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PRET(GHOST) LOK

A passionate man, whose mind is filled with lower appetites and strong sense-cravings, who has spent his life in much sensual indulgence in this earth-plane, enters the Preta Loka (astral world of gross density) after his death. He is unconscious for a short time after death. He is in a sleepy state. He awakens and finds himself in this Loka, or world.

As soon as he wakes up, the sensual cravings, desires and appetites torment him immensely. He wants to eat, drink and enjoy with women. But he cannot gratify his desires now with his present body. He is kept in this world just as a prisoner in the prison. Therefore, he is extremely miserable and unhappy, as he cannot gratify his passion in this plane. The senses are powerful, but he cannot get here the means of gratification. His misery is beyond description as he is not able to satisfy his passions, cravings and appetites. He is just like a starving man.

The passions have their roots and centres on the senses and the mind. They are not in the physical body. This physical body is only the instrument of gratification in the hands of the senses and the mind.

You can help the sufferer in the Preta Loka by performing Sraaddha (religious libations and offerings). Performance of Sraaddha helps to free him and make him pass on to Svarga, or heaven. The Mantras recited set up powerful vibrations. These vibrations come against the body which imprisons the individual soul, and break it for its freedom.

Do you realise now the importance of Sraaddha? Those who have left doing Sraaddha on account of ignorance, perversion of intellect caused by wrong Samskaras and bad association and hearing of wrong teaching should perform Sraaddha from this moment at least. Rishis and Sastras take care of you like kind mothers.

If you do not wish to enter the Preta Loka and undergo the sufferings, learn to be wise. Learn to control the senses. Lead a well-regulated and disciplined life. Do not allow the senses to run riot. Give up gluttony. Do not follow the philosophy of flesh. Passions and appetites will only torment you when you pass through death. If you practise self-restraint, you will enter the regions of bliss.

EXPERIANCE OF PRET

Sage Vasishtha says in the Yoga-Vasishtha:

"The Pretas are of six kinds, namely, the slightly sinful, the ordinarily sinful, the greatly sinful, the slightly virtuous, the ordinarily virtuous, and the greatly virtuous. Some of the most sinful Pretas continue to be experiencing the insensibility of death( being ghost or pret lok) like a stone for a period of a year. Regaining awareness they experience that they are doomed to suffer from the endless torments of hell which their Vasanas have brought them, for a long time. They then undergo the experience of hundreds of incarnations until they finally get rid of the experience of world-illusion, by finding peace within. There are others in this class, who, after their torpor of death is over, begin to experience the unutterable pain of insensibility in the form of immovable trees, etc. Then they undergo the torments of hell, after which they are again born on earth in accordance with their earthly desires. Those of ordinary sin experience the inertness of stone for some time after death. Being awakened to consciousness, they, then or after some time, undergo the experience of the lives of birds, reptiles or beasts, before they turn to their usual lives in the world. The slightly sinful souls, often immediately after the insensibility of death, come to assume some human form to continue their earthly existence in accordance with their previous desires. They come to the worldly consciousness soon after their death and their previous desires and imagination evolve new worlds in their experience in a dream-like manner. The greatly virtuous souls, soon after the insensibility of death is over, get an experience in the worlds of gods. Having enjoyed the fruits of their virtues in godly personality and in heavenly worlds, they are again born in this world in noble and rich families. The souls of ordinary virtuous experience, after the insensibility of death is over, that they are being carried away by winds and later on are turned into the lives of plants and herbs. Having undergone this experience for some time they feel that they are entering human bodies as food, and there they are turned into spermatozoa and thence enter the wombs of (expectant) mothers."

