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Posted: 2 days ago

Maybe they should have started the movie with this scene or - at least not involving a son who doesn't exist anymore... why should Raya imagine Nadia's death correctly but make Ticket alive when Ticket died in the accident he caused which then caused Nadia's death... weird...

Did the audience watching this movie for the first time without the insight knowledge had even a chance to understand what you told so wonderfully here?

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Posted: 2 days ago

Through friends, I got to know that (the dead) Ticket is the narrator but that Raya had bouts of schizophrenia where he imagined Ticket alive... but that would mean, that he acts as Ticket and not as Raya - both cannot be present at the same time...

Okay, you concentrated here on Raya and Nadia... it seems that's the most understandable part in the movie smiley1

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Posted: a day ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

Maybe they should have started the movie with this scene or - at least not involving a son who doesn't exist anymore... why should Raya imagine Nadia's death correctly but make Ticket alive when Ticket died in the accident he caused which then caused Nadia's death... weird...

Did the audience watching this movie for the first time without the insight knowledge had even a chance to understand what you told so wonderfully here?

Honestly,I can only talk about myself...I understood and resonated with a lot of these themes and emotional nuances on my first viewing itself...it was an instinctive instant connection i felt with the major characters and their journey..I embraced Raya,Ganga,Nadia even Ticket whole heartedly ❤️....

That said, I completely understand why someone watching it once without that instinctive emotional connection could find the narrative confusing. The film definitely doesn't communicate all of these ideas as clearly as it could have, especially with the fractured timeline, Ticket and the psychological shifts.

For me, though, the emotional logic of Raya, Nadia and Ganga clicked while I was watching. I wasn't consciously "decoding" everything. It just felt emotionally true to me. Later, when I rewatched them in reels or shorts and started thinking about individual scenes and conversations, I realised how many layers were actually sitting underneath them.

So yes, I do think the film could have guided the audience better.

But I also think some films work differently for different viewers. With Toxic, I happened to connect with its emotional language almost immediately, even when I couldn't have articulated every interpretation in that moment...So I am sure it was there in the narattive...there must have been a lot of people like me who must have resonated with it..

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Posted: a day ago

Yash undeniably has a strong screen presence... it's really a pity that this story didn't get told in a better way.

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Posted: a day ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

Yash undeniably has a strong screen presence... it's really a pity that this story didn't get told in a better way.

Yash has such a strong screen presence that you feel like he owns every frame he is part of..

And for Nayanthara and Kiara to stand strongly and shine the way they did with limited screen time...is so commendable...

Imagine after such a performance by Kiara ,still people are trolling her for other things and saying she is "finished" etc etc bcz they didn't watch this movie or her performance... It's sad actually....

But I hope once it is out on OTT, all these superlative performances and the story will get it's due....

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Posted: a day ago

The way you narrated your thoughts, it was fascinating to me how logically it felt on the emotional/psychological level... maybe you have a sensibility for that... to me, it's a pity that the way violence gets shown hinders me to watch the movie... but I imagine the story now like in a book I would read (thanks to you and your fellow member Mahiwayyy smiley1)

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Posted: a day ago

It may well be that Toxic becomes a cult movie smiley2

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Posted: a day ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

The way you narrated your thoughts, it was fascinating to me how logically it felt on the emotional/psychological level... maybe you have a sensibility for that... to me, it's a pity that the way violence gets shown hinders me to watch the movie... but I imagine the story now like in a book I would read (thanks to you and your fellow member Mahiwayyy smiley1)

Thank you so much for being so appreciative and non-judgmental and patient about our discussion here ...❤️


Honestly I feel Its biggest failure may not have been the film itself, but the expectation it created before release.

Yes, the film has genuine flaws. The editing can feel disjointed, the screenplay could have been tighter, some action stretches are unnecessarily long, and a few mass dialogues and stylistic choices distract from the emotional core. None of that can be denied.

But being flawed isn't necessarily fatal...Lots of commercial movies of big stars are flawed..but Expectation mismatch can be fatal ..

The marketing largely sold Toxic as a larger-than-life gangster spectacle with stylised violence, swagger, provocative imagery, sexualised material, mass dialogues. So a large section of the audience entered the theatre expecting a straightforward, high-energy commercial entertainer.

Instead, underneath all that surface, the film was trying to talk about trauma, guilt, fractured memory, destructive love, family, abandonment and psychological collapse.

Those are two very different viewing contracts.And perhaps that's why the first-day reaction was so harsh. People hadn't necessarily come prepared to sit with Raya. They had come expecting to watch Raya.

The film actually required patience. It required us to go through certain unnecessary indulgent materials..accepting ambiguity, sitting through discomfort and paying attention to small emotional details rather than waiting for the next mass moment.

And I genuinely think the promotional campaign could have helped here. It didn't need to reveal the story. It just needed to reveal the soul of the story.it could have given us one or two hints that this isn't simply a gangster action film, show us the fractured psychology,Show us Raya and Ganga. Show us the emotional weight of Nadia. Let the audience know there is something darker and more introspective underneath the spectacle.

Then people could make an informed choice.

Because when you promise one genre and deliver another, even a good portion of your audience may experience the film as deception rather than discovery. Because ultimately you didn't deliver what you had promised..

And that's particularly unfortunate for Toxic, because it's exactly the kind of film whose strengths become more visible once you stop expecting it to be something else...I am fortunate that I went the second day already having a certain idea regarding what to expect and the possible themes and genre and that helped..

In that sense, I don't think its biggest tragedy is that it was flawed.

It's that many people entered the theatre on the first day with lots of excitement after buying tickets that were high priced ..looking for the movie the marketing promised them, while the movie itself was asking them to look for something underneath it....And movie never actually recovered from the first day debacle....

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Posted: a day ago

Originally posted by: Clochette

It may well be that Toxic becomes a cult movie smiley2

Honestly, cult or not, I don't have any such dramatic expectations 😄 I just hope that once it comes to OTT, more people watch it with an open mind and realise that it's a film worth discussing beyond a one-word verdict like "Trash" or "Disaster."

They can still dislike it, obviously. It has flaws, and I completely understand why some people didn't connect with it. I just feel there's so much more to unpack here than simply dismissing it.

There's enough going on in this film to disagree with, interpret, debate and even criticise. And for me, that's precisely what makes it interesting...



And I completely respect your preference for avoiding too much violence on screen. 😊 We all have our own comfort zones when it comes to what we enjoy watching.❤️❤️

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"Toxic" movie - Members review and Box office thread

Detailed member review posted n the below link. https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/168032068 ---...

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Posted by: Elvis12 · 17 days ago

Toxic headed to emerge a DISASTER

https://x.com/bollyhungama/status/2093023125449613798?s=46

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Posted by: MsWhiskerson · 3 months ago

So....I watched this movie last night because of YouTube shorts Anyways, the FL Pooja is extremely annoying and irritating, her inferiority...

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Posted by: Elvis12 · 19 days ago

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