Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi 2: EDT #19 - DT note pg14 - Page 108

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Thank you ☺️

Your welcome 🙂

Btw.. do tell me was it necessary to show parallels between Ansh and Parth? Marital rape scenes and cliff killing scenes.. we were constantly shown FBs of the past..

Why did N had to kill her son P? She could have called K there. She could have tried to convince P to leave V and go to US. She could have called police there and that would have ensured that P is jailed for his crime. Even T would have supported her.

Originally posted by: bpatil3

Virani's ke paas gun or pistol ka license hai kya😜??

But why do they need to have it in the first place??

This Parth being evil is totally illogical and not making sense. Neither Rio is saint😡.

And he raping Vaishnvi and killing Rio did not make any sense. And how Tulsi n Nandini went to the cliff only to shoot god knows. Why are they aiming at chest?? Can aim some other body part, they got enough time see each other know, so enough time to press trigger too.

Anyways🙄, When Rio was not even in the picture Parth could have easily acquired Virani's property, Rithik was anyways not that smart, is it Virani's in loss bcoz of Parth?? 🙄

Koi kahani ka pehlu kisi se mel nhi khata na hi logical hai. 😟🙄

I found this part really illogical.

I mean what was his need to rape Vaishnavi if he was so desperate to have sex with her?

If he was so intelligent, he should have just acted like a goody-goody husband to her.

She would have easily slept with him because she loved him. It was not the same with Nandini and Ansh.

Just to recreate the emotion that Nandini killed Parth to save Vaishnavi the same way Tulsi killed Ansh, they have forcefully made the story that Parth wants to rape Vaishnavi!!

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

No, they didn’t show her giving birth to him but remembering him as a child in a crib.

When Tulsi had a similar FB we see her and Mihir holding a newborn baby, though we now know that the baby had to have been Harsh who was replaced but she specifically recalled that scene so as to imply she gave him birth because we see her in the typical hospital attire worn by patients. In the FB today Nandini has no such scene suggesting she gave him birth but only of her raising him as a baby. So Parth has known no other mother but Nandini even if he was born to Tanya.

I slightly disagree. I think the earlier episodes establishing Parth as Tanya's son might actually have been the blooper.

When Nandini shot Parth in yesterdays episode she immediately remembered the embryo. If Parth was Tanya's biological son, why would Nandini's flashback begin with the embryo? They never showed Nandini giving birth but they did show the progression from the embryo to a baby in the crib which strongly suggests he is Nandinis biological son...this also aligns with S1 canon.

So either the earlier episodes identifying Parth as Tanya's son were a continuity error, or today's embryo flashback is the inconsistency.

Originally posted by: Aleyamma47

When I watched yesterday's episode, I remembered your words @NeeruNature that Ansh was really evil but Parth is DRAMEBAAZ EVIL and MENTALLY UNSTABLE.

Seriously, the way Sohail acted out the whole sequence starting from the MR to yesterday's episode, it was very clear that he was being forced to do such scenes. (I'm guessing it I am not sure although) but whatever be the reason his acting as the villain such a crapfest and he was a camp not a vamp.

Plus, the way the whole story of turning Parth negative to his death was scripted, Parth's character arc is so horrible that, it is very clear that his whole villain era was forceful and unreal!!

Sachme, kya phookar likhte hai yeh log!!

Thanx for appreciate or like my words ya I feel he look comical more than scary I feel the ansh time or that taat taar taar tara tuda is still disturbed it's difficult to see ya with parth the scence is may be to combine 2 episode but phir that ansh ra**ed nandani it's more difficult to watch not bearable at all but parth vaishnavi also distrub but not that extent may be that time huge background music they create tension in environment or acting wise but with parth it's look forced and sudden invention they are not planned but becoz of low trp they do this or they actually cuts rio 's evilness and make him grey shade so with parth it's look forced and that parth who shows as green flag now turns into moster (vo bhi jisse dekh kar daar se zyda hassi aati hai )

About acting I actually sohil improve but ansh tu anshthst but here I somehow ferl sky /rio acting is so thandi so parth /sohil look so impressive

Originally posted by: Aleyamma47

I found this part really illogical.

I mean what was his need to rape Vaishnavi if he was so desperate to have sex with her?

If he was so intelligent, he should have just acted like a goody-goody husband to her.

She would have easily slept with him because she loved him. It was not the same with Nandini and Ansh.

Just to recreate the emotion that Nandini killed Parth to save Vaishnavi the same way Tulsi killed Ansh, they have forcefully made the story that Parth wants to rape Vaishnavi!!

