritual means that the person will follow what the heart is saying or the inner being is saying...but here they are not showing that regarding Radhika..Yes they did show today that she thanks kanha for the unbreakable link but it was not clear whether it is the soul thing here or link created by marriage as a child..... Also if Dev accepts this marriage proposal from Chanda then how different is he from Rohan by this action''The problem is that when the makers use these heavy sounding words to define a character.......the audience accepts that as the characterisation and when the characters behave differently then the audience is left confused as to what the character really is......the way he or she has been described or what is being projected on the screen.........and that sooner rather later irritates the audience and makes the emotionally withdraw from the character. I hope that the makers have thought about this issue. Now one might say that being active means that the characters can walk and talk''..now if that is what the makers meant in all the articles then it is a different matter.

Originally posted by: Kinara2

As far as Dev is concerned, it would be pretty lame to show him agreeing to marry Chanda ... why marry the sister of the girl you love ... i am sure he could find someone else 😉 i dont think so he will get married with Chanda...impossible...he is already married...yes he doesnot know ...but mahan CV do so many weird things...so u never know...

Originally posted by: misti73

Sorry no commentary today just some thoughts'..

Anyway lets start with Dev'''.has the position of the room changed? I thought his room was on the ground floor but now it looks as if it is on the first floor'''.the decoration of the room has also changed''..He is sitting by himself and moping''.Is he wary of amma? I mean maybe experience has taught him that it is no use telling anything to amma because most probably nothing will come out of it. Why look for help from a person who will only pat your head '

That was the first thing I noticed. Even the outside of the house is differnet from what had been shown before. I think this is Agle Janam set that now got ready for CB. To me, even Radhika's house looked different. Anyway, now Dev has windows and scenery outside. Even the living room looks different.

I think Amma's role is that of a dumb person. Look at her dialogues about Dev not telling her stuff and she finding out as she is a Daima. But then can not interpret his sadness and can not differentiate between the behavior of somebody who was extremely happy in the morning and then was extremely sad when he came back from Rawal. The whole conversation was for Amma to push Dev into marriage with Chanda. They will show Dev not wanting to get married to Chanda but Maheswari and Amma pushing him into it. They even gave a hint when Rohan said that Dev should marry on the same day and in the same mandap.

So all of Amma's looks were meant that she would be convinced about the need for Dev to get married. Nobody would ask him if he wants to marry this particular person and he would be agreeing to the proposal as it makes everyone happy. Hence that sermon by Amma yesterday.

Liked Radhikas infectious happiness'''.she thinks her 12 years of wait is over and her relief is coming out''.Although Avinash was good, it was Rubina who stood out for me'''She apologises to Kanha that she did not read his messages to her'.this connection she has with this guy is because of the result of their unbreakable link that Kanha has done'..Now does this link mean the khel khel main marriage or a connection between souls'''from her behavior till now I think it's the marriage'

Liked the conversation. Would be meaningful if they don't show her retreating back once she finds out that Dev is not the grandson. Then we can see if Radhika questions that assertion and relies on her heart that Dev has to be KK. Instead of making assumptions, she asks him about the childhood memories. Also, agree with you that khel khel marriage happened because of the connection and not vice versa. But does Radhika realize it or will let creatives let her realize that?

Shanti as usual is left dumbstruck at the opulence of Radhikas would be in laws''.I know that she is very excited on seeing Dev because she wants Chanda to get married to him''.but aren't you all overdoing her excitement? Today to me she almost became a caricature when she rushed to Dev and gave that beaming smile.

Well, I am not surprised. The expressions always have to be extreme. So the villian will always growl, the positive people would show acceptance and submission to the point that they appear dumb and self-centered, and the greedy have to look undignified in their greed. The cunning have to give a certain type of smug smile. Only then the audience can understand that these characters are good, bad, manipulative etc.

Tomorrow would be the insult day of mainly Mansaram as Shanti is immune to all the insults.

Now Chenu said that Dev has been brought up by this family''..but when did Dev tell them that''.I thought he just explained that the bridegroom is Rohan, the youngest grandson of the family'..or am I mistaken here?

Well, that was one of my questions yesterday. How do they know the name and details of Dev? When did he tell them. If I remember correctly, Mansa and Shanti were absent most of the time. He only stared at Radhika continuously. So except for Radhika, everyone knows the name. Radhika heard Mansa and Shanti's conversation, but couldn't hear Dev saying all these things.

I am not going to comment of anyone from the Purohit family because there is no use trying to make sense out of nonsense.

