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Posted: 7 hours ago

Originally posted by: Rdigest

The post from the user wasn't about if we like Abhimanyu or not, it was about how Abhimanyu has enabled someone.

And why would Vikrant like Abhimanyu, when he was being taken advantage off. This is like saying Mannat doesn't like the version of herself where she blindly believed DK for years and handed over Dua to him.

I am sure if a question is posed to Ayesha , she will respond the same, she doesn't like the version of Mannat who trusted a snake. No character likes to be taken advantage off, doesn't matter if they were given a new name or not.

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Mannat did apologise to Vik for this in the hospital as soon as he got his memories back ... did you skip that??

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Posted: 7 hours ago

Vikrant hasn't been no genius either but Abhimanyu takes the cake in being such a dumba$$ character!

But no apparently he's Bhola bhala with a good heart!smiley37

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Posted: 7 hours ago

I personally didnt find Abhi character was poorly written, and I am saying this considering I disliked another leap after being harassed with DK for 9+ months. What was poorly written and added to the show was the girl who wanted a handsome guy with no rhyme or reason and decided to kidnap him.

When did Abhi raise her hopes? Weren't the whole family setting up Abhi to be indebted to them and agree to everything they say when they narrated the fake story?

If being indebted is raising hopes then Mannat being indebted to DK, pretending to be married, making him Dua's baba, are all these things raising hopes for DK? Absolutely not, I believe Mannat made wrong decisions by trusting DK & his tears but never did she give him any such hopes beyond friendship. Similarly Abhi as a character was indebted to them , worst this wasn't a wrong decision from his end. He agreed to everything they said, apologized for the girls mistakes, tried to take her tantrums since he was told they were childhood sweethearts & it's him who forgot their supposed childhood love.

From my perspective, The new family entry should have been limited to Sam and family needed Abhi for their kidnapping business + UV track. Anyways, ManVik story is not in the phase where fans are still debating over who is more right or wrong.

I mute all the biased users on Xsmiley36. If a user can never call out 1 character but runs behind another character with a microscope, then they are not meant for my fictional world.

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Posted: 2 hours ago

I have only few arguments for why he is poorly written smiley36

You have mentioned one... "he agreed to everything they said"


1. Vik as a person would not entertain or encourage physical harm, body shaming or mistreatment to anyone.

Forget MR for a second, Abhi never voiced out the horrible behaviour of Ankit towards Vibha. Vik wouldnt have tolerated that. BTW it has nothing to do with indebtedness... bare minimum protest that he shouldn't speak to his wife like this. Take a stand as a morally upright person (ML).

MR openly threatened Mannat many times and he just let it go... again... as a moral person didnt stop MR even once. He rather enjoyed when MR said she will burn someone. Took it very lightly when he was seeing how unhinged she was.


2. This is very important and people havent answered me this or have chosen to ignore this.

We all supported Vik when he threw out Mannat RoTu (pre leap) because he had memory recall and realisee Mannat hid Aman truth from him. Rest of it is a domino effect which we have discussed to shreds.

But Abhimanyu refused to believe his own memories plus Mannats proofs which validates his memories... why???? Is there a logical reason apart from him believing SR is a good person.

Did he ever once bother to ask them or question them about Mannats version, which he himself was feeling BTW???? Where are his parents? Why does he has so many memories which doesnt fit his current lifestyle. And all the people are attached to Mannat.


Why is Viks reaction based on his own memories is justified and a completely different reaction by Abhi is also justified???? In both, Mannat ends up losing and he would have too if she hadnt saved him from the sham marriage.

Memory loss shouldnt change entirety of a person and his logical mind. The least anyone expects from a ML is to have rational mind.

Had Abhi even researched a bit on his own, he would have realised Mannat has some weight. But Vik never did, neither did Abhi.


I don't understand this desperate need to gloss over Abhimanyus poor writing just because he is played by Adnan.

Like the tweet mentioned, MR is dangerous because Abhi keeps assuring her he is her soul mate. Whereas Vik knows how dangerous she is. Thats the difference... and Vik wouldn't have supported this behaviour, Abhi did. Which is where he went wrong. And thats the poor writing even if you ignore MR Mannat situation.

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Posted: 2 hours ago

Why is Viks reaction based on his own memories is justified and a completely different reaction by Abhi is also justified????

