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I think you're right, Desichica; I haven't watched all of Pirates of Caribbean, but in the scenes that I did watch, there was similar war music. Not only in that movie, but lots of others too. I think it's a popular "war tune".

Congratulations Lalitha di for turning into Goldie...
yeah spl...effects..are upto the mark as its a prime time serial.....
k..can any body tell me....in which Ramayan this thing is there....Kumbhkaran sleep in the battelfield...its not there..in Ramcharitmanas..and i think not even in Valmiki Ramaya....if any of u have read other versions of it ..then plzz.... reply....Sagars...give so...many versions of Ramayn during the titling.....
so any one of u know it which version has said this plz...let me know this.....

Originally posted by: sam1903

Congratulations Lalitha di for turning into Goldie...
yeah spl...effects..are upto the mark as its a prime time serial.....
k..can any body tell me....in which Ramayan this thing is there....Kumbhkaran sleep in the battelfield...its not there..in Ramcharitmanas..and i think not even in Valmiki Ramaya....if any of u have read other versions of it ..then plzz.... reply....Sagars...give so...many versions of Ramayn during the titling.....
so any one of u know it which version has said this plz...let me know this.....

I have no idea whether this (Kumbhakarna falling asleep) is in Kamban or some other version of the Ramayan. What I do know is that Brahma's boon stipulated that Kumbhakarna couldn't be killed during his 6 months of regular sleep and the one day he woke, but if he was woken up out of schedule, his life would be in danger - which is what happened.

However, last night (Dec 9, for those reading this in posterity), even allowing for poetic licenses, I thought that the exchange between Mandodari and Vajramala, which culminated in the latter accusing the former of wanting Ravan's death, and Mandodari slapping her in response was over the top. In the previous slapping incidents, like Sumitra slapping Manthara or Sita slapping her rakshashi guards, regardless of whether that actually happened or not, one can at least appreciate the justification behind it. But in this case, according to this serial itself, Vajramala had witnessed Kumbhakarna's advice to Ravan, and couldn't have been ignorant about both Mandodari and Vibhishan strongly advocating that Ravan restore Sita to Rama. Given that, even allowing for the fact that she was distraught at the thought of getting widowed, I thought it was absolutely inappropriate to depict this fight between Vajramala and Mandodari since both should have, and did, know better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5ltglsfr4

Originally posted by: godisone

I think you're right, Desichica; I haven't watched all of Pirates of Caribbean, but in the scenes that I did watch, there was similar war music. Not only in that movie, but lots of others too. I think it's a popular "war tune".

*Aiswarya was right in the part that Ram and Lakshman coud not fight unless someone challenged them, because they were only allowed to fight with rakshasas like Ravan, Indrajit, Atikay, etc. because they were the leaders of the army and their lives were most important, along with Vibhishan's and Sugreev's, because if one of them had been captured or killed, the war would have been over instantly. I'm not saying Ram and Lakshman were easy to defeat, but as per war ethics, only equals can fight each other, so it would be considered unethical and unfair if Ram had fought with the rakshasa army.

In the Mahabharat, it says that as per war etchis, soldiers sitting on elephants could only fight with other soldiers sitting on elephants, chariot riders could only fight with other chariot riders, foot soldiers with other foot soldiers, and so on. Of course, later on in the war, this rule was broken many times, but this is one of the rules of war.

Also, a whole army never went into war at the same time (as many of you already said). Each day, a different division fought so that the ones who already fought had a chance to recuperate and the new division would fight with more energy than the old division would have.

So in these two aspects, this Ramayan is not showing it wrong. I agree though that the special effects are repeated many times, but there are probably reasons for that.

[QUOTE=Chandraketu]I have no idea whether this (Kumbhakarna falling asleep) is in Kamban or some other version of the Ramayan. What I do know is that Brahma's boon stipulated that Kumbhakarna couldn't be killed during his 6 months of regular sleep and the one day he woke, but if he was woken up out of schedule, his life would be in danger - which is what happened.

However, last night (Dec 9, for those reading this in posterity), even allowing for poetic licenses, I thought that the exchange between Mandodari and Vajramala, which culminated in the latter accusing the former of wanting Ravan's death, and Mandodari slapping her in response was over the top. In the previous slapping incidents, like Sumitra slapping Manthara or Sita slapping her rakshashi guards, regardless of whether that actually happened or not, one can at least appreciate the justification behind it. But in this case, according to this serial itself, Vajramala had witnessed Kumbhakarna's advice to Ravan, and couldn't have been ignorant about both Mandodari and Vibhishan strongly advocating that Ravan restore Sita to Rama. Given that, even allowing for the fact that she was distraught at the thought of getting widowed, I thought it was absolutely inappropriate to depict this fight between Vajramala and Mandodari since both should have, and did, know better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5ltglsfr4[/QUOTE]

desichica

Your explanation makes sense. However, my issue was with that entire scene, rather than only Mandodari slapping Vajramala, or only Vajramala accusing Mandodari of secretly wanting Ravan dead. (Didn't make sense either: why would Vajramala bother about the well being of Ravan? In this conversation, it would have made more sense had she accused Ravan of wanting to sacrifice Kumbhakarna to satisfy his ego)

Just thought that this was an over-dramatized insertion into the story, even allowing for poetic licenses.