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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Summer3

I think when politics is involved with either religion or science then trouble starts.

By themselves they are fine.

the word 'politics' shud be classified under the category of 'abuse'
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Emptiness



Pareidolia - is a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant. Common examples include seeing images of animals or faces in clouds, the man-in-the moon etc. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Although that honey-comb one looks doctored.

If those pictures are evidence for the truth of Islam, then what would you say to this...






and what do you see here... mods take note.. these are not explicit images, they are just random forest pictures, if you see something else in these pictures, then you have a dirty perverted mind.





is this a ballet dancer?






I see you posted this pic also, a tree praying in the Islamic style..



but ofcourse, this picture could very well be....


A praying tree. This one facing Amarnath maybe?



Did I say that everyone should embrace Islam? Did I force my religious views by sharing those pics? No. Even others have posted some pics of their Gods, so I decided to share some pics of Islamic miracles. That's it. Why are you asking me "What do you say to this?" Did I not tell you I am just willing to share these pics with the members who are debating in this post?
I just want to say that all these pictures do show that God exists. You asked me what I would say to these pics. This is what my answer is: God exists, though he is intangible.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: debayon

And all of these prove that God exist?😕 It's called natural variation, nature provides for diversity within a species. Have you ever realized that these symbols and signs, be it Islamic or not, have been made by man himself. It's not like God himself came down and self-imposed that OK, this means Allah and that means Jai Mata Di.

So you mean the tree and the fish were created by man? Well, it's your point of view whether you believe in these signs or not. I just wanted to share these with the members debating in this thread. My intention was not to cause controversy. Some other people have also shared pics of their religious views and Gods. Therefore, I decided to do the same. If you don't want to believe, then that's your choice. You will feel God's presence when you start to believe in him. If you don't want to believe then don't.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Hey all the religions are on one side againt Science.
Anyway some of the pics above are provacative, I hope you have the good sense to remove it.
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: rabees011

Did I say that everyone should embrace Islam? Did I force my religious views by sharing those pics? No. Even others have posted some pics of their Gods, so I decided to share some pics of Islamic miracles. That's it. Why are you asking me "What do you say to this?" Did I not tell you I am just willing to share these pics with the members who are debating in this post?

I just want to say that all these pictures do show that God exists. You asked me what I would say to these pics. This is what my answer is: God exists, though he is intangible.



You completely missed the point. You're claiming that these are "miracles" of Islam, and I provided you with a natural explanation of how humans can misperceive vague or obscure stimulus as something clear and distinct. It is a psychological phenomenon called Pareidolia, which is the result of the human mind's tendency to pick recognizable imagery out of chaotic forms. I posted a few examples of images that can misperceived for something else.

And Islam considers itself to be the only "true" religion, how then do you explain the OM symbol on the cow, do you recognise Hinduism as a true religion?
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Emptiness



You completely missed the point. You're claiming that these are "miracles" of Islam, and I provided you with a natural explanation of how humans can misperceive vague or obscure stimulus as something clear and distinct. It is a psychological phenomenon called Pareidolia, which is the result of the human mind's tendency to pick recognizable imagery out of chaotic forms. I posted a few examples of images that can misperceived for something else.

And Islam considers itself to be the only "true" religion, how then do you explain the OM symbol on the cow, do you recognise Hinduism as a true religion?

Hey Allah He Krishna this is unarmed combat;.😆
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Emptiness



You completely missed the point. You're claiming that these are "miracles" of Islam, and I provided you with a natural explanation of how humans can misperceive vague or obscure stimulus as something clear and distinct. It is a psychological phenomenon called Pareidolia, which is the result of the human mind's tendency to pick recognizable imagery out of chaotic forms. I posted a few examples of images that can misperceived for something else.

And Islam considers itself to be the only "true" religion, how then do you explain the OM symbol on the cow, do you recognise Hinduism as a true religion?

