Sid might b right but Armaan is not Wrong

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Heyaaaaaaa girlzz..remember me lol One day no topic I thought u all forgot me..i had very less net connection and every time I logged in there were topics bashing Ammy and praising Sid lol..And I was not able to comment or make a topic...So here I am to pour 😊

Even if I write for ARSH, or even if Armaan was shown very less in the show today, I believe Armaan deserves his own post i.e a post in his defense today. Armaan is not an angel and he may be confused as anything, but this man has a heart of Gold and i felt I have more love for him while I was watching today's episode.


Sid saying all that to Armaan in the BB court..I did feel bad for sid watching the promo when I thought Ridhimma was crying in the ya Rabba song..Man she had the shaadi pic..so the big time looser is not Sid but only Ammy, so I stand corrected .. 😆 I still feel bad no more bad for Sid but only for my Ammy... So after this is Sid is loosing something..no way ..in all these process Sid is only a gainer and Ammy the looser..why and HOW???.


Sid married Ridhimma, in fact he almost emotionally (society and Shashank ) blackmailed her into marrying him.I know there are reasons that can prove this act to be shown as innocence from both Sid and Ridhimma.. It was never a part of Sid's plan to marry Ridz …. Yes, when the opportunity presented itself, he grabbed it with both hands, but it wasn't a plan devised by him..So, it is different.. But the fact is Sid is married to Ridz..the first step of Sid Gaining and Armaan loosing.😕

Then when Ammy came back and Ridhimma to honor the societal pressures choose Sid on Armaan..again Sid the winner and Armaan the looser

Finally when Ridhimma started to love Sid .. which Sid did not know but still doubted if she has Armaan on the priority, Still Sid was not a looser but a gainer.. Ultimately when he got to know that Ridhimma loves him, after her confession on birthday night and yarabba song picture scene..Sid is the ultimate winner and Armaan sad sadly the looser..Sounds dramatic, I know..But its a show and it is dramatic..

In sum,

Sid entered Ridhimma's life to help her fetch Armaan, but finally married her occupying the place of someone, such an undesirable man in Ridhimma's life is now her most wanted man is not Ammy but Sid ..grrrrr😡

Sid, by no definition of the word, is looser here..He is still in the process of gaining Ridhimma fully for himself….Yes he is trying hard to get her to himself, it will take a lot of time time to set things right and one among such things was to find a good girl for Ammy, …unless and until Sid suceeds in this goal of his..he will not get Ridhimma fully for himself and have Armaan suceeded on the move on.


Now Sid after saying all that to Ammy and he over hearing the conversation of SR, Ammy would build up on having guilt pangs and would defo damage himself beyond repair ( something more than Street fights..ending up leaving Sanjeevani for Good and never gonna be in face to face with Ridhimma ) …He would go to the ultimate 'black' mode..

There's a whole lot of difference between Armaan and Sid, there's a whole lot of difference between grey and black..Shilpu will be hurt, she'll be mad, she'll be blinded by rage and lose her senses for some time..But the day she sees that this man after all this needs some support in life to go for a shelter to rest his tired head, she'll be still there for him, forgetting all the pain that she fetched herself because of him.

Felt like adding this as an afterthought . I am not at all trying to exonerate Ammy from all the charges here. He is definitely guilty of embarking on a no move on spree which indirectly affects the others, he is definitely guilty of trying to lead a life like this - street fights and other dark pasts which would get him no good, and I agree that he is at fault here, I am all for him paying for his mistakes, I can already feel Shilpu's pain, which she went through on hearing about his truth..The intent of this post was only to make my POV clear on the differences and intensity in pain of Ammy and Sid, and to express my opinion on how I believe Sid hasn't gone as far as Ammy with his pains, he hasn't turned as dark, and that there is a whole world of differences between Armaan and Sid . As Sid is a clear winner and Armaan looser as far as Ridhimma is concerned. So my best wishes there to stay with Armaan to move on and have the love of his life Shilpu.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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hi sue....

GOD.....i m addicted to ur topics i realized yesterday.......lolz

so much said abt sid and armaan in last few hours.......even if we suppose that sid is not selfish but his words prove is wrong!


armaan just need some space n time n some one's love in his life and that some one is shilpa so i m not worried abt him

angel is here for my baby.....!


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Hey I love yr post..I know you are an Armaan lover but u give yr opion on Sid with respect that is why I like yr post and want to comment....

I hope it ok to give my POV...