[Taken from book "What happens to saul after death" by swami shivnanda, will post more detail of ghost from garura puran and atma puran latter]

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Garuda said: Having obtained a new body where does a preta shelter ? Released from pretahood, where does he go to live in ? Passing through torments in hell which number eighty four lakhas, and guarded by Yamaraj and his thousand attendants, how do the pretas get released and how do they roam about this mortal world ? The Lord said: king of birds, hear me, I shall tell you about the region where pretas live. Men attain pretahood by stealing other man's riches, by indulging in sexual intercourse with another man's wife or by doing acts of treachery. Having incurred sins, they seek for redemption in their progeny. Being bodiless as well as suffering from hunger and thirst they roam about here and there. Even the captives released from prison are frightened at their sight. They seek for means to kill their kith and kin. They bolt doors on their ancestors, put obstacles in the way of manes, departed for fathers. Like theives, they snatch the manes's food in the way before it reaches them. They like to return to their previous home, stay on the roof and watch the activities of their kin. They enjoy causing disease and grief to their relatives. Having asumed a form of changing nature tertian, and such like fevers they cause diseases due to cold or wind, like head ache or cholera. They stay at dirty places like that where refuge is left, and enjoy in the company of other ghosts and partake of the waste foods and drink left out unattended by their hosts. In this way, the sinful pretas move about freely. Garuda said: How do the pretas behave and in what form ? How is it possible to know their attitude, since the pretas do not speak to us? If you are pleased to do me a favour, you clear away my doubts. O Lord, I hear that in the Kali yuga many people become ghosts.

Lord replied:The ghost torments his family members through various enemies. While he was in the human form he was affectionate to his relatives, but now in ghost hood he is inimical, and hostile towards them. He who is devoted to Rudra, follows the path of righteousness, honours the Supreme Lord Vishnu and the Devas, satiates guests, speakes the truth and pleasent words, is not tormented by pretas. He who does not observe sacrificial and purificatory rites, who has no faith in the Vedas, hates righteous deeds and indulges in falsehood, is tormented by the pretas. Furthermore by these unrighteous acts one becomes himself a preta in the Kali yuga. From the Satya yuga to the end of the Dwarpara yuga, nobody became a preta nor did anyone suffer from their evil influences. It is observed that of many children born of one and the same mother, one child is happy, one is addicted to bad habits, one is blessed with good progeny, one is tormented by pretas, one abounds in wealth, one gets sons who die young, one is burdened with the offspring of many daughters, and one is constantly with daggers drawn towards his relatives. This is all due to the bad intentions of pretas, O Garuda. A woman who remains without husband, but still makes children, or one who becomes barren in life, or gives birth to children that die at an early age, there is loss of wealth and cattle. All these are the sufferings caused by pretas. If there is a sudden change in a persons nature, or a sudden emnity with his relatives, or an unexpected calamity, that suffering should be known to be the doing of a preta. If a person loses faith in religion or if he loses the means of livelihood or if he feels greedy in excess (for food or aquiring material things) or if there is a regular quarell at home, that suffering should be known to be caused by a preta. If he slays his parents or reproaches gods/God or the brahmanas and is found guilty of murder and the like, these are all symptoms of pretas.When crops do not grow up, though there are