DOTW: When is it time for actors to step down?

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Posted: 14 years ago
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When is it time for Actors to step down?

So my question is probably something that all of you have discussed numerous times.

But anyways, nowadays, actors and actresses are in movies for amazingly long periods of time, moreso actors than the actresses. They act with about 3 different generations of women, and yet they still have that following, where they still end up acting like the 20 something hero regardless of what their true age might be.

When do you think it's time for actors to step down and pass on the mantle to the newer generation?

Stepping down doesn't have to be stopping movies completely, it can also be something like just acting more age appropriate roles, like playing the father of the hero instead of the hero himself.

So any comments?

Do actors even HAVE to step down?

Andand, why do you think it's always the actors that continue to act and the actresses are quickly labeled old or whatever and step into mother roles much sooner?


I think I'm posting this a little early, so sorry about that😳 I just might not be online for a long enough time tomorrow (I have tests and stuff start Tuesday) so I just posted this a tad bit early.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice topic :)

On your question about should actors step down i would say yes with big YES....

When I see movies like Vijayakanths Kalalagan (the one with Laila), Rajini's sivaji, and many others movies where you see an actor with an actress who could be their daughter it makes me sick...what are they thinking? It is not appropriate and yeah...I just hate it....and i can't understand why the actress' say yes to it....

another thing i hate about Tamil cinema and its viewers are the ruling double standard...Viewers doesn't have anything to say when married actors play intimate/ close scenes with new and young heroines...but when married actresses do the same, it will not be equally accepted...
so the question on this that cross my mind is: does the married actress step out because they are married or do they step out because they know they won't be accepted as their male colleges ?

In this context I would like to praise actors like Prabu, Karthik who lately have has taken roles that have been age appropriate ...Respect for those two and of course not to mention Sathyaraj.

And in hope many actors like Rajini, Kamal, Arjun, Vijayakanth, Sarathkumar etc will do the same because no one (i think) wish to see these (old) Actors dance around trees with young girls.

And another thing that makes me furious is that actress' like Jothika (who delivered her best movies before she stopped), Simran (whom I didn't like when she was famous, but have done a great job when you look back and compare with actress today) etc. Is replaced by actress like Shreya Saran who cant act or "Vai adda" – look at her mouth in tamil songs or movies it is awful…

that was alot of thoughts...hope i didnt bore you :P



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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice topic! The post above me said it very nicely as well :) (Though I'm a Shreya fan😆)

This is just my opinion, and I would answer your question with a big yes as well!
I think actors are "allowed" to work that long just because they are active longer and do not grow old as quickly as woman do, I mean in looks. Women get too tired to do young roles as they age because their bodies are a little more sensitive due to stuff like pregnancies, blah blah and etc..

But I really think men should stop acting as a hero once they hit like, 45 max.
For example, as much as I love Rajni, come on, he's like 60! I think he's a great actor but he would be better suited to do older roles.

So yea, that's basically my take LOL
Edited by aishi.muffin - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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haha yeah, i completely agree. there should be like an age after which they need to stop with the young hero roles.

i always think of Chiranjeevi in Stalin, with Trisha as the heroine. 😆

They're all amazing actors and everything, but like take on the more fatherly roles or something, I don't really think it's fun watching 60 year old mn romancing like 20 year old women in movies.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Oh yes, a big yes from my side.
Nice topic.

and the person that tops my list is Chiranjeevi. i really dislike his some of his recent films like Andharivadu, stalin. Sometimes its so funny to see him Romancing with the heroins of his sons age!!!.
Ofcource he's a great actor, but why not choose the film which suits at their age. Many people liked the film Stalin, literally it was very good movie with great message...............but the romancing part of Trisha was totally unnessesary. just to fill up the typical southindian movies style of 6 songs per movie!!!!!!!!.

next person would be balayababu.😆 the MINIMUM number of heroines he chooses in his films is 3. as if his lucky number is 3.
and his same pattern dialogues....ne inthikocha, nee nattintikocha, ee chupu tho champutha, aa chupu tho champutha.🤣

Avasarama??????????

if i remember any other will add to the list.😆



Edited by NiHa24 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: NiHa24

Oh yes, a big yes from my side.
Nice topic.

