MY HEART WENT OUT..

MY HEART WENT OUT....................

to Sajjan Singh yesterday

Not the Thakur or Amma's Husband or Kesar's FIL or GD's Son

But Sajjan Singh The Dad

It is a fact - parents cannot predict what their children will become or how their behaviour and values will impact or influence their children.

In that regard, most parents today have little to no expectations. There is only the hope and the prayer that the love, trust and care showered on our children will be returned in some measure and that the children will survive, thrive and protect each other.

Yesterday, we saw a father who saw his worst nightmare come true. he looked DEFEATED .......... by his own seed and blood

His two boys - both loved, both nurtured, both protected - turned on each other

For a fight that was not theirs, a cause that they did not personally care for, a crusade that neither desired to undertake or win.

KRISHNA THAKUR

Took a stand yesterday and up went the cheers

But has his stance on the Kesar issue changed? No

Does he really care whether the remarriage happens or not? No

Does he still personally believe that this is a husband wife issue and the stand should be taken by Kesar against Shakti? Yes

So then what was the stand he really took?

As a Krishna fan, I have finally accepted that the Krishna that I took up this show for is gone forever.

He is no longer his Own Man.... ...... he is now Pratigya's Man

I know this now because his OWN STAND on the issue was expressed calmly and rationally BEFORE the altercation.

The much acclaimed stand that he took was not taken rationally or of his motivation but in the heat of passion at seeing his wife being harmed and cornered in his presence.

Though Arhaan's acting is superb and we all love seeing AN angry young man, the Krishna Thakur that we saw yesterday and will continue seeing is to me a COMPROMISE on the part of the CV's. A character that Pratigya fans will appreciate and Krishna fans will grudgingly accept.

THE THAKUR HOME

It was and is the abode of autocracy. Sajjan Singh has inherited this from his father and has bequeathed it to his sons

But as with any autocracy, it cannot survive for long.

With every generation, the unhindered mind is naturally drawn towards peace.

The rebellion grows first silently and then builds to boiling point until autocracy ebbs in silent screams.

Krishna's mind and life was mostly left unhindered by SS. It was Shakti's mind and life that was moulded, endoctrined and influenced by SS.

In my opinion, the rebellion against autocracy in that family is not being carried out by Pratigya but by Krishna. It is Krishna that will take forward the Thakur legacy not Shakti. Shakti's deeds and temperament is such that at some point of time he will be incarcerated.

Yes, Pratigya is vocalizing a rebellion but the true change is Krishna. He is being drawn to order and free speech.......... not surprisingly by Pratigya's stands on these family issues................ but by her very presence in his life.

His actions and thinking show this. He will pass his strength but also his pragmatism down to his children and that is the REAL rebellion against the Thakur Regime. Krishna's practiced philosophy of Changing HIS FUTURE rather than Battling HIS PAST will do away with the long established Thakur Autocracy.

Hope

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

MY HEART WENT OUT''''''..

''''to Sajjan Singh yesterday

Not the Thakur or Amma's Husband or Kesar's FIL or GD's Son

But Sajjan Singh The Dad

It is a fact - parents cannot predict what their children will become or how their behaviour and values will impact or influence their children.

Agreed and agreed that somewhere yesterday I felt a little tug for the old man too...not nice to see your right arm fight the left...

In that regard, most parents today have little to no expectations. There is only the hope and the prayer that the love, trust and care showered on our children will be returned in some measure and that the children will survive, thrive and protect each other.

I dont agree - I have these expectations of my children, I just dont neccasily have the ability to control them and I accept that.....

Yesterday, we saw a father who saw his worst nightmare come true''' he looked DEFEATED '''''' by his own seed and blood

I felt a twinge but am also glad that he got to see the outcome of his ulti shiksha

His two boys - both loved, both nurtured, both protected ' turned on each other

For a fight that was not theirs, a cause that they did not personally care for, a crusade that neither desired to undertake or win. Dont really agree, it may not be Baba's fight but it most certainly is Shakti's - based on his sole desire to finally get rid of his blighted wife and that with the full sanction of his parents to get one of his own preference.....he is NOT going to miss this opportunity as far as he is concerned.....so he does care and does want to succeed at all costs

KRISHNA THAKUR

Took a stand yesterday and up went the cheers Of course! Hurray for our Baba - never doubted him for a minute, he's just being driven by the daily nautanki and his Babu's Bhashan!😆

But has his stance on the Kesar issue changed? No Yes it has! Finally, he has given importance and declared that importance by saying forget Babu, he, Baba, will not allow the crime that they want to carry out happen.

Does he really care whether the remarriage happens or not? No

Well, maybe not enough to dedicate his entire life in preventing it from happening, like flippin Babu, but enough to once again stand against most of his loved ones and stand shoulder to shoulder with his Babu in trying to do the right thing. The only difference between him and Babu is he is not mincing his words - he has said these people are like animals so he is enforcing his will on them - not seeking to persuade them with words like Babu does.

Does he still personally believe that this is a husband wife issue and the stand should be taken by Kesar against Shakti?