Did Vikrant do anything when he got those flashes and no clear images until the wedding day 8 years ago? Nope he didn't, he asked his family around him and believed their lies until Vish brought out the truth and him getting clear flashes. It's the same here, he has been getting flashes but no clear images until he ended up in the hospital. He asked Ankit and he lied by EB him, Vikrant even asked for proof from Ankit.

Vik as a person would not entertain or encourage physical harm, body shaming or mistreatment to anyone.

Exactly, with no memories and nothing to rely on he could only show his displeasure, apologize, make them feel better which he did with the teacher and Vibha. He is not the confident Vikrant whose 1 roar can shut down the whole SM. He was someone with no memories, relying on them, indebted to them and being EB every second if he went against them and reminded of their favors. To put into perspective, think of how DK EM & physically abused Mannat into putting down Vikrant int he court and how he abused Vikrant for no reason infront of Mannat multiple times. Did Mannat speak up for Vikrant or did she even stand up for herself against the abuse? No, She stood there even when DK said DuMan were objects and he will do whatever he wants. She infact defended DK when Vikrant tried to interfere.

We all supported Vik when he threw out Mannat RoTu (pre leap) because he had memory recall and realisee Mannat hid Aman truth from him. Rest of it is a domino effect which we have discussed to shreds.

I don't believe anyone from the forum supported Vikrant and called out Mannat for deceiving Vikrant for DK/RoTu. Infact, forum even expected Vikrant to immediately accept the apology for such deception and complete the wedding when all Vikrant requested Mannat was to never hide anything from him. When he questioned Mannat why she was supporting DK so much when he should have been her priority, forum declared he CA her.

Some of us did support Vikrant and we went silent because of the snarky remarks by calling opinions which didn't align with them as childish and offscreen Neetu's. I for one find such snarky comments very funny and have a good laughsmiley36. I even had a good laugh when I read posts supporting DK abusing Mannat on the forum, such love and dedication for DKsmiley37.

I don't understand this desperate need to gloss over Abhimanyus poor writing just because he is played by Adnan.

I have no issue with Abhi character writint though I didn't care for the leap. I personally don't route for actors , only support or not support characters. So, not sure who this is intended forsmiley36. I have called out Vikrant in multiple tracks prior to DK's entry , even with the Y wedding drama I called him out. But, when I call out Mannat & how she was ruined since DK entry, I am suddenly Adnan supportersmiley36.

Anyways Chao, kitchen duties and dinner calling before I go watch DK drugging Mannat smiley36

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Posted: an hour ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Dont worry.... jis tarah Mannat ko Malla and Y ki harkato ke liye bhi blame kiya jaata tha vaise hi MR ke liye bhi kiya jayega...

Whats funny is the bts always gives away why Mannat didn't put MR behind bars and I know mommies devour it but inse raha nahi jaata Mannat ko bash kiye Bina 😝😝😝😝


Meher aayegi to leap bhi aayega... and ManVik ko khush to nahi rakh sakte to Dua villains ke saath rahegi... finally safe 😂


I see a strong possibility of another short leap where Dua will be with Rajvansh people angry at her parents 🙄

Frankly mommies make me laugh with their overtly biased take on Vik and then they shade those who don't agree with their take and instead support Mannat!

The Raja beta syndrome is unreal. As long their Raja babu is mollycoddled by all the other characters whether it's Mannat, DK, Ronnie, Neetu they are good and deserve to be praised. As soon as they go against their fave, all hell break loosesmiley37


I remember Neetu being hailed recently for being a good mother, after completely glossing over all she did pre-leap including drugging Vikkusmiley44smiley37

And then they want us to take their opinions seriously smiley37

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Posted: 56 minutes ago

Asli kaand to Neetu ne hi Kiya tha 25-30 saal pehle smiley37

Na Aish blackmail karti Malla se shaadi karvane, na Vish DK Salujas ke life main aate... na leap aata, na Mannat ke life main itne dukh hote...


But haan Neetu is the best mom of the show because she died for Vik smiley29

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Posted: 39 minutes ago

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Why is Viks reaction based on his own memories is justified and a completely different reaction by Abhi is also justified????

Did Vikrant do anything when he got those flashes and no clear images until the wedding day 8 years ago? Nope he didn't, he asked his family around him and believed their lies until Vish brought out the truth and him getting clear flashes. It's the same here, he has been getting flashes but no clear images until he ended up in the hospital. He asked Ankit and he lied by EB him, Vikrant even asked for proof from Ankit.