and the person that tops my list is Chiranjeevi. i really dislike his some of his recent films like Andharivadu, stalin. Sometimes its so funny to see him Romancing with the heroins of his sons age!!!.
Ofcource he's a great actor, but why not choose the film which suits at their age. Many people liked the film Stalin, literally it was very good movie with great message...............but the romancing part of Trisha was totally unnessesary. just to fill up the typical southindian movies style of 6 songs per movie!!!!!!!!.

next person would be balayababu.😆 the MINIMUM number of heroines he chooses in his films is 3. as if his lucky number is 3.
and his same pattern dialogues....ne inthikocha, nee nattintikocha, ee chupu tho champutha, aa chupu tho champutha.🤣

Avasarama??????????

if i remember any other will add to the list.😆





LMFAO! I totalllly agree with you...especially with like the same dialogues aspect...and damn, i never noticed but balakrishna. ALWAYS has multiple heroines, who ALWAYS happen to be about 40 years younger than him 😆😆😆😆

and I agree these movies just seem have the heroines, regardless of their difference in age from the heroes, just to add the romance aspect and fill up the song count...

Stalin with Chiranjeevi, like you said, had a really good moral message, and the story itself was good, but like Trisha even being in the movie was quite useless if you ask me, because she was just there for the song count.

The actors pretty much do have the potential to choose AMAZING movies that actually go with their appropriate age group, rather than just trying to be younger. I'm still people will still watch Chiranjeevi and Balakrishna, and more obviously, if they acted in more age appropriate roles which might incidentally be ones that deliver good messages....

wow. i hope that made sense😆😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice topic

LOL seems like i'm the only confused one here... I have confused thoughts about this one... I do feel yes it's time for them to step out but u see when they still possess the capability of breaking records why retire?? At an age above 60 Rajini can break all time records which even young blood isn't able to do then y steppin out... If they're capable i still feel they could carry on... When i saw Baba i thought its about the time he retire but then came Sivaji Chandramukhi n Robo which rocked... but yet it does seem weird to see woo Shreya n all... They can step out of Romancing n do some serious kind of roles..

Now moving on to telugu... Chiru n BK its high time they step out since their successors have already proved their worth.... Chiru n Trisha looked like father n daghter in that muvi n same wid Sneha n BK in Simha.. it was so weird... The wigs n all seem so fake on BK..... I can't say the same about Nagarjuna.. He keeps lookin better as time passes.... He looked a bit old in Manamadhudu but now a days he's better than his son.... Even Venky's doing a good job... He's looking fab in Nagavalli look...

If they are still able to maintain the look n have the strength better than their young counterparts they could still carry on... but yea there's should be a limit.... Amitabh is doing great roles n even able to best actor award but the scope of south cinema is very limited... its not really possible to expect such roles here... but if they do i think they can probably shift...

Coming to the heroines... The role of heroines in south industry bearing a few is just to look good and dance... Rarely do they get to play a performance oriented roles.. Its all about glamour when it comes to heroine n who ever looks better is in d game... One is hardly bothered about their acting skills... The ones who get married obviously can't add any more glamorous quotient unless their family is ok with it n they chose to step out...

If they maintain n look good.. i don think even age is barrier for them... Genelia is older when compared to Ram who are younger than her... Its not the age matters but the look n definitely she looks young when compared to them..

The ultimate gist is I'm confused... one part of me says enough now.. but well then are selling why not make profits

Oh that was quite a long post... Just my views...

Edited by premeer4rever - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Nice topic Naina!

I feel its not only about the age but also the looks and the mass appeal the actor has. Like Aish said, some don't look old so fast, so they are still able to carry on the youth image pretty well. Its actually about who the audience want to see on screen!

Rajni has the mass appeal even tho he's old. In a recent interview, he actually said that hereafter, he wants to do roles which suit his age. But his crazy fan following won't allow that, I'm sure. Similarly, Kamal, he's one of the greatest actors around and I dun think people would wanna shun him just cos of his age. There are crazy fans who still want them around! In that case, the producers and directors will definitely make sure they cast them as long as they get the revenue. Ultimately, its the audience who decide.

However, some actors really need to step down like Vijayakanth and T Rajendar, cos they have neither the looks nor the mass appeal to sustain. And of course, new comers with talent need to be given more recognition. 😃

About women stepping down after marriage, I think its this general perception in society that its 'immoral" to see a woman romancing with someone else after marriage. Also, they have the responsibility of taking care of the family, while the man still goes out to work.
Edited by khpriya - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: premeer4rever

Nice topic

LOL seems like i'm the only confused one here... I have confused thoughts about this one... I do feel yes it's time for them to step out but u see when they still possess the capability of breaking records why retire?? At an age above 60 Rajini can break all time records which even young blood isn't able to do then y steppin out... If they're capable i still feel they could carry on... When i saw Baba i thought its about the time he retire but then came Sivaji Chandramukhi n Robo which rocked... but yet it does seem weird to see woo Shreya n all... They can step out of Romancing n do some serious kind of roles..