Till end it was not clear what Parth actually wanted. If he needed money he could easily get it from his father, who is rich Karan and not gareeb Gautam, by manipulating Nandini. And why he needed money cigarette sharab ke liye kitne hi paise lagte hain? According to him he married Vaishnavi to become bechara in front of Viranis. But Viranis to khud Karan par dependent hai, woh Parth ko kya hi denge?Then while dragging Vaishnavi towards the cliff he said that he would have spared Vaishnavi and given her money also. But after pushing Vaishnavi he told Rio that it was his plan to rape and murder Vaishnavi so that he can frame Rio and then will kill Rio and say that he killed him for self-defense. That means his earlier statement that he would have left vaishnavi was false. Then he pulled a hanging Vaishnavi and told her that he pulled her back so that he can say the Vaishnavi killed Rio for self- defense. After that he told Nandini that he killed Rio because she hated him.

He has plans A-Z par kisliye

Parth ko actually kya chaahiye tha yeh use bhi nahin pata tha

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Your welcome 🙂

Btw.. do tell me was it necessary to show parallels between Ansh and Parth? Marital rape scenes and cliff killing scenes.. we were constantly shown FBs of the past..

Why did N had to kill her son P? She could have called K there. She could have tried to convince P to leave V and go to US. She could have called police there and that would have ensured that P is jailed for his crime. Even T would have supported her.

I think they wanted to show that just because a woman is a victim of sexual assault doesn’t mean necessarily that her son will respect women. He didn’t respect his own mother at the end after all. Parth was shown as a good son and boy by all accounts until recently, so this flip is something that would baffle Nandini too because she never would’ve believed her son was capable of being so vile and cruel had she not seen it herself.

I think the point here being made is that men like Ansh are a product of their upbringing but even parents who raise their kids well like KN need to teach their sons that physical intimacy in a relationship is not to be taken for granted or considered a given. Parth would’ve learned about the birds and the bees from his father or both his parents when he got old enough but was he taught how consent matters even in a loving relationship? Did KN talk about that with their son or did they assume he would never do something so vile simply because they believed that they raised him right. Parents are not necessarily grooming their kids to be monsters like Aditya Gujral did with Ansh, but even good parenting is also about discussing difficult issues and making sure your kids understand the same.

Did Parth have these ideas before? Was it someone’s company or what he consumed as content that shaped his thoughts? Was it watching his family where he found out that multiple women threw themselves at his grandpa, his parents had a complicated relationship history too. What was it.

I think the broader idea is that we must teach our sons how consent matters even in a relationship. Parents should be extra vigilant now considering how vulgar content is so readily accessible and available to influence and corrupt young minds too.

And I think it’s a subtle critique of the gentle parenting technique being applied now. I know that parents have beaten and traumatised their kids for generations and this isn’t a healthy cycle but it’s also important to remember that this gentle parenting isn’t necessarily full proof too. Would it be better to have to slap your son once or twice rather than pull the trigger on him? I believe everyone will know what the answer should be.

Nandini had to kill her son because she had refused to see him as the monster Tulsi was telling her he was capable of being. Remember her anger and refusal to look at Vaishnavi just the day before? Nandini heard what she wanted to hear, saw what she wanted to see and therefore she missed the opportunity to save her son from his fate. She was so angry at Tulsi and so sure of her own upbringing she refused to see what was in front of her and dismissed Tulsi repeatedly.

Karan wasn’t there and Nandini had no time to talk Parth out of his mania. She had seen him confess to one murder already and he was willing to commit another. She did what she did because it was what was done for her in her life at a moment where another woman had chosen her over her own son.

It was done for the poetic justice because Tulsi was accused repeatedly by Nandini these days that her guilt was the only reason why she was doing what she was. Nandini had her reasons and they were valid but I think it was also because she didn’t completely understand what exactly Tulsi did for her until she pulled the trigger on Parth herself. Nandini had perhaps never understood how and why Tulsi could love Ansh despite everything even though she knew better than anyone else what he was like, but now Nandini is in those shoes herself and understands how they pinch. How Tulsi could simultaneously kill her son to protect a girl unrelated to her by blood for nothing more than justice, humanity and the shared womanhood even as she continues to love him even after all these years and shall do so until her last breath. She ended the monster who deserved it but where does the mother in her go and how does she kill the love she has for her child, the very child she brought into this world who was a part of her and who is her flesh and blood, a piece of her heart that unfortunately resembles the monster she had to slay? Where does she go to discard that love which is one of the most precious and profound experiences of her life as a woman and a mother?