Now yesterday I had asked a question to the creatives about Radhika and Chanda that''..that I know that Chanda is bad and Radhika is good.........but if one keeps both the nature of these two characters aside, also don't take into consideration whom Dev likes and whether he is KK and just look at Radhikas and Chandas actions towards Dev..........are they that different? I mean Chanda liked Dev but was then pushed by her mother to go after Dev..........Radhika also liked Dev but then needed some other persons indication that he is her KK to accept Dev...........so both needed some other persons sign'''.so is Radhika different from Chanda on the basis of this action?

Today I am going to repeat this question but this time its between Dev and Rohan'''again I know that Dev has been projected as being responsible and Rohan irresponsible''..Dev the mature one and Rohan the immature one'''.but if again one keeps the nature of these characters aside''..and only focus on their actions'''..that is getting married to some girl under someone elses dictation, then how different is Dev from Rohan? I am asking this question because one of the media segments hinted at Dev's marriage being fixed to Chanda'''I don't know whether this scenario will be shown or not but just used this as an example here''

I don't see any difference at this point. In fact now I like Rohan better than Dev. At least he is what he is. Based on this week's episodes, I don't find this couple a spiritual one at all. All they are interested is self pity, rituals and obligations.

When Dev and Radhika used to get sad in CB1, you felt sympathy for them. Here I feel irritation as the situations are so artificial. Both don't know each other's names and are not even interested in finding that anymore. When you love someone, you want to know everything about them. So now Dev doesn't want to know that because he is heartbroken. But he wasn't heartbroken when he went to Radhika's house. If Maheswari introduced everyone, why wouldn't Mansa or Shanti introduce her family to Dev? Radhika's happiness or Dev's sadness appears artificial created out of artificial situations.

I have a reason for asking this question'''.I have explained at the end of my yesterdays thread but again repeating it here''' this story has been propagated as a spiritual story and that both the protagonists will be "active"........now spiritual means that the person will follow what the heart is saying or the inner being is saying...but here they are not showing that regarding Radhika..Yes they did show today that she thanks kanha for the unbreakable link but it was not clear whether it is the soul thing here or link created by marriage as a child..... Also if Dev accepts this marriage proposal from Chanda then how different is he from Rohan by this action''The problem is that when the makers use these heavy sounding words to define a character.......the audience accepts that as the characterisation and when the characters behave differently then the audience is left confused as to what the character really is......the way he or she has been described or what is being projected on the screen.........and that sooner rather later irritates the audience and makes the emotionally withdraw from the character. I hope that the makers have thought about this issue. Now one might say that being active means that the characters can walk and talk''..now if that is what the makers meant in all the articles then it is a different matter.

The audience are also confused when characters are shown one way in one week and another way in another week.

Originally posted by: Kinara2

Originally posted by: misti73

Originally posted by: rajsri

Misti ... wonderful analysis of what the creatives said they were showing versus what they are actually showing

Thankyou mausiji.......😃

Have not watched the episode today ... so will comment on it after i watch ... but thought i would give you my thoughts on rads and her actions in accepting dev and whether or not they are different from chanda's

Rajsri, Radhika's thoughts in accepting Dev are different from Chandas thoughts in lusting after Dev.......my point was whether one needed a push and the other did it on her own free will (which shows spiritual relationship to me....I mean a decision which is not based on any ritual.......any societies rules and any persons views)....or is it push for both,.......here it is push for both.Actually yesterday it made me think that the makers use of word spiritual might not mean a spiritual relationship but more to do with souls or spirits.

Rads is fixated on this marriage as a 12 year old and is not letting anything or anyone else distract her from this. She has been strong enough to get her father's support and oppose a shrew of a so called mother and is firmly rooted in the belief that this is the marriage for her. Right now, even if she feels there is a connection between souls, she is not acting through on those feelings. Her actions fully reflect her preset/preconditioned love for KK ...

So you are taking spiritual as souls and not a one to one relationship.....like say for example a spiritual relationship with God will be a personal relationship for me........where society, rituals, what others say will not make any difference.

She is now starting to think of and dream about him ... which she did not allow herself to do earlier. When she now finds out that her KK is rohan, i would expect that she begins at that point of time to question her lack of attraction to rohan versus her strong connection to dev. At this point would be when the soul searching starts and if they show her happily accepting rohan it would be very strange ... right now she is only doing what she has conditioned herself to do - so her actions are a result of her desire to only follow what she has been dreaming of all these years
Yes........I get that.......
I am waiting to see how they show this track in its entirety before i decide whether or not it is a meeting of souls

Ahh so you are thinking of spiritual as souls while I am thinking of spiritual relationship which is beyond the boundaries dictated by society or others thoughts.

As far as Dev is concerned, it would be pretty lame to show him agreeing to marry Chanda ... why marry the sister of the girl you love ... i am sure he could find someone else 😉

Ahh............do you need a gardner.......😉...I mean spring is approaching.😉😃..and mausiji please don't bring mausaji into it.😉