Now moving on to telugu... Chiru n BK its high time they step out since their successors have already proved their worth.... Chiru n Trisha looked like father n daghter in that muvi n same wid Sneha n BK in Simha.. it was so weird... The wigs n all seem so fake on BK..... I can't say the same about Nagarjuna.. He keeps lookin better as time passes.... He looked a bit old in Manamadhudu but now a days he's better than his son.... Even Venky's doing a good job... He's looking fab in Nagavalli look...

If they are still able to maintain the look n have the strength better than their young counterparts they could still carry on... but yea there's should be a limit.... Amitabh is doing great roles n even able to best actor award but the scope of south cinema is very limited... its not really possible to expect such roles here... but if they do i think they can probably shift...

Coming to the heroines... The role of heroines in south industry bearing a few is just to look good and dance... Rarely do they get to play a performance oriented roles.. Its all about glamour when it comes to heroine n who ever looks better is in d game... One is hardly bothered about their acting skills... The ones who get married obviously can't add any more glamorous quotient unless their family is ok with it n they chose to step out...

If they maintain n look good.. i don think even age is barrier for them... Genelia is almost 30 n paired against Ram, Tarak who are younger than her... Its not the age matters but the look n definitely she looks young when compared to them..

The ultimate gist is I'm confused... one part of me says enough now.. but well then are selling why not make profits

Oh that was quite a long post... Just my views...

Genelia just celebrated her 23rd birthday! 😆 She's not almost 30 😆 Born in 1987 :) I think you got the info from wikipedia, which isn't right. All other sources plus she herself confirmed that she's only 23.
LOL anyway I also love your views! Very nicely put! 👏
Edited by aishi.muffin - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Awesome topic You know this is also one thing that bothers me when I see older actors romance actresses who are like their daughters' age. ( Great example as mentioned a few times are Rajini and Shreya in Sivaji)
I mean story wise it may follow.. but when you seem to know how old these ppl really are.. it kind of grosses you out.
Stepping down doesn't literally have to mean completely stopping films. They can still play other serious roles which may be more suiting to their age. Like I just hate it when the older actors use their heroines just for a few song sequences and then you don't see them again. It's quite annoying. If you possess the capability to pull off a good performance... you don't necessarily have to be the center of attention all the time ( examples are Prabhu, Karthik)
Actors should atleast move onto other roles after they hit like 45 or something. Especially 'cause most of the actors above 45 do the same type of films over and over again which people are tired of.
For actresses it is quite a tough career. This is mostly 'cause in the past an actress is usually able to hold a strong ground until she's married. But once she tries to make a comeback, it is rather quite hard to attain that same spot, and in this case, many even move to supporting roles. I can say that this trend is changing now where you see actresses making comebacks in films as heroines, but it is quite rare in the South industries where it seems rather too hard to deviate from the " supposed" tradition of an actress not continuing with films after marriage.
Someone mentioned that women are more sensitive due to issues like pregnancy and tend to age faster than men. Well that is true. But after a certain point even men start to age, and in the case of an actor, they would still look young and fresh if they were able to maintain their bodies physically and mentally. I think the same can go for actresses. Even after starting a family and giving birth, etc., if the actress can maintain herself just like she had done earlier, she can still make a come back as a heroine looking all fresh and new.
But then even in this, actresses simply resort to just wanting to only concentrate on their families and nothing else... which is by personal choice ( Example is Jyothika who I love soo much and terribly miss too, yet still proud of her for placing family in front of everything else)
Anywayz... what am saying is that if actors can still continue to play the center of attention in old age, then actresses can still have the capability to do the same.
So in that case, actors should step down after a certain point. I mean it's like they've had their successful run, it's time to take a break and let the young bloods take their spot.
But I think it also depends on the fans too because they can make the actor and even break the actor too. And some may not even want to see their fave shift to supporting roles. Like what would Rajinikanth's fans say if he stopped playing the hero ? ( Am not trying to offend anyone here)
Wow that was quite long.. but yea.. hope I made myself clear

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