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Posted: 14 years ago
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Love is responsibility, trust and much more...
Shantanu says, "Khanak aaj tak main samajhta raha pyaar sirf ek ehsaas hain. Par nahin, pyaar ek zimmedaari aur vishwaas hain.. "
Shantanu realises this. This dialogue sounds very good. Even if the connection is missing it somehow connects with the situation. Shantanu realises that maybe because he took things so lightly, mistook love to be just a feeling he doubted her. Maybe indirectly he is telling Khanak, yes he doubted her and it was wrong, and that he is ready to make ammends. Make her believe in his love for her. He is ready to pay the price.
We know Khanak is very hurt because Shantanu doubted her very integrity. Which woman can live with that!! No.. but yes every woman wishes that her husband realises his mistake and makes up for it.
Shantanu knows this and he tried but in his childish way. So maybe I feel the track is making some connection. Shantanu realising that love is not something that you would do for your wife.. the flair and flamboyancy, but the feeling within, the trust, the faith that comes in the relationship, the fact that you really know each. Many factors play an important role.
Shantanu's realisation is probably the first step towards the fact that he will accept his wrong doing and make ammends. In the way Khanak wants him to do so, with responsibility, with faith, by being independent and self sufficient. Maybe it is the correct way too. this way he will regain her faith in him which she lost because he doubted her.
I am simply trying to see the connection of the present track with the actual issue which they are deterring away from. I hope I am right!!

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OlicityFan thumbnail
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nyc post !!...
im sure they'll bring abt the 'trust' issue later along wid the track!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I have no idea what the cv's are thinking but I seriously hope ...they make Shantanu realise that it was extremely cheap on his part to doubdt his wife's integrity....someone who still loved him disregarding the fact that he was responsible for her 1st husband's death...

I do not find anything wrong with the track showing Shantanu trying to earn his own money as well....
It would seem so ridiculous if he his trying to win back his wife living at her expense,in her house, eating whatever she feeds him with her money........totally loser thing.
The guy seriously needs to take her responsibility on his shoulders..


I believe the cv's frequently visit this forum...
If they don't have this "Shaan realising he was wrong doubdting his wife thing" in their minds...lets put in their brains.....

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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Jessica
Very nice post.

Yes, I also think the CVs are addressing the 'trust' issue but in a round-about way.... we will get ther eventually... just hope it's powerful when that realisation happens for Shaan!

For ex, that line by Shaan- pyaar ek ehsaas nahin, ek zinmedaari hai is such a good line... but i think it got a bit lost ysterday....

Hpe that doesnt happen again.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: tvrasika

@ Jessica
Very nice post.

Yes, I also think the CVs are addressing the 'trust' issue but in a round-about way.... we will get ther eventually... just hope it's powerful when that realisation happens for Shaan!

For ex, that line by Shaan- pyaar ek ehsaas nahin, ek zinmedaari hai is such a good line... but i think it got a bit lost ysterday....

Hpe that doesnt happen again.

@bold: yes I agree Gaayu. That is what I meant by connectivity issues. I hope so too that they seriously pay attention to these minute details. Great dialogue, but the effect was totally lost !!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh god loved your post...so badly want to post a reply...but all I am getting in my head is the song

What is love?//

baby don't hurt me...don't hurt me...no more

and then the brain freezes....

okay is this a metaphor of sorts???😕
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post jessica personally i don't belive in love but i know when i get married i'll be in love with my partner and i think trust is the base of any relation if my partner dosen trust me that means he don't loves me......

and its really important that shaan realize that he did a mistake and he have to pay for it .......

luv zara
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: AzaraA

nice post jessica personally i don't belive in love but i know when i get married i'll be in love with my partner and i think trust is the base of any relation if my partner dosen trust me that means he don't loves me......

A marriage without trust has no existence!!

and its really important that shaan realize that he did a mistake and he have to pay for it .......

luv zara

As for Shantanu, he does realise it according to yesterday's dialogues. but till now he was too childish in his views to really let that realisation sink in!!
Now we have to wait and watch what he will do.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I was thinking about this alot.
On one hand I believe that love cannot exist without there being trust.Responsibility comes into play a bit later.It comes with wanting to sustain the love.

