Trouble in Paradise - Page 3

Originally posted by: DiyaS

pragya ... true, Mohit was amazing when he was angry, then hurt, then scared ... he showed the whole range of emotions today and he really made us feel his pain and his fears 👏👏👏

Yes, Samrat's gussa was very justified ... the reporter was persistent and annoying in asking personal questions ... they were justified in brushing him off and trying to go away ... but he persisted and finally asked that very insulting question about Gunjan and Neil and Sammy finally lost his cool
What I loved about the fight was that it was still only Gunjan who could stop him ... which makes me hope that she will be with him all through, and never give up on him ... the way he never gave up on her during her paralysis ... so however much he gets hurt and tries to retreat from her, she will keep trying to show him that for her, he is the most important person in her life, just as she is for him ...

I also found Neil's reaction very sensible ... in fact, if I have to describe this track so far, I would say sensible and logical ... which the last couple of tracks have NOT always been!!!!

And I am happy to see the level headed mature intelligent Gunjan back here ... this Gunjan is the main reason I started watching this show ... she and the vulnerable Samrat, so I am very happy with this track so far!

Gunjan will ask Sam to apologise ... he will do it for her ... and also because he also knows inside that he overreacted ... it's his fears of losing her that will come out as anger with her ... because you can only show your anger to those who are closest to you, and those you love the most ... I just hope Gunjan realises this and stays with him all the way ...

fingers crossed for this track!!! and I wrote an equally loooong post again!!!!😆😆😆

i agree... with you... hmm i think sajan are reallt made for eah otehr. very hard to find such a januable couple.... i think i am enjyig the track to but this neil is irritating.. i cant see shee-nah in him again yaar.. thats it...
and now i am not writiong equally long post otherwise this will go on and on coz we can never stop talking abt this amazing jodi u see.... 😆 😆 😆 ... and yeah fingers croosed hoping for the best... 😛

awesome post diya👏👏👏👏👏

Originally posted by: myvoice

Agree with you 😊 . Also, apart from having the fear of losing this relationship, there is also one more thing that is bothering him, he has always inspired Gunjan to go after her dreams or motivated her when she was afraid to try, a pillar of strength, now with Neil's entry he finds his place to be threatened. I would like to point out the scene where he meets gunjan after her first day shoot, when she goes on about how Neil helped her deal with the press conference etc..., watch his expression here, he doesn't like it tat there's someone else who can provide her that support even as a friend, other than him. Didn't samrat-gunjan relationship start off from friendship? 😊

again, very true ... Samrat has been Gunjan's pillar of support all through, her first friend in Excel, the first person to push her out of her shell, and push her into the limelight. It's not his ego that's at play here - he loves to see her shine, to be in the limelight, and is proud of her every time she excels, but he also loves it that she turns to him and only him for support every time, and that she depends on him so much. That for him is a guarantee that she will always be there with him, because she needs him as much as he needs her.

And now with Neil coming in, for the first time, there's another person who's ready to support her, who can see her special qualities and wants to see her shine ... and Samrat is definitely feeling threatened by that as well. Since the time he confessed to her, his recurrent theme has been ... she's mine, she's the first person in my life who is mine and only mine ... and he doesn't want to share her with anyone. Till now, he hasn't had to, except with Nupur, but now that is changing as well, and suddenly she has another person she can call a "friend". he's always had a problem with her even praising anyone else but him ... so this is very much at play here as well. It's all different shades of his possessiveness, which in turn comes from his basic insecurity ... but this is something he HAS to learn to deal with to make their relationship even stronger.

Originally posted by: sonali.19281

Diya before I begin...lemme give a disclaimer

this post may not suit most of you guys..so read it at yer own risk 🤣

ok well I have always had to try harder to comprehend Samrat..sometimes my firends (read baji) have toiled nite n day to expalin with no avail..well after the bet, suhani even the V-day fiasco I could give the guy a benefit of his past leading to his insecurities..but rite now all he needs is ANGER MANAGEMENT classes.. 🤣 In tonights epi he came across as almost a neurotic...I am not going to contemplate on the SG interplay that may follow coz clearly you guys have speculated all the possibilities but I once again want to emphasize on how disappointing the characterization of the leads are...