Vik as a person would not entertain or encourage physical harm, body shaming or mistreatment to anyone.

Exactly, with no memories and nothing to rely on he could only show his displeasure, apologize, make them feel better which he did with the teacher and Vibha. He is not the confident Vikrant whose 1 roar can shut down the whole SM. He was someone with no memories, relying on them, indebted to them and being EB every second if he went against them and reminded of their favors. To put into perspective, think of how DK EM & physically abused Mannat into putting down Vikrant int he court and how he abused Vikrant for no reason infront of Mannat multiple times. Did Mannat speak up for Vikrant or did she even stand up for herself against the abuse? No, She stood there even when DK said DuMan were objects and he will do whatever he wants. She infact defended DK when Vikrant tried to interfere.

We all supported Vik when he threw out Mannat RoTu (pre leap) because he had memory recall and realisee Mannat hid Aman truth from him. Rest of it is a domino effect which we have discussed to shreds.

I don't believe anyone from the forum supported Vikrant and called out Mannat for deceiving Vikrant for DK/RoTu. Infact, forum even expected Vikrant to immediately accept the apology for such deception and complete the wedding when all Vikrant requested Mannat was to never hide anything from him. When he questioned Mannat why she was supporting DK so much when he should have been her priority, forum declared he CA her.

Some of us did support Vikrant and we went silent because of the snarky remarks by calling opinions which didn't align with them as childish and offscreen Neetu's. I for one find such snarky comments very funny and have a good laughsmiley36. I even had a good laugh when I read posts supporting DK abusing Mannat on the forum, such love and dedication for DKsmiley37.

I don't understand this desperate need to gloss over Abhimanyus poor writing just because he is played by Adnan.

I have no issue with Abhi character writint though I didn't care for the leap. I personally don't route for actors , only support or not support characters. So, not sure who this is intended forsmiley36. I have called out Vikrant in multiple tracks prior to DK's entry , even with the Y wedding drama I called him out. But, when I call out Mannat & how she was ruined since DK entry, I am suddenly Adnan supportersmiley36.

Anyways Chao, kitchen duties and dinner calling before I go watch DK drugging Mannat smiley36

Mannat deceived Vikrant for DK/Rotu 🤣🤣🤣 Biggest joke..

There was no support for Mannat either from this forum when everytime it was told that why she did not herself told the Aman truth. It wasn't her truth to be told. This particular point has been explained 1000 times. She wasn't even born when Aman incident happened & hence kept on begging continously from RoTu to tell. She never had any evidence to back claims so why would Vik believe her ? Jab proof tha tab bhi nai Kia, iss case mei tha hi nai then why would he believe. Is this point so difficult to understand. And that guy DK literally wanted to tell the truth during rasams, why would any girl ruin her Rasams when for a day it can wait & parallelly when she was also convincing RoTu to tell ?

Mannat's past experiences wasn't something pleasant when she told truth without proper proofs but yeah she can be called selfish, deceiving etc but Vikrant's impulsive nature leading to chain reaction & not believing Mannat even once cannot be called out. All of a sudden he becomes the only victim & she is the perpetrator.

Some people here don't want to under this pov but they want others to understand Vikrant's pov. By the way most people here justified Vikrant's anger because he was wronged so your statement is partially wrong. Mostly people were furious with how he left her at Mandap. Then believed all the CA with DK. (You claim to love a person so much but then believe everything other party has to say against her. Ik people will bring Vik- Malla marriage in how Mannat didnt believe him back then - did Vik straightway propose to her or tell her the truth he loved. No. Jhoot toh usne bhi bola. Deceive usne bhi Kia, did rituals with someone else to make her jealous. What shit was that then? But then again Mannat was bashed bcz she reacted Lol. A guy gives confused signals on his marriage with someone else but the girl is supposed to run after him only to be branded as a Husband Snatcher, ganda khoon, gold digger etc but Vik as usual will be silent).

1 person supported that CA through & through & few people were silent then.

People are still so pissed that Mannat walked out. Its the people here who made it Vik vs RoTu/Dk & completely ww off Vikrant as he never had any part to play. You hate your parents for the truth, Fine. How can you leave your partner for this who wasnt even born at the time of incident ? Post him cooling down while talking to Mannat did he for once tried listening to her ?