Well I dont think any one is a loser or winner here..THIS is life all ..things happen in life which are beyond yr control...Ridz did not want to marry Sis but she did , vice a versa for Sid...

So they fell in love thats it...but Ridz does not want Armi unhappy as she know he truly loved her...
Armaan I have nthing against him .I dont want him to move on...I know it is nt easy to love again after you hv loved soo hard...

But I dont like him being oblivious to ppl and the world around himmwhether it is Shilpa, Ridz or the hospital..
He knows and knows well his fighting will hurt Ridz so he is fighting I dont like this...
But if you say it is human then accept Armaan s atttiude is not right...

He can do sooo much help ppl around him..be nice to ppl around ..We did see that side of him when he was getting SR 2gether....

I am not crticizing Armaan but am finding it hard to see and understand his love now..as love is not always to WIn..

Sorry if I hurt anyone,,Just my pov....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I just hope Shilpa is here to give Armaan all that he needs but I don't want Shilpa to be the only one to shower her love on him he should love her too.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: uppaas



I am not crticizing Armaan but am finding it hard to see and understand his love now..as love is not always to WIn..



Easier said than done, my friend.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I think in both cases there is a win and a loss at every step...
I'd rather not think of this as a 'point' system as if one gains and one looses b/c we all know in life every small gain can be greater than any victory and any small loss could lead us to destruction...
just because siddhant has riddhima today doesn't mean he has jannat on his feet... and just because armaan lost ridddhima doesn't mean he has hell
just perspection i guess. one can look at the situation in a critical way or be emphathetic towards it
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Posted: 14 years ago
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very nice post yaar.
I can't tell any thing about sid after seeing todays episode.
I feel bad for ammy.my poor baby
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sue, where have you been, missed your posts about armaan. Thankyou for summating what Armaan and Sid are going through. I must add that there is no right or wrong way of looking at any given situation. What armaan and Sid are going through is really because of the circumstance they are as you rightly said.

Thank you for once again taking me with you in your journey about my dear Armaan. Love
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@Sue .. Thanks for this topic... I found one place which seems sane at the moment where i can vent without creating problems... I think I agree and don't agree with the post :-) since I am not too regular on the forum and am not a member of any AT... just want to say at the outset that - I am an AR fan... Armaan is my favorite character in this show so far... haven't really decided on whether I am a fan of anyone else at the moment... and I have a habit of rambling.. so those of you who read.. apologies in advance for a post which is likely to be long... pls bear with me.... and being an Armaan and AR fan does not mean I hate everybody else in the show... I try to be objective most of the times..... though these days I end up defending Armaan most of the times because i think except for AR fans or armaan fans who sometimes defend him blindly... most other people on the forum seem to be extremely understanding about everyone but Armaan...