Yes Not necessarily, as he has definitely not turned his back on the issue the way he appeared to be doing previously - he now is making it his business to get involved which he wasnt before.

So then what was the stand he really took?

"Enought crap - you dont want to listen to sense so I will impose sense upon you and know that in the future I am making it clear to you that I will oppose you if you act in a sub-human or illegal manner" - pretty big stand if you ask me!

As a Krishna fan, I have finally accepted that the Krishna that I took up this show for is gone forever. Disagree

He is no longer his Own Man''''.. he is now Pratigya's Man Oh so dont agree.....but too much to say!😆

I know this now because his OWN STAND on the issue was expressed calmly and rationally BEFORE the altercation.

The much acclaimed stand that he took was not taken rationally or of his motivation but in the heat of passion at seeing his wife being harmed and cornered in his presence.

Though Arhaan's acting is superb and we all love seeing AN angry young man, the Krishna Thakur that we saw yesterday and will continue seeing is to me a COMPROMISE on the part of the CV's. A character that Pratigya fans will appreciate and Krishna fans will grudgingly accept.

I accept the changes wholeheartedly as for the betterment of Krishna without his own character suffering!

THE THAKUR HOME

It was and is the abode of autocracy. Sajjan Singh has inherited this from his father and has bequeathed it to his sons

But as with any autocracy, it cannot survive for long. Agreed

With every generation, the unhindered mind is naturally drawn towards peace.

The rebellion grows first silently and then builds to boiling point until autocracy ebbs in silent screams.

Krishna's mind and life was mostly left unhindered by SS. It was Shakti's mind and life that was moulded, endoctrined and influenced by SS.

In my opinion, the rebellion against autocracy in that family is not being carried about Pratigya but by Krishna. It is Krishna that will take forward the Thakur legacy not Shakti. Shakti's deeds and temperament is such that at some point of time he will be incarcerated.

Yes, Pratigya is vocalizing a rebellion but the true change is Krishna. He is being drawn to order and free speech'''' not surprisingly by Pratigya's stands on these family issues ''. but by her very presence in his life.

Dont know about that. Krishna has had no problem in speaking his mind when it suited him - he just didnt speak up against the oppressionistic ways of his household, never went against the automatic assumption of male prevalence over women, or indeed right over wrong. I agree with you that Krishna is changing though and definitely for the better!

His actions and thinking show this. He will pass his strength but also his pragmatism down to his children and that is the REAL rebellion against the Thakur Regime. Krishna's practiced philosophy of Changing HIS FUTURE rather than Battling HIS PAST will do away with the long established Thakur Autocracy''''.. .

and that my frind has to be a good thing so jiyo Baba - you are a true man before you are a Thakur - as it should be!⭐️

Hope - Lovely post Hope - thanks for all your hard work and thought provoking comments!🤗

Originally posted by: stillhopeful

MY HEART WENT OUT....................

to Sajjan Singh yesterday

Not the Thakur or Amma's Husband or Kesar's FIL or GD's Son

But Sajjan Singh The Dad

It is a fact - parents cannot predict what their children will become or how their behaviour and values will impact or influence their children.

In that regard, most parents today have little to no expectations. There is only the hope and the prayer that the love, trust and care showered on our children will be returned in some measure and that the children will survive, thrive and protect each other.

Yesterday, we saw a father who saw his worst nightmare come true. he looked DEFEATED .......... by his own seed and blood

His two boys - both loved, both nurtured, both protected - turned on each other

For a fight that was not theirs, a cause that they did not personally care for, a crusade that neither desired to undertake or win.

KRISHNA THAKUR

Took a stand yesterday and up went the cheers

But has his stance on the Kesar issue changed? No

Does he really care whether the remarriage happens or not? No

Does he still personally believe that this is a husband wife issue and the stand should be taken by Kesar against Shakti? Yes

So then what was the stand he really took?

As a Krishna fan, I have finally accepted that the Krishna that I took up this show for is gone forever.

He is no longer his Own Man.... ...... he is now Pratigya's Man

I know this now because his OWN STAND on the issue was expressed calmly and rationally BEFORE the altercation.

The much acclaimed stand that he took was not taken rationally or of his motivation but in the heat of passion at seeing his wife being harmed and cornered in his presence.

Though Arhaan's acting is superb and we all love seeing AN angry young man, the Krishna Thakur that we saw yesterday and will continue seeing is to me a COMPROMISE on the part of the CV's. A character that Pratigya fans will appreciate and Krishna fans will grudgingly accept.

THE THAKUR HOME

It was and is the abode of autocracy. Sajjan Singh has inherited this from his father and has bequeathed it to his sons

But as with any autocracy, it cannot survive for long.

With every generation, the unhindered mind is naturally drawn towards peace.

The rebellion grows first silently and then builds to boiling point until autocracy ebbs in silent screams.

Krishna's mind and life was mostly left unhindered by SS. It was Shakti's mind and life that was moulded, endoctrined and influenced by SS.

In my opinion, the rebellion against autocracy in that family is not being carried out by Pratigya but by Krishna. It is Krishna that will take forward the Thakur legacy not Shakti. Shakti's deeds and temperament is such that at some point of time he will be incarcerated.