sufficient rains and good soil; when the expenditures go up and income is reduced; when quarrels rise in gravity, and severity, again these should be recognised as the doings of pretas. When on travels to foriegn lands, he is distressed by the onrush of wind, O lord of birds, that suffering is due to pretas. When he associates with the people of low caste or when he performs disreputable acts (lying, cheating, stealing, or worse) or when he is interested in acts of unrighteousness, (meat eating, illicit sex, gambling, intoxication - liquor, drinking alcohol, smoking, taking drugs) that suffering is due to the influence of pretas. When the hoarded wealth is destroyed by misfortune or when the work in operation bears no fruit (business collapse) or when there is a loss of wealth due to undue taxation or due to fire or theft, that suffering is due to pretas. When an incurable disease sets in, or when children suffer from pain or when a wife suffers immensely, that is also due to pretas. When one loses faith in the Vedas, Smritis, Puranas, and Dharma-shastras, this is also the work of pretas. When one abuses the gods (the Supreme Lord or His Devas), or gurus, brahmins in their presence or absence, that aberration of nature is due to pretas. This is due to pretas and to no other cause when a person suffers from loss of livelihood or break in social position or break in the continuity of lineage. When women suffer an abortion or do not conceive or when the children die at an early age that suffering is caused by pretas. When he does not perform the annual sraddha rites with all sincerity or has no desire or inclination to do so, that is a preta trying to deny the offering to one's manes (forefathers)(...in this way they become more powerful). When on pilgrimage if one indulges in sexual intercourse or neglects his duties or when he fails to prosper though he has done acts of piety - that is the suffering due to pretas. When both husband and wife quarrel at meal times, when there is a strong inclination to harm others, that suffering is due to pretas. When trade does not prosper though he has gone abroad where he lives in separation from wife and family, that is due to preta. When he lives in foreign lands or when he loses his position at home, that is due to pretas. When he is inimical to his people, regards his son as his enemy, when he has no interest in home and feels uncomfortable there, that suffering is due to pretas. When he refuses to obey his parents and has no love for his wife, is of cruel or callous nature, is lost in his own affairs, that suffering is due to pretas. If the funeral rites are not performed in the prescribed way, the soul of the deceased (in rebirth) deviates from the righteous path and falls in the company of the wicked. Then Vrsotsarga is the only rite to redeem him, (the rite of releasing a bull infavour of the deceased). O Garuda, a person becomes a ghost and undergoes the sufferings thereof, if he dies an accidental or untimely death or if his body is not cremated properly. O best of birds, when the descendent knows of all this, he should conduct those rites which may release the deceased from ghosthood. If he does not perform these rites for the ghost then at his own death he in turn becomes a ghost and suffers after death. The person whose house is haunted by a ghost does not feel happy or comfortable. He loses faith, pleasure, devotion, discrimination as well as wealth. His previous good lineage is finished, it breaks either at the third or fifth generation. Moreover hitherto on, in every birth he lives a wretched poor and sinful life. There are people who have fierce, dreadful, disfigured and ghostly appearance, who have no regard or honour for their caste, progeny, parents, or womanfolk, who put on fashions to attract lusty persons, go an unpleasent way and talk loosely. Alas, it is painful to see them suffer, under the force of fate, from the recollection of their past sinful deeds. [Garuda Purana chapter 20]