You are once again misunderstanding me. This post was opened to debate on the topic of existence of God. I did not say Islam must be embraced by everyone! Did I? I just told you that all these things do indicate that God exists. That's it. This is my opinion and if you want to stick to your opinion, go ahead but please don't question my belief and other people's beliefs in a way that may sound offensive. That's all. Everyone is entitled to their own belief. If I believe in something, do you have to believe in the same thing? No. Similarly, if you believe in something which you think is right, then that doesn't necessarily mean I have to believe which you believe to be right. That's it. Therefore, you stand by your opinion no matter what, and I will stand by my opinion no matter what. If you believe in your religion and its miracles, then you will stand by your religion no matter what. Similarly, if I believe in God and my religion, then I will stand by it no matter what. That's it. Why am I being questioned again and again that how do I know those pictures are correct? I just wanted to share some pics of Islamic miracles. That's it. I didn't mention anything like Islam is superior than Hinduism or Hinduism is superior than Islam. That's my point. I just wanted to share some pics with the members here. That's all. What wrong did I do?
IF is a reputed website that believes in freedom of speech, not abuse of the freedom of speech. As far as I think, I haven't abused this freedom. I have the right to post pics that represent my religion as long as they don't offend anyone. That's all. I have no intention of declaring any religion as being the most authentic out of Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism or Buddhism. If I think those pictures are pictures of Islamic miracles, then you should not try to impose your belief on me. If I want to believe in something, then I will. If you want to believe in something which is contradictory to my belief, then go ahead. No problem, but you must keep in my mind that the authenticity of a religion and its miracles shouldn't be questioned as it can create fights and lead to open bashing.
Please refrain from creating a controversy that might offend others. I think we are getting off topic. So let's just stick to what we were discussing earlier: Whether God exists or not and science versus religion/religion versus science.I would really appreciate it if you can get back on track and refrain from questioning the authenticity of any religion as it might offend others.
I don't know whether you believe in God or not, but those who don't believe in God, I just want to tell them, that a person feels the presence of God around him/her when he/she begins to give his/her mind a chance to believe in God. By this, I am not trying to say that eventually by giving our minds a chance to believe in this fact, we will start to have hallucinations and then start imagining the existence of God. Those who believe in God will understand what I am trying to say.
Let's say two new actors replace the main leads of a show, but they are very raw when it comes to acting, since they are newcomers. In such a case, the fans of the previous main leads will begin to dislike the new main leads. If the fans don't let their minds give the new actors a chance to prove their worth and calibre, then those fans will never be able to feel that those new actors really do have some potential to make it big in the TV industry. If the fans continue to look upon those new actors with negativity and hatred, then they will never be able to believe in the fact that those actors really have some talent.
Similarly if those who don't believe in God are not ready to let their minds give this belief a chance, will never be able to believe in God.
I am pretty sure most of you who don't believe in God will oppose to what I just mentioned above. Therefore, to make the environment a little more peaceful, I would like to tell you all that the presence of God is something which only believers can feel and understand completely. For example the depth of motherly affection can be understood completely by a mother only. Those who haven't become mothers yet, can understand maybe just a small portion of motherly affection.
Similarly, belief in God and his presence can be understood completely by believers only. Those who don't believe might understand just a small part of it or they might not understand this belief at all.
Edited by rabees011 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: rabees011

You are once again misunderstanding me. This post was opened to debate on the topic of existence of God. I did not say Islam must be embraced by everyone! Did I? I just told you that all these things do indicate that God exists. That's it. This is my opinion and if you want to stick to your opinion, go ahead but please don't question my belief and other people's beliefs in a way that may sound offensive. That's all. Everyone is entitled to their own belief. If I believe in something, do you have to believe in the same thing? No. Similarly, if you believe in something which you think is right, then that doesn't necessarily mean I have to believe which you believe to be right. That's it. Therefore, you stand by your opinion no matter what, and I will stand by my opinion no matter what. If you believe in your religion and its miracles, then you will stand by your religion no matter what. Similarly, if I believe in God and my religion, then I will stand by it no matter what. That's it. Why am I being questioned again and again that how do I know those pictures are correct? I just wanted to share some pics of Islamic miracles. That's it. I didn't mention anything like Islam is superior than Hinduism or Hinduism is superior than Islam. That's my point. I just wanted to share some pics with the members here. That's all. What wrong did I do?
IF is a reputed website that believes in freedom of speech, not abuse of the freedom of speech. As far as I think, I haven't abused this freedom. I have the right to post pics that represent my religion as long as they don't offend anyone. That's all. I have no intention of declaring any religion as being the most authentic out of Islam, Christianity, Hinduism, Judaism or Buddhism. If I think those pictures are pictures of Islamic miracles, then you should not try to impose your belief on me. If I want to believe in something, then I will. If you want to believe in something which is contradictory to my belief, then go ahead. No problem, but you must keep in my mind that the authenticity of a religion and its miracles shouldn't be questioned as it can create fights and lead to open bashing.
Please refrain from creating a controversy that might offend others. I think we are getting off topic. So let's just stick to what we were discussing earlier: Whether God exists or not and science versus religion/religion versus science.I would really appreciate it if you can get back on track and refrain from questioning the authenticity of any religion as it might offend others.

Ah yes looks like a simple case of misunderstanding that is all.
Personally for me any religion is fine, as it is more important what we do with the religion on hand.
Religion is only a tool and we must dig our own well.
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Posted: 15 years ago
Thanks a lotttttt for clarifying this misunderstanding. Thankyou Summer!😛Hats off to your statement!!👏👏👏👏 You have said what I couldn't say.😛
Edited by rabees011 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

Originally posted by: Summer3

Mr. Cuckoocutter is religion and Debu Buoy is Science, now each is dependent on the other to have some tamasha and fun. 😆 Lage raho Munna Bhai.

And may be our teen14 bro has collected them as pets and liking them too 😆😆, now he is after Pakistanis, may be he'll start liking them soon😆

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