so coming to the crux fo the matter after a long foreword ;-) I agree with you that the intensity of Armaan's pain cannot be compared with anyone else's pain other than probably Riddhima's after she realised the truth of Armaan and went looking for him (may be before that too.... but I think before that she had this hatred for him which was because she believed that he ditched her)... but right now no one else in the frame is going through as intense a pain as Armaan is... Shilpa also is definitely at a bad place... but I don't know abt her past so I won't comment on that... she definitely is lonely.... but those problems are probably problems that she has already dealt with and at a certain level I think she has achieved a sense of acceptance for the rest of the truths in her life.... and may be she has some hopes abt the future wrt Riddhima... true right now it is heart break time for her too ... but she has known armaan for two or three weeks?? or may be a month? and she started falling for him only quite recently... true for her at the moment that pain would be intense and Armaan's harsh words to her makes it a bit more difficult may be... but I would still think that Armaan's pain is the greater at the moment... He too came from a broken home... I don't know abt shilpa's home or the conditions in which she grew up... so I can't compare abt whether her past was more painful... but all I wanted to say is Armaan Mallik is from an affluent family... but Armaan Mallik did not have anyone... other than his Bi when he came to sanjeevani.... he was a brat.... but a brat who was good hearted.... and he has never never shared the pain of his background with anyone.... not sure if even Riddhima understands that part well.... But then he fell for Riddhima... and she became the be all and end all of his life.... he loved her more than himself... more than anything else in the whole wide world... she was his world....he had found a family with her, her family ( i had loved his bonding with nani and the original padma), and his friends ( atul, anjie, rahul, muskaan, niki..).. he was there for her even during the times she was angry with him or shouting at him or upset with him.... even when they weren't really together... and then the fateful day came... and then that diagnosis and his decision to go away... and although many people seem to think that Riddhima suffered the most during that phase... since I believe Armaan's love for Riddhima ... I am sure he suffered equally badly or may be even more than that during that period... with the prospect of going mad at such a young age and the fact that you yourself have kept the one eprson away from you who made life worth living for you.... it was definitely not an easy thing for Armaan to have gone through... and even if it was his own decision and he has not blamed anyone for it... it would still ahve bee a most painful time... except that the viewers got to see chudail riddhima in all her glory whereas that part of Armaan's life has never been shown so no one connects to him there... and people relegate the seriousness of his condition to just memory loss and what not... whereas the diagnosis was that he will go mad... that he will lose all his mental faculties... anyway fate brought them together once again... but as long as he was not certain of his recovery he couldn't bring himself to give any hope to Riddhima so he goes away... but with a renewed determination that he will fight his state... for her and for their love... and thsi time he succeeds... but alas by then fate had other plans and Riddhima was married... and he came back only to find that he was no longer wanted... and riddhima herself asked him why he came back!!! ima gine having to be in that kind of a situation... the way he found out abt the marriage was absolutely wrong and the way everyone treated him... abominable!!! just came back from a life altering illness only to find tht the person who was your world is no longer yours.... and everythign had changed... none of your friends are there around, absolutely no one to call his own in a place which was once the scene of his happiest memories...no one other than shahsank even gave him a hug after he came back! no one asked him how are you Armaan or how did you get through it!! Everyone started with if you loved her how could you do this to her or why did you leve her!!! and he himself has thought multiple times during those periods that eh shouldn't have come back.. he shouldn't have got better.... but before he had time to digest things the divorce drama, the confusions in his mind as to whether riddhima wants him still and is doing all this for the sake of others ... and he again gets his hopes up for sometime.... only to be shattered anew... and then shashank asking him for help ... making him stay at sanjeevani eventhough he wanted to leave.... ( I willnever understand this part).... and finally blaming himself for the doori between husband and wife he takes it upon himself to get them together or present opportunities to get them together... and he just kept ignoring his pain by telling himself that he needs to do things with a smile... basically he had a maksad that was still helping someone who was still dear to him.... and then they got together... and boom... life is back to square one... he has no one... JP and Jiggy might becompanions for masti... but they are not people with whom Armaan has any real bond... not people with whom he can talk abt his pain... and SR he has a bond with them... a dard ka rishta... of havign seen each other through some bad phases in life... but since they are part of his problem he cannot talk to them either... so basically he ends up trying to ignore his pain rather than dealing with it and everyone happily goes on ignorant of the fact that the guy is hurting and that it is natural to hurt and take time to move... tell me did riddhiam really move on till she got married?? and did she even try to move on? and how exactly do you show others that you are 'trying' to move on? Isn't the normal thing to give them spoace and for friends other than your ex to be ther for you.... but midn you even with all that he was still doing ok... till Shilpa came and she became enamored with SR... although Shilpa had no idea of what she was doing... she scraped open all the flakes on his wounds by mentioning SR continuously to him in every conversation and then she got the diary and started talking to him abt his own story in all its details!! tell me how many people who are trying to forget things would want to be reminded of either what you lost or what all you had done for that person you lost , everyday? obviosuly he is not gonna react nicely to that.... pls.. I am not bashing shilpa here.. I am saying that she unintentinally scraped all his wounds open... and then riddhima - those two instances where she accuses Armaan - amazing the levels to which you can go!!! the first tiem of Atrmaan wanting her post!! seriously? and her assertions that she knows Armaan!! you really ahve to be at the recieving end of such barbs for you to know how much it will pain when that one person who is supposed to know you better than anyone else starts talkign rubbish abt you... and go on to claim that she knows you better than anyone else... and then her accusation that Armaan's prank on sid was because of Sid being her husband and because they ahd a past!!! seriosuly what would you feel at such a time!!! and on top of that sid asking for armaan's help regarding riddhima pataoing, riddhima's party ( he did ask him to come so that Armaan can help him with the party.. although ultimately he didn't take help from armaan)... then the street fight saga started.... I again have a question abt that too.... Riddhima is supposed to have accepted Armaan with all his taur tareeke... and in kash times she had even organized a fight for him .. so why all the hue and cry abt the fight now? Had she not given him the kasam wouldn't he have been able to defend himself? and with her constant preachign of move on and her dialogues on tumhe meri kasam, tumhara har chot mujhe dard deta hai and all that she really expects that the person will be able to move on? and isn't moving on somethign that universally takes time? aren't people entitled time to grieve? riddhima is as good as dead for Armaan and he is entitled to mourn his loss.... he was doing fine with his mourning till the baove mentioned calamities happened in his life... and now the dam he was trying to kepe inside has burst and he has no idea how to deal with that kind of pain.... unless you have ever gone through a break up in your life or you have lost a loved one you will never understand that kind of grief.... all I can say is that I don't call that being stubborn.. if people are not on his case constantly he would have handled himself better.... all Riddhima's attempts at gettign Armaan back on track are foolish.. they just rekindle every damn memory he has of her... she should leave him alone.... Armaan will learn to handle his life and that is the only way it can be done....

