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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rapier



hmmm...so sushant didn't know how the show worked? i highly doubt it. who signs a contract with a channel for a show without knowing about the show and how it works? he got into this knowing full well how the show operated. and it's not like he got to know about this today. JDJ has been saying their motto over and over again ever since the first promos of the show. it's been saying about turning a non-dancer into a dancer for a while now. i wonder why he never brought it up then?😕 i agree with sushant though. he should've never been in the show. highly unfair for the contestants who worked their butts off to learn how to dance and compete with people who were already a step ahead. he should try shows where its ok to be trained. all the best sushant!👍🏼


umm.. firstly, yana is a item number girl, ie dancer. next, JDJ is an international version of dancing with the STARs and Strictly come dancing. i am sure, it wasnt projected as a show for making non-dancers dance ONLY. if that was the case, then sushant's question is RIGHT.
it was about dancing with the STARS; and making those stars dance who havent done so before. like you say, sushant knew about it "before", then the same goes with Chang.
more importantly, i dont understand why is chang and others using the non-dancer card: chang is a singer, who has an ear for beat, sound, rhythm. and he has acted in a movie which THY DANCE. some experience is better than none.
someone who is TRULY a non-dancer is Akhil. he was in no way related to the field, devoting his time to boxing. Thus comparing, Chang on his first episode was BETTER than Akhil on his elimination.

as you say, JDJ has been saying the same motto"make non-dancer dance" from the begining, then WHY take sushant and yana for that matter? sushant has been VERY open about his jazz training.
then WHY take shevta salve; who is a trained dancer? why take sudha chandran who is classical dancer?

my take; JDJ is in noway a show for non-dancer stars. yana hasnt recieved so much flak for being an item girl, as sushant for being trained in jazz.. so unfair. chang and others should quit using the tag of non-dancer and celebrate his success. sushant knew it was a show for stars. he is a HUGE star in the TV world.
sushant (and yana)'s spot in the show NOT unfair. WHY? because the dude shoots for 12 hours a day for PR. then, he is contractually obligated to do appearances as Manav of PR everywhere at the cost of his rehearsing time. so, where chang and others have time advantage, sushant doesnt. and we all know, how important pratice is to achieve perfection. if you notice sometimes, in the shots of Hawa mahal, before/ after sushant's performance, he is not in the background. ie he is NOT THERE and is shooting for PR.
also, during the season of JDJ was awards season, ie sushant was everywhere performing.
i didnt see chang anywhere doing as many events as them.

so, every contestant had their advantages and disadvantages balanced out.

also, in the international versions, there have been MANY "dancers" or people who have trained in more than one from of dance. Nicole Sherzinger from Pussy cat Dolls won season 10 of dancing with the stars and she has one of the most flexible bodies in Hollywood.

Even though sushant was my favorite, on the whole, i dont mind chang winning. but i just wanted to present my POV.
Edited by tiya229 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rapier



hmmm...so sushant didn't know how the show worked? i highly doubt it. who signs a contract with a channel for a show without knowing about the show and how it works? he got into this knowing full well how the show operated. and it's not like he got to know about this today. JDJ has been saying their motto over and over again ever since the first promos of the show. it's been saying about turning a non-dancer into a dancer for a while now. i wonder why he never brought it up then?😕 i agree with sushant though. he should've never been in the show. highly unfair for the contestants who worked their butts off to learn how to dance and compete with people who were already a step ahead. he should try shows where its ok to be trained. all the best sushant!👍🏼


Completely disagree.

The show NEVER claimed ever since its first episode that its aim was to make a dancer out of a non-dancer- they always focus on the celeb part and never say 'these are all non-dancers'. Even Remo spoke about the show on JDJ blog when it was launched, he said--- SOME of them have never danced in their life. Means he knew about the others. Heck, he has even SEEN Sushant performing as a guest performer on DID with Shakti Mohan. Remember all the past debates on the forum that the show was 'dancing with the stars'??? If you look into the format, (the india-forums description for example) it always says, that JDJ brings people from all walks of life to compete. In the background, yes, the format may be to eventually make a dancer out of a non-dancer, but, JDJ has never properly CLAIMED it ANY SEASON. Proof??? ---- In the past too, JDJ has had some trained contestansts in ever season--- Sudha Chandran, Parul Chauhan, Sweta Salve.

If the format of the show was to make a dancer out of a non-dancer as everyone claims, then why was Sushant APPROACHED for the show in the first place--- the guy has always been clear since his very first interview that he is trained under Shiamak Daver and even talked about it on National TV once (Star Plus). Not only this, he spoke about his training in his very first AV on JDJ. Then why was he still in the show? The fault here is not his, but rather the channel's- who offered him the show and signed him inspite of knowing everything- he didn't go to them, they came to him to sign him. They gave him a good offer, offered him good money, and so he took it up like a normal person. The point that 'he should not have taken up the show' doesn't hold water here. When the show makers themselves considered him eligible and came to him, why would he refuse????

If you look at 'dancing with the stars' - the international version ALSO had a dancer--- a former member of 'Pussycats' who not only participated in the show, but also WON it--- so there, the show is exactly what it is--- dancing with the STARS.

The main reason why I feel JDJ takes some good dancers in the show is to have some 'guaranteed' good dancing in the initial few weeks, when the non-dancers are trying to find their feet in dancing, else no one will watch the show. These 'the show is for non-dancer' claims start in the end few weeks of the show. ALWAYS. This was most apparent in season 1 and now in season 4.




Edited by nikitagmc - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc


The main reason why I feel JDJ takes some good dancers in the show is to have some 'guaranteed' good dancing in the initial few weeks, when the non-dancers are trying to find their feet in dancing, else no one will watch the show. These 'the show is for non-dancer' claims start in the end few weeks of the show. ALWAYS. This was most apparent in season 1 and now in season 4.



So true, we the Audience are not here to sit and watch your progression.. Remind me agian, is JDJ an entertainment show or a dance class? 😕

And do we have nothing better to do than watch some guy turn from non dancer to dancer... Bah...

Who cares if you improved or not, I think regardless the trophy should go to the best and most entertaining dancer.... cough *sushant* cough...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sigh... we got only one proper interview of Sushant about JDJ... why not more...??? :-(
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nikitagmc

Sigh... we got only one proper interview of Sushant about JDJ... why not more...??? :-(

You know Niki, just last night I was wondering the exact same thing. Most evictees had two or three interviews too, then why not the finalists? Yana, for instance, doesn't seem to have any. And Sushant...really, why aren't there any more asking the kind of questions they asked Ankita...favourite performance, memorable moment...you know, positive, happy things about the entire experience. Damn.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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sushant ur always winner fr us this sony iz cheater.......
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I really thought either he or Salman was going to win :( Nothing against Chang, but I feel like these two deserved it more.

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