The Events at Kripa Hall

Originally posted by: soapbubble

So another engagement and we get our full quota of drama. 😛

The three ladies come downstairs, all looking lovely. Everyone's eyes light up ' that was nice to see. Then Sajjan Singh King of Insensitive, offering his own superior ring to Arushi;🤢 thankfully Shyamji steps in and deflects that move with a firm but polite refusal. Aman lets out a small smile of relief and gladness.

SS then asks for liquor and claps for the nautch girl. The Thakur men enjoy the dance but not very many other people. (Aside: Didn't they have time to choreograph the dance thoroughly because strobe editing is a rather shoddy way to keep beat, isn't it. Anyway, Mink gets to touch Krishna baba which makes her Current Reigning Public Enemy 😛😛😉)

The IG, who was earlier stopped by his wife from attacking SS, manages to regain his self control and is still striving to let this engagement pass without further mess up. But is that possible with SS around? No. So Thakur Sajjan Singh, the man who has convinced his children that Allahabad ran by HIS rules, comes into his grovelling, snivelling mode. He tackles the IG again, telling him that now that they are related, everything should be alright for him. That whatever 'chote mote' cases have been piled up against him and Shakti should be swept away. "Whatever gave you the idea that I would do that for you?" the IG wanted to know. 'Of course you will,' SS told him, 'this is such a small matter for you!'🤢
The IG is clenching his jaw with fury. For an upright man of ideals, it is beyond his forbearance to listen to such suggestions. He starts to shout.

SS is dismayed ' this was not the reaction he was expecting. So he tries to calm him down ' let us sit down and talk this over. Whatever you want will be at your doorstep before you've had time to yell for it. Bribery. This is the limit. Enraged, the SD Mathur tells him he could have him arrested for what he has just said.

Entry Cue: Clueless Hero
Krishna jumps in - berating Mathur Sr for insulting his honourable father. The IG is taken aback. I can show you the cases piled up against your honourable father and brother, he tells him. Krishna raises an imperative hand - I know all about them and in any case, no one has been able to do anything about them so far. Raised eyebrows all around. SS is aghast - as it is, matters have not gone according to plan! Why throw down this gauntlet and have the IG begin to hunt him down from the very next day? He tries to shush Krishna but his son, ever concerned about pride, family and relationships, is on a roll. This is not your court or police station - this is a family space and an engagement is taking place - you have no call to insult my father in this way. My father is thrilled about this engagement, it is because he is so happy with it that he has not taken umbrage to your insults! 😲

Senior Mathur acknowledges the rightness of this family sentiment by looking away - he is also perturbed slightly by the impropriety of this fracas but how to explain to this young man wrapped in cotton wool that the altercation was forced on him? Who is going to tell Krishna that his father has had just one agenda ever since he heard about the IG?

Krishna, Shakti, Komal and Thakurain are angry, but SS isn't. He is under no illusion about his 'power' - he knows how hollow it is, how it can crumble in the face of a higher power. His family doesn't know it. They believe what he has been telling them for years - that he has been riding on Thakur pride and honour, that he's a strong force that will not be defeated. SS tells the IG very humbly that if his presence is annoying him, he will leave. Krishna is spluttering in disbelief!😲 Why is his father, Thakur Sajjan Singh, backing off? Why is he leaving the field? Why is he not raising Cain as he does for every real and perceived insult? What is happening?

I think it was to Krishna's credit that he jumped in there, trying to protect and defend his father. At least it did credit to his heart if not his mind. SS, who has cried himself hoarse that his son has left his side, should have been happy.

I felt that the IG was the one person who understood Krishna perfectly yesterday. He knows that there are several cases against SS and Shakti and none at all against Krishna. That tells its own tale. For a young man born and raised in the midst such rampant abuse of power NOT TO USE IT speaks either of sterling character or weakness. Krishna is certainly not weak - his defence of his father was instinctive, heartfelt and very right in its place - and the Mathur sr IMO lost no time making up his mind about him. He knew he was encountering a rare type. Here was a lotus that was unaffected by the muck it grew out of.

But what can one say about Krishna's ability to delude himself? But the truth is, he cannot see. For everything his father does, Krishna has his own spin on it. My father is loving, he is powerful but he is upfront, he is brave, he values family, he is charming, he is open-hearted, he is generous. There is nothing deceitful about my father, he has strong values about tradition... my father is not manipulative, my father loves me, he does everything with a noble purpose. My father is not an ordinary criminal, he's just a man who knows how to make his way in the world. sooooooo true...........😭😭😭

Krishna, by some magic, has all the right values himself. He has somehow brought himself up on a diet of ideals - high ideals of love, family values, honour, the obligations of power, marriage vows. And no matter what has happened in his life, he has MANAGED to make events fit his version of how things should be. He has managed to interpret his father according to his own ideals and he has even managed to convince himself that his own ideals come from his father.
This is a deep rooted delusion and so strong that it makes me fear for Krishna. How badly does he need to believe it? What happens if he is MADE to face the truth? When will he face it? i think the only possible way is kesar or GD to open their mouth and enlighten him about the world he thought he inhabited is after all an illusion.........😕
Pratigya cannot talk him out of it, she cannot simply 'tell' him the truth. How is she going to react today? she will be upset for sure......but i don't think she will blame SS infront of krishna.......

Bubble

Very nice post, Bubble. 👏 I especially liked the section in which you talk of Krishna's state of mind and how the IG immediately sees him for what he is.

I also felt that the IG could immediately tell that K was a different kettle of fish from his family. The very fact that there is no case against a man from such a family tells its own tale. He recognized Krishna's affront for what it was – hurt pride and shock at what he thought was a social solecism. I felt he really softened in the face of such real pride where the ingratiating ways of SS had completely riled him. The IG the kind of man who will recognize a spine and respect it.

