I like your topic.😊
I am pretty good at (sometime, bluntly) pointing out mistakes (including mine). In fact, I think I am my worst critic. Where others are concerned, I point it out mostly to make things better, though others do have the tendency to look at it as fault-finding. O' well.
Interesting, you say that we make mole-hills out of faults of those we dislike, and look through rose-colored of those we love. I don't know if I fit in the mold. I may fault-find the ones I dislike, but I almost always know the true reason behind my thoughts -- mostly, I can see why and how my perspective on an issue influences my view of the other --- and I am also deeply aware of why the other person may be so. So, sometimes, empathy kicks in, and behavior is somewhat excused. For the ones I like, I do the same -- make excuses sometimes, though I know deep down that I shouldn't. Also, the ones I like -- when I see fault in their actions, I tend to criticize more 'cause I know they can do so much better. Besides, these are usually the people I have to live with. THe ones I dislike, I can avoid. :-) Hmm, seems like with people who aren't anybody to me, dislike and morality creeps in first, and then reasoning and empathy kick in, and for those I love, empathy and love kicks in before reasoning and morality kick in.😳
I don't think anyone can be without bias (unless you are bones, lol). I don' think there is anything wrong in being emotionally supportive of family members and loved ones, even if they have done wrong. We could have made similar mistakes, would we have liked to be left all alone? No, I don't think that people who are the epitome of objectivity are perfect. I would think these can't necessarily experience the beauty of emotions/subjectivity (again, bones comes to mind). That would not be fun, at least in my view.
As to loyalty and bias, I see little connection. I think a person can only be loyal to something and someone he/she believes in. Those inherent beliefs make the person that person, and that is not really bias, in my opinion. It's who the person is. Or are you talking of people who switch loyalities? I say their loyalties lie elsewhere, not with the people. :-)
Taking the example from your post, if my friend saved my life and did a wrong deed, I would not approve. I may understand why, but I think and would consider myself more loyal to the person if I expose the "wrong" doing 'cause that would be better for the person in the long-run. See, if some one shop-lifts, it may be better for the law to know, and have the person do some (community) service (maybee after a small warning), but I would think it better to tell so the person doesn' tthink stealing is okay, and go ahead and rob a bank next time, and go to jail for longer time. I guess I see setting people straight as being loyal to them.😆 Approving of their wrong deeds just 'cause they are related to me ... maybe not so much. That's being untruthful to myself, and what I fundamentally believe in. On second thought, I wouldn't be friends with a person who steals. 😳 Family members, I can't choose them. Besides, even if you try to be loyal to the person, knowing the person has done wrong... suppressed emotions will take over, like the pardes scene with srk.... ' Meri jeeb mein pistol hai, batao sach kya hai. Sach? Sach to yeh hai, sir ki aap sach sun na hi nahi chahte, kyun ki jo sach sun na chahte hai, woh jeb mein pistol and dil mein nafarat le kar nahin aate. Bahut bada kaleja chahiye sach sun ne ke liye, sir! Sach to yeh hai, ki maine sab jooth bola..sab jooth bola maine, ganga se bhi.. aapke ehsaano ke bhoj tale, jooth bolta gaya.... bahut aacha ladka hai rajeev, ciggarette, sharab, ladki, koi aaib nahin hai usme, ek mahaan hindustani ka ladka hai... ladka hai, sir, ladka hai, par hindustani nahin. .... But, I am your son, dad. Shut up and go back to America!!! '. 😆😆 you see, emotions exploded, reasoning clicked in, and kaboom.... family relations didnt' matter. Arjun became more important than rajeev😆😆😆😆
Can you tell I have no real-life experience of such matters? All my examples are fictional. 😆Did I just paint a subjective nature of loyalty? The absolute nature of the relative. I think I just stopped making sense. 😆 Do you consider loyalty an objective construct?
Persy
*Edited to add a stellar scene from Pardes😳, to strengthen arguement😆
Edited by persistence - 15 years ago