Nandini ironically repeated Tulsi’s history in FF mode because she couldn’t see herself in Vaishnavi while she had the chance. Tulsi had faith in her blood when she doubted Nandini and overlooked Ansh’s actions and Nandini repeated history by trusting her upbringing and son just as blindly.

Regarding calling cops, Nandini was alone and saw Parth had totally lost his mind. He refused to listen to her and his rant about not wanting to go to jail told her he was beyond the grasp of logic and reasoning. Had she tried calling cops, even if she had successfully managed to call them it would have taken time for them to show up and Vaishnavi would’ve been dead by then. Had Parth attacked her too physically as he heard her calling the cops, it’s possible she would’ve been grievously injured and rendered unconscious or something; again compromising Vaishnavi’s safety. There was no time to waste and Parth might have been shot in the leg or shoulder but Nandini perhaps felt it wouldn’t be enough. Parth might survive and try to hurt Vaishnavi to save himself as he confessed to her he had killed Rio and she knew too much. Ansh hadn’t stopped even though she divorced him and she had no desire to see Vaishnavi suffering from the same fate.

Also the show wanted to flip the script and make Tulsi the witness and Nandini the executioner this time. Tulsi couldn’t save Nandini but she did save Vaishnavi from Parth until she inadvertently sent her back to him again via Rio and Nandini had to finish the job because as I said, it was life coming a full circle and history repeating itself. Nandini couldn’t save herself but she couldn’t have been able to live with herself had she failed to save Vaishnavi. Today Nandini knows what Tulsi sacrificed and what it felt like, but she also knows what Vaishnavi had been through and what that feels like too. She now knows both sides of this coin - to be the victim and to be the mother of a monster. To be violated and terrorised by a monster and to slay someone who happens to be a monster, one that you can’t help but love.

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

I slightly disagree. I think the earlier episodes establishing Parth as Tanya's son might actually have been the blooper.

When Nandini shot Parth in yesterdays episode she immediately remembered the embryo. If Parth was Tanya's biological son, why would Nandini's flashback begin with the embryo? They never showed Nandini giving birth but they did show the progression from the embryo to a baby in the crib which strongly suggests he is Nandinis biological son...this also aligns with S1 canon.

So either the earlier episodes identifying Parth as Tanya's son were a continuity error, or today's embryo flashback is the inconsistency.

That’s the confusion .. who is Parth’s mom?!

This describes the situation

Originally posted by: SlatePencil

Till end it was not clear what Parth actually wanted. If he needed money he could easily get it from his father, who is rich Karan and not gareeb Gautam, by manipulating Nandini. And why he needed money cigarette sharab ke liye kitne hi paise lagte hain? According to him he married Vaishnavi to become bechara in front of Viranis. But Viranis to khud Karan par dependent hai, woh Parth ko kya hi denge?Then while dragging Vaishnavi towards the cliff he said that he would have spared Vaishnavi and given her money also. But after pushing Vaishnavi he told Rio that it was his plan to rape and murder Vaishnavi so that he can frame Rio and then will kill Rio and say that he killed him for self-defense. That means his earlier statement that he would have left vaishnavi was false. Then he pulled a hanging Vaishnavi and told her that he pulled her back so that he can say the Vaishnavi killed Rio for self- defense. After that he told Nandini that he killed Rio because she hated him.

He has plans A-Z par kisliye

Parth ko actually kya chaahiye tha yeh use bhi nahin pata tha

Or that rio too even what his plan and motive why he shake hand with parth or parth se hath milkar vo apni maa ko haq kaise dilata kya plan tha uska

Originally posted by: NeeruNature

Or that rio too even what his plan and motive why he shake hand with parth or parth se hath milkar vo apni maa ko haq kaise dilata kya plan tha uska

Rio ko sochna chahiye tha jo banda apni family kaa saga nahin ban paaya woh use bhi dhoka de sakta hai

Originally posted by: Me_Harini

I slightly disagree. I think the earlier episodes establishing Parth as Tanya's son might actually have been the blooper.

When Nandini shot Parth in yesterdays episode she immediately remembered the embryo. If Parth was Tanya's biological son, why would Nandini's flashback begin with the embryo? They never showed Nandini giving birth but they did show the progression from the embryo to a baby in the crib which strongly suggests he is Nandinis biological son...this also aligns with S1 canon.

So either the earlier episodes identifying Parth as Tanya's son were a continuity error, or today's embryo flashback is the inconsistency.

Even in recent episodes...nandini told loudly many time that parth is karan nandini's son ...that's why tulsi was doing injustice to him