Do you belive in ghost😉. Have you ever experiance there existance.😃. Our scriptures say there is Ghost

And yes rishi SSSSssshhhhhhhh KOI HAI😃😆 will post more from scriptures latter😛

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oh my god

i thought u r talking abt some ghost story and i m the first coward scaredy cat here

but some of this i had heard as a child that the way ur karmas r u wud get that kind of life in next birth and ppl who hv died suddenly or for some reason have some desires left unfulfilled remain as pretatma on earth till his ppl clear his deeds by shradds

personal level i dont know much here all heard here there

but i had a bit of ghost experience myself though i dont know if it was ghost or imagination but it was scary sort of

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chatter di what was your ghost experiance plz tell curious to know😊

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Originally posted by: rajnish_here
chatter di what was your ghost experiance plz tell curious to know😊

ha u really want to know ok here it is

but i cant say for sure if it was ghost or imagination ok

but it was unforgettable experience

it happend long time back when i was well young not too young not too old ok

my paternal grandma had died about one month back or so then

one fine evening me my bro and family were sitting in hall watching tv

we lived on top floor near sea then and we had huge verandah all around and glass doors.

suddenly the glass door started rattling and only glass door was rattling and evening time we anyways used tolock the doors

we were surprised what is this and it was very dark to see outside

if it was breeze we cud have put it to breeze but no it was some hot evening in summer in fact it was late evening abt 9pm time something

all of us got scared wondering what is rattling the door

yet not one of us had guts to open door and see whats happening

once the rattling increased and we got so scared thinking ghost of our grandma wants to come in that we all switched off lights locked doors and ran to bedroom covered ourselves from head to toe and started taking gods name to let grandma go if she is knocking on the door

scary experience yet in morning when we opend the doors there was no sign of anything which cud explain why our door was rattling

soon after we changed our residence but this incident has remained in mind even after all these years

hilarious mayb but for me it was scary

imagination or ghost cant say

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p.s one person wud imagine but not 6 of us so what to make of the rattling which we all heard and do remember till this day

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O that was really scary 😈😲. Thanks 4 sharing it with us. I was not beliving in ghost untill aexperiance which changed my views😃.

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Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada on a Morning walk in Bombay, India, April 12th 1974 had the following conversation with one Indian man.
Srila Prabhupada. "........And you have not seen so many things. Does it mean that does not exist? You are researching. You have not seen. As a scientist.........."
Indian man. "I have heard lots of ghost stories, but......."
Srila Prabhupada. "No, No it is not stories. We are hearing from Bhagavata, it is authority. We are not hearing the stories of third class man. We are hearing form Vyasadeva. Vyasadeva............"
Indian man. " But you see, up till now, in my long life of eighty years........."
Srila Prabhupada, "No, No you have not so many experiences. That does not mean these things do not exist. Your experience is not all in all. Don't think like that. So these are existing actually. That is the defect, that you do not accept the authorities. That is the defect. Here Vyasadeva is describing, who is called Vyasadeva, full of all knowledge, and the Bhagavata is a mature experience. We are hearing from him. Why do you not believe? I may not have experience. This ghost means the living entity is subtle life without any material body. That is ghost. When one is very sinful, he does not get the material body. He lives in the subtle body: mind, intelligence and ego. That is ghostly life. And they display. Because they have no body, one cannot see, but they display so many mischief's. That is ghostly life. Seeing or not seeing doesn't matter. Therefore it is enjoined in the Vedanta Sutra, shastra caksusa (see through the bona fide scriptures)."
Indian man. "But it should be proved."
Srila Prabhupada. "It is true because it is spoken by Vyasadeva. How you say it is false? You cannot say that. That is blasphemy."
Indian man. "In olden days there used to be the ghosts and all these things, but now that is gradually............"
Srila Prabhupada. "But gradually..........! That does not mean you have improved very much. Because you do not believe in ghost........................!"

"Looking out the car windows as we drove to Central Park, Prabhupada observed the effects of modern schooling. "This is not education, everything is killing. Therefore we are supposed to deal with all madmen. They are thinking that they are constructing such big, big buildings, they are the most exalted persons; but we take them as mad, ghostly haunted. A person ghostly haunted, as he does, acts, similarly, anyone who is under the clutches of maya, he acts like this." "

(Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad: July 13th, 1976. From the "A Transcendental Diary Vol 3" by HG Hari Sauri dasa)

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Originally posted by: rajnish_here
O that was really scary 😈😲. Thanks 4 sharing it with us. I was not beliving in ghost untill aexperiance which changed my views😃.

ohhoo so u also had soem ghost experience

then share please

and at this time rajnish it seems just u and me two bhoots on this ramji land right now

hahahaaa

ur title of thread is pret in scriptures here we r sharing our ghost stories

funny though isnt it

do share ur story rajnish i m getting bored no one is online and i m honestly a ghost here now

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Originally posted by: chatterbox

ohhoo so u also had soem ghost experience

then share please

and at this time rajnish it seems just u and me two bhoots on this ramji land right now

hahahaaa

ur title of thread is pret in scriptures here we r sharing our ghost stories

funny though isnt it

do share ur story rajnish i m getting bored no one is online and i m honestly a ghost here now

😆😆😆

chatter di i edited second post with some ghosty things from garuda puran, do read it😛. and about my experiance its not of mine but of my friend 😆. It will look like some movie story so better leave it because it is something no one belives😆