On the other hand aren't humans emotional creature when it comes to love?Love can lead to irrational behaviour, it can make you do things you wouldn't normally do.It makes you stop thinking with your brain and makes you lead with your heart-not exactly the organ made for thinking. When situations like these arise it can make that trust-which you thought you always had-fly out of the window.Because in the end humans can be very insecure creatures.Whether they don't feel worthy of that love or don't feel secure of it in some tiny part of their souls, that niggling doubt without which we wouldn't be humans at all, it rises and just takes over.

So yes love is about trust but love is also about having doubts taunt that tiny insecurity somewhere inside you, and about that feeling taking over and dominating.Your brain knows you're being irrational but you fall helpless.

The song Saaz mentions-just reinforces the fact that love has unlimited capacity to hurt.And as long as we're humanly emotional and as long as we love passionately, we leave ourselves open to all sorts of hurts.
Humans were never meant to be saints, never designed to be perfect.

Even if he makes amends for doubting her fidelity, even if he matures through this experience, who is to say he wouldn't make another mistake in the future?

Okay I have no idea what I just wrote.In my defense, it is 4 in the morning.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -SYS-

I was thinking about this alot.

On one hand I believe that love cannot exist without there being trust.Responsibility comes into play a bit later.It comes with wanting to sustain the love.

On the other hand aren't humans emotional creature when it comes to love?Love can lead to irrational behaviour, it can make you do things you wouldn't normally do.It makes you stop thinking with your brain and makes you lead with your heart-not exactly the organ made for thinking. True.. very true, log dil se sochte jab apne pyaar ke baarein mein sochte hain.. When situations like these arise it can make that trust-which you thought you always had-fly out of the window.Because in the end humans can be very insecure creatures.Whether they don't feel worthy of that love or don't feel secure of it in some tiny part of their souls, that niggling doubt without which we wouldn't be humans at all, it rises and just takes over.
See it quite complex. Hence we ask the same question what is love? it is felt with the heart, but the brain is forced to interrupt here. The brain forces the doubts, but then the heart takes upper hand if the love is strong. Forces the brain to think that the heart has a point. Here probably Shantanu's heart lost to his brain not because his love for Khanak was not strong. He loved Khanak, but probably his male vanity took a blow. He thought Khanak loved Suraj more.. He did not want to beilieve that but his brain over powered his heart and made him react the way he did..

So yes love is about trust but love is also about having doubts taunt that tiny insecurity somewhere inside you, and about that feeling taking over and dominating.Your brain knows you're being irrational but you fall helpless.
Yes love is a war between the heart and the brain!!

The song Saaz mentions-just reinforces the fact that love has unlimited capacity to hurt.And as long as we're humanly emotional and as long as we love passionately, we leave ourselves open to all sorts of hurts.
Humans were never meant to be saints, never designed to be perfect.
No one is perfect. If shantanu has faults then even Khanak has her own!! But here love is the one who wins. In the end, Shantanu will make ammends, Khanak will forgive.. Love wins!! Heart wins as well as the brains!!

Even if he makes amends for doubting her fidelity, even if he matures through this experience, who is to say he wouldn't make another mistake in the future?
Sigh shak ke liye koi tod nahin hain!! Doubts and love don't go together. Her comes the important role of the heart, where the heart pacifies the brains and thus wins. Even is Khanak fogives Shantanu, her trust will become stronger as the next time Shantanu will not make the same mistake and thus love emerges to be stronger.
See I believe that god makes pairs. They were made for each other.. (Lolz I mean RBO made them to be together😆😉) So God also tests their relationship to make it more stronger. Else they would not be together!!

Okay I have no idea what I just wrote.In my defense, it is 4 in the morning.

Superb argument on your part and even better for you to have made it at 4 in the morning!! Girl get soem sleep.. love always wins.. Heart has always got a upper hand than the brain!! remember it is the one that feeds the brain!! Not the other way round!!
Thanks for such a lovely argument!!

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