People are quick to point out that Mannat chose this, chose that but conveniently forgetting Vik also has done exactly the same thing multiple times even after Mannat gave proofs -chose his family over Mannat. But Mannat for the 1st time chose herself, het sanity & her respect & walked out & it became a problem.

The biggest irony here is some people want Mannat to do everything from A to Z but others when expect the same from Vikrant even the basic then it becomes a huge issue. The bare minimum she expected from Vikrant was trust which she never got. This has been going for ages. Not some 1 time incident.

If people go after FL since the start, give a free pass to ML everytime & expect her to fix all the mess created by ML, then obviously other people will go after ML. Everything can't be overlooked & brushed under the carpet in the name of Vikrant toh aise hi hai....

Snarky comments were started by someone here. Online Neetu words are for X people not this forum. If few here are hurt by those veiled statements then they shouldn't have even started in the first place.

Also, Rdigest since you had mentioned this multiple times before that Mannat should have stood by Vikrant because they are partners. The support & trust should have been from both sides. When for every other incident Mannat has to literally scale Mt Everest to convince him or make him belief her then the minimum expection of trust, faith & understanding is also needed from his end when he never gave.

Also , since Vik & others here have the habit of putting all the A to Z blame on her, what's the guarantee that if Mannat had chosen him during Aman truth then years later he wouldn't have blamed her for separating him from his parents. Bcz bhai sahab ko truth khud pta nai lagana hai, thats also Mannat's job. People here at forum & at X would have declared her as a Home Wrecker.

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Posted: 26 minutes ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Asli kaand to Neetu ne hi Kiya tha 25-30 saal pehle smiley37

Na Aish blackmail karti Malla se shaadi karvane, na Vish DK Salujas ke life main aate... na leap aata, na Mannat ke life main itne dukh hote...


But haan Neetu is the best mom of the show because she died for Vik smiley29

During Baisakhi episodes, not even once Neetu said sorry to Vikrant for the gravest mistakes she did.

Yehi agar Mannat nai sorry bolti toh log another round of bashing start karte.

Also Vik said sorry to her only bcz Dua truth came out even though he accepted that Aman truth was hidden from him to save him from his breakdown & what they did at that time wasn't wrong so he could have atleast said sorry to her as well.

This is for the statement that Mannat deceived Vikrant for DK/ RoTu

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Posted: 25 minutes ago

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Why is Viks reaction based on his own memories is justified and a completely different reaction by Abhi is also justified????

Did Vikrant do anything when he got those flashes and no clear images until the wedding day 8 years ago? Nope he didn't, he asked his family around him and believed their lies until Vish brought out the truth and him getting clear flashes. It's the same here, he has been getting flashes but no clear images until he ended up in the hospital. He asked Ankit and he lied by EB him, Vikrant even asked for proof from Ankit.

Vik as a person would not entertain or encourage physical harm, body shaming or mistreatment to anyone.

Exactly, with no memories and nothing to rely on he could only show his displeasure, apologize, make them feel better which he did with the teacher and Vibha. He is not the confident Vikrant whose 1 roar can shut down the whole SM. He was someone with no memories, relying on them, indebted to them and being EB every second if he went against them and reminded of their favors. To put into perspective, think of how DK EM & physically abused Mannat into putting down Vikrant int he court and how he abused Vikrant for no reason infront of Mannat multiple times. Did Mannat speak up for Vikrant or did she even stand up for herself against the abuse? No, She stood there even when DK said DuMan were objects and he will do whatever he wants. She infact defended DK when Vikrant tried to interfere.

We all supported Vik when he threw out Mannat RoTu (pre leap) because he had memory recall and realisee Mannat hid Aman truth from him. Rest of it is a domino effect which we have discussed to shreds.

I don't believe anyone from the forum supported Vikrant and called out Mannat for deceiving Vikrant for DK/RoTu. Infact, forum even expected Vikrant to immediately accept the apology for such deception and complete the wedding when all Vikrant requested Mannat was to never hide anything from him. When he questioned Mannat why she was supporting DK so much when he should have been her priority, forum declared he CA her.

Some of us did support Vikrant and we went silent because of the snarky remarks by calling opinions which didn't align with them as childish and offscreen Neetu's. I for one find such snarky comments very funny and have a good laughsmiley36. I even had a good laugh when I read posts supporting DK abusing Mannat on the forum, such love and dedication for DKsmiley37.