now coming to Sid -Armaan - love their relationship.... and liked the way Sid spoke to him... except for the fact that he blamed Armaan for the problems in his life and that eh said riddhima ne bahut kucch saha hai tere wajah se.... same way as the problems in Armaan's life cannot be blamed on SR, the problems in SR's life cannot be blamed on Armaan... and I disagree with SR fans who go on and on abt how Armaan si an attention seekign spoilt child... he has not seeked riddhima's attention at all... he was trying his level best to keep things to himself... he never wanted her to find out... and he told her too to leave him alone even when she foudn out!! and why sucha hue and cry abt a fight where he knows how to handle himself??? isn't he a champion fighter? why does everyone need to give him bhashan on it? right or wrong that was his way of dealing with pain... and he would get over it with time.... but to say that SR's life is in problem because of Armaan is a little too much... Sid should ahve had that convo with Riddhima and not with Armaan... yes he can talk to Armaan that people who care for him are sad to see him hurting.... he can tell him to stop fighting ... eh can tell him not to hurt people who are trying to come close to you... but he definitely cannot tell him that riddhima has suffered already because of him!!! what abt Armaan's suffering because of riddhima? can't sid see what riddhima's actiosna re doing to Armaan? and how can he blame Armaan for being the reason for hsi aaj being destroyed.... those were my two grouses abt Sid today.. no questions abt Sidmaan's right on each other.... or the right to set a friend on the right path or whatever... i didn't like these two statements

and I should not talk abt Riddhima since I am really at a loss of words for her.... no apologies AT ALL to shilpa after some really low blows to her the previosu day.... and just the previous day you were tellign Armaan that shilpa is not a nice girl and that she is not good for you... and today she is telling shilpa she will get lot of pain if she tries to apnao Armaan!!!almost like telling shilpa Armaan is not right for her!!! I really really hated that statement from the bottom of my heart!! After three years of loving the guy, where he gave you a whole lot more happiness than sadness the one thing you have today to tell him and also anyone else abt him is that he gives a lot of pain or that he knows very well to give pain to others!! Disgusting is the only word I can say abt RM!! Unless she seriously redeems herself she is off my book of likeable characters for the rest of dmg... I don't want to hate her... but at the moment I truly hate RM for these things!!! she ahs no qualms abt painting a bad picture abt Armaan in front of anyone... it almost sounds like her 3 years was a punishment!!! and she was such a mahaan person to have accepted Armaan in her life!!! i wish CVs would do something to redeem that!!! it feels so stupid to hear 3 years of love reduced to just statements to all and sundry as to how difficult it was to be his love?? wake up RM and stop talking bad abt people who are not in your good books currently!!
I don't want Arnaan falling for Shilpa right now just because fans want to see Arsh chemistry and close scenes... i think keeping Armaan's character in mind they shoudl show Arsh as friends first.... and they shoudl show some strong friendship between the two before they show ArShi happening as a couple!! This is what I feel!! Phewwww!! if anyone read this much... thanks a lot .


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Sue meri jaan i miss u soooo much can't for u to get new net connection i miss ur topic as well

You are right from the start of the show it was Armaan who lost everything he kinda even lost his friends as well his love

Sid and Ridz both lost their love as well but at the right tym they both gt each other they both moved on with supporting each other but here with Armaan he has no one Shilpa is there bt the thing is it will take some tym for Armaan to accept Shilpa even as his frnds

Now the point is Both Armaan and Sid are not at fault here yh its Armaan who lost everything and Sid gained it that too only bcz of Armaan right now at this point you can't choose one side if you look through both POV you will see both are right

Pre-cap definitely Armaan will feel guilty he will feel more thn guilty for this and Sid was kinda right Armaan was Riddhima past if she knws him that much thn she should stay away from him and from on i will say SR both should stay away from Armaan i want Shilpa to be with him

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