But the burning question is when will K realsie that the so called Thakurayee on which he has based all his ideals is a load of bull that his father has been systematically feeding him? Delusions you say, Bubble, DELUDED TO HIS GILLS, I concur. What will it take for him to realize that his father is a gas-bag full of bluster and no stuffing, just like any other bully who steps on the weak to demonstrate their power? When will he realize that he does not live in a feudal set-up where the lord and master both provides as well as makes the law of the land? How long will he escape from the fact that he lives in a civil society where there are rules beyond his ken? What will it take for him to respect those rules at least when they matter most?

Krishna has been brought up on a diet of such words as HONOUR< LOVE< FAMILY<DUTY and has grown up believing that anything is fair in the safe-keeping of these values. That no violence or aggression is wrong if they are towards protecting these sacred cows. But he is slowly realizing that these are just WORDS to his family. Words that can be used, manipulated, exploited as a cover for unspeakable wrongs, violence and coercion. That these are just words that are given as an excuse to cover greed, meanness and cruelty. Even in Kesar's case he was willing for his family and brother to have their way because he believed somewhere that they were duty bound to take care of her ultimately and that they would not fail her. But when the idea of remarriage came up, it seemed wrong to his feudal mindset because it seemed that they were reneging on the deal to look after her for a lifetime. Krishna has had many clues and hints that his family does not hold those ideals very dear and that nothing is more important then their own greed, power and lust. But he simply refuse to see the truth that faces him s baldly. His realization has been painfully slow, because it is a realization which leaves him RAW. He will not fully comprehend I fear, til he knows that they plotted to murder his own Pratigya. Only that will leave him with no escape route to face the truth. Till then he cannot bare to be stripped of his delusions because it is as painful as being skinned alive for him. If his values came from his father and his father does not in fact have them himself then what is the value in these ideals? What is the substitute for these baseless values?

If he is not an honourable Thakur who will take on anything and anybody for love, honour, family and duty, THEN WHO IS KRISHNA SINGH? What does he have to offer? Is he a worthy, upstanding citizen? NO? Is he a great husband/good provider? NO? Is he classy, educated and of good social repute? NO? So how, and in what shape will he reinvent his basic values and his outer form to match?

It is a dismal picture I paint.😕 And I depress myself with each word.😭 But that is the truth that is being faced by Krishna. It will take truckloads of courage for him to stand up to the truth, skin himself of his delusions and a lot of ingenuity and patience to invent a new self.

But so recently as 3 episodes ago we were told that Krishna is nidar, sahasi, takatwar and what did I miss? I also have tremendous faith in the ingenuity and talent of these CVs. I am sure they have a path chalked out for Krishna. I am getting ready to breathe in the dust-up as they trot down this path. 😃

Originally posted by: PRAGMATIC

@ Bubble and Dyehard, 🤗

Well you guys have such a passionate and deep insight into the story and characters that if CVs read this they be impressed with the quality of analysis on their fictional creations.

Originally posted by: Dyehard

Thanks dear Samwa! The most I can say is that I am a fan of the show and the CVs who have created these exciting characters and so I try to understand them instead of being in denial of what I am seeing, just because I fancy one stance over an other! It is important to remember that these characters have not created themselves and that the CVs are the most clued in of us all! Some people here almost think of Krishna as a real person who is the victim of the evil CVs!😆 I don't know how to react to such delusions!😲

Originally posted by: PRAGMATIC

This one story since the beginning had a very clear concept of showing various characters with all shades. Its the choice of the viewers or their mind sets which are reflected very clearly here, is not enough to give CVs a correct feed back but to obliged under TRP pressures and financial aspects. Nonetheless CVs should be applauded in their unrelenting efforts to hammer in the concept so effectively regardless.

Originally posted by: Dyehard

Sam, are you thinking that the CVs are going to go be affected the few Thakur_lovers we have on this forum!?? Do you think they are going to worry about TRPs based on some reactions here? Oh! please don't worry about that!😲😆 They know their core audience very well and the audience understands them very well also. They have not done so well so far without really knowing their own minds!😃
This is a very oddly patched together cross-section of people and so a part of it tends to be skewed, that's all.

Originally posted by: Dyehard

If he is not an honourable Thakur who will take on anything and anybody for love, honour, family and duty, THEN WHO IS KRISHNA SINGH? What does he have to offer? Is he a worthy, upstanding citizen? NO? Is he a great husband/good provider? NO? Is he classy, educated and of good social repute? NO? So how, and in what shape will he reinvent his basic values and his outer form to match?

It is a dismal picture I paint.😕 And I depress myself with each word.😭 But that is the truth that is being faced by Krishna. It will take truckloads of courage for him to stand up to the truth, skin himself of his delusions and a lot of ingenuity and patience to invent a new self.

But so recently as 3 episodes ago we were told that Krishna is nidar, sahasi, takatwar and what did I miss? I also have tremendous faith in the ingenuity and talent of these CVs. I am sure they have a path chalked out for Krishna. I am getting ready to breathe in the dust-up as they trot down this path. 😃

Dye, thank you and that is a wonderful response! 👏

It is a dismal picture indeed, and a highly uphill task - he not only needs to find himself, he also needs a practical solution to becoming that provider and he needs to do it fairly quickly, because I'm quite certain time is running out.

But he is courageous. And to help him, his wife is courageous. Each of these two can move mountains on their own - what is impossible if they play on the same side? I think the ride will be rocky, dusty and roller coaster. But I'm in! 😃

Bubble

Originally posted by: PRAGMATIC

@ Bubble and Dyehard, 🤗

Well you guys have such a passionate and deep insight into the story and characters that if CVs read this they be impressed with the quality of analysis on their fictional creations.