I don't understand this desperate need to gloss over Abhimanyus poor writing just because he is played by Adnan.

I have no issue with Abhi character writint though I didn't care for the leap. I personally don't route for actors , only support or not support characters. So, not sure who this is intended forsmiley36. I have called out Vikrant in multiple tracks prior to DK's entry , even with the Y wedding drama I called him out. But, when I call out Mannat & how she was ruined since DK entry, I am suddenly Adnan supportersmiley36.

Anyways Chao, kitchen duties and dinner calling before I go watch DK drugging Mannat smiley36

Thank you for indirectly answering what I wanted to hear and point out as bias 🤪 (not just you but all those who read it)

Pink... exactly this is why I call out Abhi. Vik trusted his family's version of events. Or rather Vishs version of events because his memories were supporting that. And for that matter neither Neetu nor Mannat ever denied it unlike Ankit who couldnt show him any proof of Abhis childhood. Did Vik put Ankit or SR through the ringer like he did Mannat???? No... he simply accepted the convulated explanation that the pictures are in Punjab. As if Ankit couldnt arrange the proofs for Mannat.

Thats the contradiction Vik/Abhi has and why supporting Abhi makes no sense.

Abhi had memories... in vivid details, he found something missing with MR but did not trust Mannat who was able to show him concrete proofs.

Thats double standards from the audience who defends Abhi.


Blue I agree and I called it out then. So i am going to ignore that you meant me here.


Red... I did... vociferously and I was the only one at the beginning who supported why Vik was behaving like this.

Green... Mannat did not support DK... she supported Neetu... who threatened suicide and bind her in a pact. Or do we forget that Mannat desperately wanted to reveal????

It was clear as day then that Mannat chose a lesser evil mother... one the public hails now because she was Viks true mother. So in hindsight Mannat did support the right side at the cost of her own happiness.

It wasn't Mannats truth to share to begin with, Neetu threw her under the bus in haldi, never told Vik that it was she who asked Mannat to lie and agreed to hide everything from him. Thats the only reason why Neetu remained pro Mannat till the very end. Because Mannat supported her at her worst phase.

So if anyone is at equal fault if not bigger then its Neetu. Call her out as much as you call out and blame Mannat. Simply because she died saving Vik doesn't exonerate her from her deeds which also involved drugging that same cherished boy.

And lets not forget Neetu is the original creator of this mess. Had she never lied about Amans , none of this would have happened.


Bold... without the knowledge about pregnancy... saying Mannat is choosing his brother over him and hinting at two timing him is not CA then God knows what is... forum did not declare it, he actually said those words which earned him a slap... Vik has till date not apologized to her for that or putting her through so much trouble when she was pregnant with Dua. A bare minimum acknowledgement hasnt even happened.


Purple... the original tweet on which this conversation started was about Abhi and not Mannat. I dont have to agree with you or the select few that Abhi is a cute and loveable character when neither the majority or the actors themselves dont like him. He doesnt have the good traits Vik had which shouldnt be the case even with memory loss. Its not rebirth.


The core reason why there can never be a consensus on this is some of you believe DK acted on Dadis words and stole everything from Vik. I do not give weight to a characters words who did not even feature for probably more than 10 episodes.

Neither do the makers.... as per episodes... DK started having feelings in Indore... 7 years ago and not 8.... so the entire premise that he wanted to steal Mannat pre leap does not work out well. Till they clarify it further though I doubt it will ever happen.

That said, Mannat never gave any hopes to DK that she would choose him over Vik or marry him in future. The Chai sessions everyone rants about are all about how Mannat is still hung up on Vik, Vik is biological father of Dua, Mannat traumatized that Vik would take Dua away and DK himself keeps reminding her that she loves Vik. Thats the reason Mannat never doubted DK and he had to rely on Ronnie to manipulate her.

Mannat stopped resisting Vik Dua bond after a point since she knew she cant stop that connection and honestly wanted that bond to develop. The whole move to Indore was also Mannat being in favour of Vik but DK overpowered her. She was wrong there and called out by many including me.

Blaming Mannat for all that DK did later is pointless when even Vik doesnt believe that she is at fault.

Like I mentioned yesterday... correlation doesnt imply causation 👍

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