Devtaa Produced Vaanar - Page 2

Originally posted by: bhopalyellow

thanks rajnish bhaiya for such useful informations...i knew abt bali and sugreev and jambvantji in dwaparyug, bt u explained in good detail👏...thanks again...😛

Thank you so much Rajnish for taking the time and explaining all this in great detail! Really appreciate the hardwork!👍🏼

Originally posted by: godisone

Thank you so much Rajnish for taking the time and explaining all this in great detail! Really appreciate the hardwork!👍🏼

I also want to add something to the Jambavanth story. I can't name the source, because I heard this story from my dad, who heard it from his mother.

People often ask why Jambavanth, who is a friend and devotee of Lord Shri Ram, fought with Shri Krishna. Couldn't he recognize his Lord? The reason for this is...After Ravan died, Shri Ram was filled with immense gratitude towards all the vanaras who helped him. "Ask of me anything you want. I will grant each and every one of you a boon," he said in joy. All the Vanaras (the soldiers) asked him predictable boons, like a long life, riches, material pleasures, etc. Hanuman asked Shri Ram to always consider him as a son and devoted servant, and Sugreev asked something along the same lines, but Jambavanth surprised them all by saying, "I want a chance to fight with you, oh Lord."

Shri Ram was surprised. "But we have no enmity. How can I fight with you, who helped me in the battle against Ravan?"

But Jambhavanth was persistent, saying that he wanted a fair fight with the Lord to measure his skill and strength.

Of course, Ram agreed to grant the boon, but said, "However, I will grant this boon in my next life, as I do not want to fight with one who helped me in this life."

So this is how Jambavanth, who was an ardent devotee of Lord Rama, didn't recognize Shri Krishna as his beloved Lord, and fought with him. But in the end, he surrendered when he remembered the boon he had asked Shri Ram long ago in the Treta-Yug. Understanding Shri Krishna to be Shri Ram, he surrendered and offered his beautiful daughter, Jambavathi, as a wife to Lord Krishna. (She was his second wife after Rukmini, and then Shri Krishna married Satyabhama when he returned the swayamtaka gem to the king, who offerered his daughter Satyabhama as the third queen of Lord Krishna.)

Originally posted by: rajnish_here

the birth story of baali and sugreev is written in valmiki ramayan UTTAR KAND chapter 7 sarg 37/1 when ramji was talking to agastya muni he narrates this story😊

yeah i found something like that :-)



i studied sanskrit as third lang in school. so i am not good at it. hehehe.
i tried to understand this, but it is too difficult.

i thought, if i can find, translation, shlok by shlok at some place online. but i didn't get that too :-(

the only link i found, was probably the same as ur story.
http://www.geocities.com/mahaabhaarat/witnesses/others/baali1.htm

there is so much to learnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

i am not questioning anything in ur post.

i have another problem.. and you or please someone help me..

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this above one i found, valmiki ramayan, uttarkand 37
http://www.sanskritdocuments.org/mirrors/ramayana/valmiki.htm

A... please anyone, who has Valmiki Ramayan as a book, confirm atleast that whether this above pic-part is there in that book or not.
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Second i was reading this site..

http://www.geocities.com/bhagvatjee/vraamaayan/kathaa/7vuttar/24sarg371.htm

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Sarg 37/1 - Birth of Baali and Sugreev

Raam said to Agastya Muni - "Hey Rishivar, You told that Baali and Sugreev's father's name was Riksh Raaj. What was their mother's name? And why these names were given to them?" Agastya Muni said - "Hey Raghu Nandan, Once Naarad Jee came to our Aashram wandering around. When we asked this him, he said - "On the peak of Sumeru Parvat, where Devtaa live, there is Brahmaa's divine court in 100 Yojan area. Once when Brahmaa Jee was practicing Yog, two drops of tears fell from His eyes. Brahmaa Jee took them in His hand and wipe His hand with His body. Later when he shook His hand then one drop fell on the ground.

A Vaanar was born from that drop. Brahmaa Jee said to him - "Look Vaanar, you stay on the peak of that mountain. After some time there will be something good to you." That Vaanar went away there and lived there on fruits, and flowers. Now this Vaanar used to offer beautiful flowers and honey on the feet of Brahmaa Jee. Thus a long time passed.

One day this Vaanar got very thirsty, so he went to look for water to the north side of Sumeru Parvat. There he found a pond, and as he bent down to drink water from that pond, he saw his shadow in the water. He thought, "Who is this my enemy here? I will kill him." And he jumped into the pond to kill him. But when he came out he found himself in the form of a beautiful woman.

At that time Indra was coming back from Brahmaa Jee. By chance Soorya Dev was also came there on his way to somewhere. Both Devta saw that beautiful woman and had a desire to have her. Indra's semen got ejaculated and fell on the head of that woman. This produced a Vaanar. Because the semen fell on her hair (Baal in Hindi language) he was called Baali.

Soorya's semen fell on her neck (Greevaa in Hindi language). This also produced a boy who was called Sugreev because of the semen falling on her Greevaa. Indra gave a very qualitative chain to Baali and Soorya appointed Hanumaan for Sugreev's help. So Hey Raajan, After this that woman again became Riksh Raaj.

Then Riksh Raaj went to Brahmaa Jee along with his two sons. Brahmaa Jee assured him and sent His messenger with him to Kishkindhaa Nagaree saying - "There live Vaanar and human beings of four Varn. Invite all of them and crown him as king there." So that messenger brought them to Kishkindhaa Nagaree, crowned Riksh Raaj as king there. Thus Riksh Raaj, Baali and Sugreev's father, is the king of all Vaanar of the whole world.

Sarg 37/2 - Raavan Talks to Sanat Kumaar

Raam said - "Hey Munivar, Because of your grace we heard this interesting and wonderful story. When Baali and Sugreev are the sons of Indra and Soorya then why shouldn't they be so much glorious and gracious." Agastya Jee said - "Now I will tell you the reason as why Raavan abducted Seetaa. Listen to it.

In Sat Yug, once Raavan went to Brahmaa's son Sanat Kumaar and asked - "Hey Tapovan, By whose help Devtaa win in war? Who do Yogee meditate? Who do Braahman worship? Hey Maharshi, please explain me in detail." Sanat Kumaar said - Hey Putra, Who sustains everybody in this world; from whose navel Brahmaa Jee has born; on whom we all depend; Dev Gan win Raakshas with the help of same Vishnu Bhagvaan."

Raavan again asked - "Hey Muni Shreshth, Whoever Raakshas have been killed by Devtaa so far, what has happened to them?" Maharshi said - "Hey Raavan, Whoever have been killed by Vishnu, they get Moksh (salvation). They don't come back to Prithvi. Even the enmity of Vishnu is also good." Hearing this Raavan started thinking as how could he have a fight with Vishnu Bhagvaan."

what is the meaning of 37/1 and 37/2 ?

does it mean, first shloka of 37, second shloka of 37 ? (as in pic )

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And as i have realised, i am not going to understand much from 'original Valmiki Ramayan" bcoz my sanskrit is too weak. and even if i will learn. it will be difficult to understand. bcoz this is poetry. and some background knowledge of many characters is also required.

so translated by which person, u ppl refer or is good as standard ?
so that if i want to purchase. i shud purchase that one ?

Mod: sorry for 1+1 post, but if i wud have added in prev one, it wud have become too long. :-(
but even then u r free to merge

thanks Rajnish n Lalitha di for all the infos

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