Chandan and Bhujang........

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Posted: 15 years ago
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SS today told Krishna............

"Je Rahim uttam prakriarti, ka kari sakat ku-sang,
Chandan vish vyapat nahi, lipat rahat bhujang"

Translation - Rahim says that just as the cobra wound around a sandalwood tree cannot transfer its poison to the tree so also evil cannot be transferred to a good person.

wat did he mean by this......

was it that..............my child is good, it is only the company is bad.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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nice catch, i saw that too and was thinking about all the metaphors with that phrase. one of the other thing is that the cobra has venom which is also warm/hot and harmful. But the sandalwood (chandan) is cool/soothing and harmless hence the cobra is attracted to it.
so if SS really thinks that pratigya has krishna spellbound and therefore will not let go of him- this saying is really apt in demonstrating that.

however, we the viewers know that it was krishna who pursued pratigya and actually pratigya is the chandan who is in the middle of evil (cobra/takurs) and like chandan tree she will stand tall since the evil will not touch her!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Nisha and Anjali, thanks for clarifying that. I often cannot understand SS! That is interesting and what is even more sad is they sat there, ready to commune with god and are insulting their own son and DIL....do they think god is actually happy they are stopping someone from worshipping? that is a big sin. Also I wonder at the pandits, wouldn't a good and wise one say 'the more the merrier'....
But bear with me, I have this lurking in my mind, been wondering for the last few days, if SS isn't playing a game, a deep game.
I know he is keeping his facade of a good father in front of Krishna, making his mother the fall guy. But lately, SS seems to be keeping an eye on Krishna, almost looking to see how deep his love for Pratigya is. I think he is also seeing how deep Pratigya's love is.
When Krishna left his father to drink that water, from washing his mother's feet, SS just looked like he was expecting Krishna to do that. I think he even said something like 'he hasn't changed/ or I knew he was going to do that'. And today during the puja, he also said somethng that showed he wasn't surprised by Krishna standing by his wife.
I know SS did like Pratigya after the wedding, he would constantly warn his wife against making trouble for P. His feelings changed for her the instant she revealed to the world that she and krishna do not share a bed. In that instant he disliked and hated her, for the insult to his son because he knew how much K loved P. P doesn't know the extreme K went to marry her, going against his caste and then slitting his own wrist - but SS knows this. So after that haven and P\'s revelation, I think then and there, he came around to his wife's thinking that P had done jadoo to K.
I know this is out of thin air, what if everything SS is doing is to see if P really, genuinely cares for K?...what if at the last min he changes his mind and tells K about his wife's plan to kill P?......SS will never lose Krishna.....that is for sure...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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i haven't watched this serial since the beginning so cannot really comment on SS feelings towards pratigya. i do believe that he was indifferent at first since he fulfilled his sons' wish and he was gonna get more votes because of this alliance. he really liked her when pratigya saved Kesar's baby (SS grandson). i think more of his hatred is due to his own ego and her defiance of that.

In wednesday's epi SS said that Krishna will never change- meaning he will always support pratigya. the huge evidence of this was Krishna's support of pratigya after angad fiasco.

If i was a strategist and master player, seeing the events, i would want something done quick about pratigya. the bond is new and tender- this is the right time to break it before it deepens!

as much as i understand SS, he is a sly liar. he will only tell krishna that amma wanted to kill pratigya when that is the last resort to save himself.


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Posted: 15 years ago
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good post.........if u remember pratigya told the exact line to her father when they questioned her on her decision to marry krishna and demanded hw the hell is she going to live in that house..........there pratigya compared herself to chandan and krishna/thakurs to snake.....but here SS made out pratigya as snake and krishna/thakurs as chandan................😛
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I think SS got his imagery all wrong. Yes there is a snake involved, but it is the snake around Shiva's neck.
If there is one comparison that springs readily about Krishna it is with Shiva. In his attitude, his power, his sex-appeal, his ability to hold the world's poison in his KanT and not become poisonous himself, in his perfect love with P, which in its entirety, is parallel to SHIV_SHAKTI - in all these aspects K remind me of Shiva.
The snake around Shiva's neck has the completely opposite symbolism from the snake on the chandan ped.
Shiva's snake is the symbol of the coiled 'Kundalini' which begins to rise in a human being when they start on their spiritual journey. All of Krishna's potential, his goodness, his strength of character, his love, his spirituality were all lying dormant - till his eyes met Pratigya's. Everything came to a boil then, just as things happen in a person's life when their Kundalini is awakened.
So while SS was right about the coiled snake, he mistook the quality of his own son. Krishna is no cool sandalwood tree in a forest but the vibrant, fiery, dynamic Shiva!

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Originally posted by: Dyehard

I think SS got his imagery all wrong. Yes there is a snake involved, but it is the snake around Shiva's neck.
If there is one comparison that springs readily about Krishna it is with Shiva. In his attitude, his power, his sex-appeal, his ability to hold the world's poison in his KanT and not become poisonous himself, in his perfect love with P, which in its entirety, is parallel to SHIV_SHAKTI - in all these aspects K remind me of Shiva.
The snake around Shiva's neck has the completely opposite symbolism from the snake on the chandan ped.
Shiva's snake is the symbol of the coiled 'Kundalini' which begins to rise in a human being when they start on their spiritual journey. All of Krishna's potential, his goodness, his strength of character, his love, his spirituality were all lying dormant - till his eyes met Pratigya's. Everything came to a boil then, just as things happen in a person's life when their Kundalini is awakened.
So while SS was right about the coiled snake, he mistook the quality of his own son. Krishna is no cool sandalwood tree in a forest but the vibrant, fiery, dynamic Shiva!


brilliant post..............👏👏👏i too found it difficult to relate to when they made comparisons btwn krishna and lord krishna..........agreed, they have the charisma and naughtiness in common but krishna never wooed more than one girl....it was always one and only one---pratigya........like sati and parvati for shiva.....
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: dhakarn


brilliant post..............👏👏👏i too found it difficult to relate to when they made comparisons btwn krishna and lord krishna..........agreed, they have the charisma and naughtiness in common but krishna never wooed more than one girl....it was always one and only one---pratigya........like sati and parvati for shiva.....



Yes, na? when you see a portrayal of a really ideal love, which is so well-rounded and all-consuming, a comparison to Shiva-Parvati is inevitable!

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Posted: 15 years ago
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thanks nisha for elaborating the meaning...........
SS doesnt really knows the meaning of what he said............he is the true source of all poison that has gotten into his son's mind..........n he is blaming pratigya for that.........

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