Case in point.. No 18yr old guy/gal living in a metro like Mumbai would be so oblivious or should I say unmindful of the consequences of his/her decision...Its sad that CVs project college going adults as extremely impulsive kids with no time for introspection...Samrat was one of the first to jump at the offer of Gunjan taking up the movie offer..its BASIC facts that an actor spends more than 12 hrs shooting and is completely in the public eye as far as personal life is concerned..and gossips and rumors are mundane...these days 12 yr olds grow up on gossip magz n channels..so the CVs want us to believe that the young people being represented in the show just take impulsive decisions based on their instinct not weighing it out....really sad..why just movies..any proffession would demand time investment..so in all cases would Samrat get insecure n feel the same

secondly there are multiple posts on samrats emotional turmoil and his reaction n etc etc ..but no where did I see one post which could imply that all said n done what samrat did was not right...coz that poor reporter was just doing his job..its his bread n butter...again I blame the CVs such incidents are glorified unncessarily on pretext of a troubled lead character....its hopeless to even expect some sort of professional dignity...I thought maybe showbiz being their own industry they could interpret it better..but nope they r messin it up here again

finall Y did I chose to ruin yer post 🤣 million dollar question...lemme think abt that 🤣

Sonali 🤗 you finally came out of hiding!!!!!

And you haven't ruined my post! I LIKE disagreements ... it would be boring if everyone agreed on everything 😆😆😆

Okay, your first point ... I agree that Sam has been completely oblivious to the fact that once Gunjan started the movie, she was not gonna be with him 24/7 ... and it's hitting him rather belatedly ... he always was a bit of a dhakkan!!!

I also agree that any profession she took up would have had the same results ...

I had this discussion with someone else - why have the Cv's shown acting ... for two reasons, - one, it's about the only thing they could show her taking up as a profession right now - if she took up an academic or office career, they need to wait five years to show these problems cropping up of Gunjan balancing professional and personal life ... cos however much I love Gunjan, even I can't swallow her becoming corporate hotshot at age 18/19!!! 😉 And I think that is the basic premise of this track - how Samrat handles Gunjan going away from him because of work - she would never distance herself for any other reason, but she would be dedicated to her work whatever field she chose, and this would be a problem at that time. Since this is a college based show, this is the field they chose.

The second thing - not only is it time committments that are taking her away, but also the fact that she is getting so well known so quickly, and being linked with other people - again difficult to show in a corporate job - office romances always happen, but with the SG bond, it would be very difficult to show Sajan getting affected by such things. This kind of field is the best to show such issues - probably the ONLY way to show such issues ...

and this is keeping in mind that the main premise of this track is to get rid of the last of Sam's insecurities and get (hopefully) an SG engagement, committment ... something, anything like that at the end of this track!!!

Why is he shown so neurotic ... because of his childhood ... simple. Any psychology student will tell you that children from broken homes always have these insecurities in them, that they are somehow the cause of their parents' divorce, that they are at fault, and that if their parents could leave them, will anyone else love them enough to stay with them ever. And many kids from broken homes also land up having troubled relationships for the same reason. Samrat's case is exaggerated for dramatic effect, but not overly so.

About the reporter - now there I agree with you completely!!! Samrat WAS wrong to punch the reporter - no question about that. and i liked the way Neil handled that part - saying that everything else we can manage, but Samrat will have to apologise to the reporter, for his own sake, if nothing else. I think the "for his own sake" was more to convince Gunjan to persuade Samrat to apologise ... and that will push her to persuade Samrat because her fear is for the repurcussions on Samrat more than anything else ... though she also knows that Samrat did the wong thing by assaulting the guy who was just doing his job.
Though I have less sympathy for these gossip journos ... but they don't need to be punched!

Originally posted by: cutekins

awesome post diya👏

luking forward for ur ideas

Thanks hon!!! I'll keep adding my thoughts here 😉

Originally posted by: Mahiii

lovely topic dear.... we are just in the swiing of too many emotions like how sajan have....

Thanks, mahi ... yes, this is going to be an emotional track for sure ... as long as it stays somewhat sensible, I will be happy!!!

awesome topic diya!! completely agree with u!! boxes of tissues are ready next to me!! this track is gonna be soo painful...bt i'm loving it as much as i'm hating it and i'm excited to see this side of sajan/sam as much as i know i won't be able to!! godd..i've officially lost it!!😆 bt i'm really looking forward for this track...no matter how emotional and painful it may be..coz at the end of the day...sajan will be together!!

Hey Hon 🤗

ages since i read a post u started hon so it feels great coming here

i am so sorry 4 being late 2 begin with 😳 but i completely have to agree with the fact Diya that this post of urs thou short is so true.

