Eiffel Tower Incident: Disgrace to Women or Dignity to Indian Sadhus?- Page 6

Naga Sadhus ,yes. They usually stay in their own areas but during Kumbh Mela they parade their stuff before the crowd. And we have Jain Digambar monks who are buck naked, without even the ash that Naga Sadhus smear themselves in. So on the odd day you could see a young male going from house to house in an apartment complex in Bombay with nothing but a stick. If you turn the TV on and switch to Aastha or Disha at the wrong time you can see male genitalia. These people are exempt from the public indecency thing because of legal loopholes in the Right to Freedom of Religion in Article 25. At some point austerity can morph into narcissism. These Sadhus and digambars don't for a moment wonder what it's like for women who live in the world of grihasthi to have to see male nudity without having consented to it. They make it all about themselves and their life choices.

I was gonna say ,that male entitlement which makes men think women have a fundamental obligation to make room for their comfort is the problem here. Where they ask women to ' adjust '. That none of this would have happened without it. But both the Director of Operations and the Director of Customer Relations at SETE are women . Theyre blaming shift managers now , and claiming nobody higher up had any idea . What are the odds of a shift supervisor thinking ," Oh I ll just ask the female staff to hide behind the curtain as 100 males from another country pass by and it's gonna go down well " ? The company is lying for sure.

Originally posted by: WormikaGrubby

I agree ,they do follow it better than us at times.

Regarding sects, no , the average French person is highly unlikely to know or care about the differences and similarities. The ones who follow or are familiar with Hinduism are a minority. So the rest are just gonna see this as an outrageous act of disrespect by Hindus from India. It would be promptly used by the anti immigration/far right crowd to whip up prejudice. And when the PM himself has introduced this cult to the French as ambassadors of Hinduism , the sect thing doesn't matter. An unconditional apology from the Indian govt is very much needed . But what do we expect from a govt that excluded the president of the country ,who happens to be both female and Dalit ,from the inaugural ceremony at the new Parliament .

And the company should apologise to the female employees for entertaining this wretched request.

Baps is neither 1st nor the last Hindu organisation in France. Before them Tamil Shivites, Shaktiets, Ganesh, Murugan followers, Iskon followers, Ramkrishna Vivekanand organisations were already present in France including some meditation groups like Art of living, Ram Chandra, Cinmoy organisations etc are already known to French people.

Regarding unconditional apology from Indian govt, is not going to happen. External Affairs ministry has said, it's between ET authorities & BAPS.

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

There are serious questions surrounding BAPS's record of labour practices and its treatment of workers. The recent France 24 report on a former BAPS temple worker in the United States....who regained his freedom from this BAPS group's illtreatment but continues to seek justice, adds another important dimension to the discussion.

How a former BAPS temple worker in the US got his freedom, but still seeks justice--

https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20260910-how-a-former-baps-temple-worker-in-the-us-got-his-freedom-but-still-seeks-justice

Wow ,this keeps getting worse. It was probably a coincidence that the artisans turned out to be Dalit ,because caste and occupation do overlap a lot in rural areas and may not a case of them deliberately recruiting Dalits . But going by their gimmick from the sixties with the temple entry thing , and these questionable ' beliefs ' I'm pretty sure the worker is telling the truth about being told where his place is in the hierarchy. So they hired a bunch of poor people to construct their beautiful temples , locked them up and gave them crap in the name of mecidine instead of giving them proper treatment. Somebody badly needs to tell these people to get the hell out of the 18th century. Would they take the same ' medicines ' if one of them were to get sick ?

It's like what Mother Teresa did. She told lepers and the other destitutes she is supposed to have cared for that suffering is great because it brings you closer to God. She gave them Bibles instead of medicines and told her side kicks in white sarees to reuse syringes. But when she got sick her ass was promptly flown to L.A for the best treatment in the world.

Then there are those Muslim preachers who tell people hospitals are evil. And sick people end up dying because they had only been fasting and chanting kalmas without any real help.