Yes, Pratigya is vocalizing a rebellion but the true change is Krishna. He is being drawn to order and free speech.......... not surprisingly by Pratigya's stands on these family issues................ but by her very presence in his life.

His actions and thinking show this. He will pass his strength but also his pragmatism down to his children and that is the REAL rebellion against the Thakur Regime. Krishna's practiced philosophy of Changing HIS FUTURE rather than Battling HIS PAST will do away with the long established Thakur Autocracy.

Hope

Originally posted by: Kai_Hiwatari

hi Hope!

it's been ages since i visited this forum or watched the serial!

however, i am always drawn towards posts from the 'true' krishna fans who like and admire him for the person he is!!!

shakti vs krishna track was in the bag from day1, the difference in how both the boys were treated it was sure shakti would reach the boiling point!!

strangest part abt MKAK is unlike k serials the leading character achieves all her goals and mission riding on her husband!!

cheers

Originally posted by: krishna_chalbo

Makes me wonder was he thinking along the lines that it is a tiff between them two so i don't need to get involved they will sort it out which is a very similar attitude krishna has towards any problem in that house. SS didn't intervene till he was at the risk of loosing one of his son and that is eaxctly how baba reaction is in most cases. He doesn't get involved till Prats 'aatam sammaan' or prats sfatey is at stake. SS has done it b4 also Baba doesn't hesitate from insulting his mother on any occasion and i have never seen SS intervene except when Baba compared his mother to pratigya before Prats confessed she loved Krishna.

KC

OMG you expressed my thoughts exactly. yes, he did not intervene. it was a tiff between the boys and he left it at that. he has trained his boys to be tough and fighters so in his mind they were having a disagreement using their body rather than words. Remember what Krishna said one day. he said to Prats that his father disagrees with his mother in the same way as hers - the only difference is the method used. i.e. physical duel vs. verbal duel.

though the actual gun and sickle thing was not at all what he expected. hata pai is something totally different than fatal bloodshed eh. even the brute knows that.

I know that he is a wife beater and a violent man but I don't think he has ever taught his sons to fight amongst themselves. When SS says they are his shers. it means they are his fighters in the OUTSIDE world. Infighting is not the shiksha he has given them.

I cannot think of a single instance KC when the brothers have fought between themselves for a reason other than Pratigya or her stands. Can you

If Krishna disagrees with something that Shakti has done he expresses his disgust with his expressions not words or physical strength. Since the beginning of the show Shakti has always protected his kid brother from the outside world, remained silent on his antics and actually amused by his mischieveous ways. sibling rivalry exists even when children are brought up by non violent parents. When the show started I remember Krishna and Komal treating Shakti with the defference that he was entitled to as an older brother.

Now my doubts and questions have already been highlighted by you. If Krishna is only standing up for the right thing only because of his love for Pratigya is it actually a change in his basic nature, change in his ideology. I liked it when he beat up Angad as he did what he thgt was correct whereas in y'days episode I felt his actions contradicted his own believes. It saddens me to see Krishna's character go down the drain

That is exactly how I felt when I saw the show. I was not proud of Krishna as a person. Just glad he protected his wife. Krishna's individuality is slowly slipping away for me. Yesterday the fight sequence looked like a tiff between a leashed Rottweiler (leash held by pratigya) and an unleashed German Shepperd. Both equally strong, equally dangerous.

I respect people who do what they believe in. I am not saying they are always correct and should be allowed to do what they want. If there actions are wrong efforts should be made to change the thought the actions will automatically improve and most people react to it. If the actions are unlawful and inhuman then they should be penalised but it should not stop there after that the procedure of redemption starts. Baba has always been condemend for his actions but no effort has been made to change his basic ideology and i just wonder when thats going to happen


KC totally agree. Inspite of his brave stand yesterday. I firmly believe that Baba does not believe in this fight. he is only doing it for Pratigya. His stand was so clear KC before the argument

I still dont get why she is trying to save this marriage this marriage is the worst possible thing for kesar. the remarriage is the best possible thing to happen to Kesar.

The marriage is beyond salvageable now it is just a life time sentence of misery and torture. So why preserve it? In fact if it were me I would let the bigamous marriage happen. Then take Kesar away and make her file for divorce based on that. Shakti will not only have to pay legally for bigamy but civilly with a very healthy alimony. Kesar can then restart her life afresh with money and Pratigya's guidance and support. As long as Shakti does not marry Arushi, Pratigya should not stop this remarriage.

Pratgya baffles me. she is supposedly a liberal person fighting for progressive values. Yet she told Kesar that a woman is incomplete without procreating, a woman has no astitva without her husband or marriage????????? Are these the thoughts of a progressive woman??? was the expectation that if she stands there adamantly and keeps on at the so called 'junglees'the issue would be resolved amicably or the reaction would be passive??? Did she not see the compromising position that she was placing Krishna in??? I did not understand how she took him in so quckly once she got hurt ??? Her actions yesterday baffled me as usual.