this is perhaps the most vulnerable phase in Samrat' life - the cool dude with a confidence that is so reflected from his i dont care a damn persona actually being the scared vulnerable child underneath who actually is so gullible 4 his own good that he masked all of it under this guise afraid of exposing himself to the world as he is still afraid of losing out on all he has ever had in his life

i am not surprised at him hitting at that journo actually yes - ppl may say he was wrong - but at times u just need that a jerk - a wake up call - at times it could be a crude means of reality check too - yes that guy crossed his line as he asked Gunjan some ques - but had samrat not lost his cool there perhaps he wouldnt have got it out of him - his pent up feelings

he was so shocked by his own act that he finally had 2 ask himself what is wrong ? WHAT' HAPPENING TO ME ? the answer was simple and then crystal clear to him - he was AFRAID

but more than that i loved the fact that he admitted it - Diya hon the most basic step 2 find the remedy of any problem is to find the cause of it - and he has just done that - so that is a positive sign

ppl often know it deep within their hearts whats bothering them but at times ego or i am too big for this things - gets in theri way and they dont admit it even to THEMSELVES whats bothering them but he did it

also hon as u said the points abt Sam' weak moments - well sorry but u seemed 2 have skipped 2 of his most vulnerable moments 😳 where he shed all his inhibitions and exposed himself as never before - one - in the new year ball 2 nups , mistaking her to be Gunji - where we actually saw Sam as never before and next b4 the play in one of the most heart breaking SaJan scenes ever - tumhe khone se darr lagta hai chashmish

4 me Sam was never as scared or gullible as now but yes these are the 2 of the major highs of this part of him previously occurred in his life and i am happy as b4 he aint giving up - he' a fighter and yes is fighting - the 1st time he said those words he wanted Gunjan to know she saw thru him and finally he has now had someone know THE REAL HIM so pls - dont walk away from me - its all he asked for not knowing of course it is nupur - who too cried at thr ordeal of this poor soul

and next of course as friends now he was afraid and said so to her of losing her as w/o her he will be all alone again- a thing he is scared of beyond death itself - as her absence will create a void so big no one could ever fill it

he fought for her then - WITH HER - now he will again have to fight - fight himself , his fears and the world as well - in the sense of those rumors that are maligning Gunjan for them - and he will do so - he'd fight them as he has no other choice - and in the process will discover the courage to acknowledge the fact that he isnt scared of his past anymore - for if he wishes to have a future with her - spend all his life with her - then all he has to do is take 1 single step of - OVERCOMING HIS OWN DEMONS - for happiness isnt a place that far away - its just him who has kept it waiting - as for the first time in life perhaps - happiness is doing just the opposite of what it has always done to him - elude him - no this time SHE' WAITING WITH OPEN ARMS JUST TO WELCOME AND EMBRACE HIM 😳

awesome topic DiyaS

Originally posted by: DiyaS

Sonali 🤗 you finally came out of hiding!!!!!

And you haven't ruined my post! I LIKE disagreements ... it would be boring if everyone agreed on everything 😆😆😆

Okay, your first point ... I agree that Sam has been completely oblivious to the fact that once Gunjan started the movie, she was not gonna be with him 24/7 ... and it's hitting him rather belatedly ... he always was a bit of a dhakkan!!!

I also agree that any profession she took up would have had the same results ...

I had this discussion with someone else - why have the Cv's shown acting ... for two reasons, - one, it's about the only thing they could show her taking up as a profession right now - if she took up an academic or office career, they need to wait five years to show these problems cropping up of Gunjan balancing professional and personal life ... cos however much I love Gunjan, even I can't swallow her becoming corporate hotshot at age 18/19!!! 😉 And I think that is the basic premise of this track - how Samrat handles Gunjan going away from him because of work - she would never distance herself for any other reason, but she would be dedicated to her work whatever field she chose, and this would be a problem at that time. Since this is a college based show, this is the field they chose.

The second thing - not only is it time committments that are taking her away, but also the fact that she is getting so well known so quickly, and being linked with other people - again difficult to show in a corporate job - office romances always happen, but with the SG bond, it would be very difficult to show Sajan getting affected by such things. This kind of field is the best to show such issues - probably the ONLY way to show such issues ...

and this is keeping in mind that the main premise of this track is to get rid of the last of Sam's insecurities and get (hopefully) an SG engagement, committment ... something, anything like that at the end of this track!!!

Why is he shown so neurotic ... because of his childhood ... simple. Any psychology student will tell you that children from broken homes always have these insecurities in them, that they are somehow the cause of their parents' divorce, that they are at fault, and that if their parents could leave them, will anyone else love them enough to stay with them ever. And many kids from broken homes also land up having troubled relationships for the same reason. Samrat's case is exaggerated for dramatic effect, but not overly so.

About the reporter - now there I agree with you completely!!! Samrat WAS wrong to punch the reporter - no question about that. and i liked the way Neil handled that part - saying that everything else we can manage, but Samrat will have to apologise to the reporter, for his own sake, if nothing else. I think the "for his own sake" was more to convince Gunjan to persuade Samrat to apologise ... and that will push her to persuade Samrat because her fear is for the repurcussions on Samrat more than anything else ... though she also knows that Samrat did the wong thing by assaulting the guy who was just doing his job.
Though I have less sympathy for these gossip journos ... but they don't need to be punched!