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Posted: an hour ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

They wanted to show that Karan hates Tulsi and that reason for his hatred is wrong from his side. Had they had Parth die normally it would have been no reason for Karan to hate Tulsi.

Even if they had Rio killing a positive Parth and KN hating Tulsi for bringing Rio back or Rio then convincing everyone that Tulsi had killed him, it would still be slightly a mistake of Tulsi but obviously they can't show Tulsi wrong .. It is more to exhibit Karan's hypocrisy who was ok with killing of Ansh but not for his son exactly in the same situation

My issue is not Parth turning negative but the way they destroyed Pranavi. They had built is slowly over months.. Parth was throwing hints of liking Vaishnavi since Munirk marriage. Then how come suddenly Vaishnavi became a pawn in his game when he supposedly made this plan after losing the POA to Rio??

I mean they could have had an evil Parth and still not completely destroy Parnavi.. They could have shown that he really liked Vaishnavi but she was less important than his aim to get money.. Loved but dispensible for the cause, later she found out the plan of Parth and tries to expose him when he tries to stop her in a forced way where Tulsi kills Parth..

This Domestic violence and probable MR or whatever he is doing now right now is completely out of line

And it is coming out of nowhere. Just a week back we were rooting for them, as an innocent love bird couple , now it's like we don't even recognise them

And if that was not enough they had Parth go to the spinoff and escalate the issues there (probably to show Dev and Parth were always together)

Rio is looking much better now. Will they redeem Rio? Rio might say I was never against Viranis, I supported Parth only to show how big of a hypocrite you all are ..

I think more than Karan or Nandini’s hypocrisy being exposed here I think the angle being explored here is that at the end of the day they’re both in a step relationship. Karan never had shown any emotion in the usual manner towards Tulsi when it came to this thing, he was respectful towards her from day one as he viewed her as another woman who is a victim of his father’s like his mother was. He then goes onto basically worship her and turns sacrificial for her sake as he feels so indebted to her.

But there’s the simmering truth underneath it all that has been there all along. Tulsi keeps on stating repeatedly whenever how she accepted Karan, be it to Mihir or to Nandini. At some point she too felt like she did a favour and was using her I did a favour card to shut up someone when she wanted to either win an argument or score a point. So for all her love for Karan she also doesn’t fail to mention how she has done a favour.

The day before she had been so assured he would always fall in line when it came to her that she tells him directly, Karan talk some sense into Nandini. She didn’t even think once how Karan too has to have a threshold wherein he may accept anything when it comes to himself but now his wife and kid are here getting humiliated, slapped and he’s being expected to play pacifist and tell them they’re wrong all the time. Tulsi slapping Parth wouldn’t have been as bad had she been a bit fair when it came to Nandini’s tiff with Damini. She never said a word to Damini about how she was wrong in saying such crass things. Had she done that, she would’ve been seen as being fair when she called Nandini out for slapping Damini and later when Damini slapped Nandini, she made it seem like it was you two settling scores while I had no power over either to say or stop this argument. Again she didn’t acknowledge Damini had been wrong. Later when Karan and Gautam got into an argument about their wives having that slapfest, again she didn’t tell Gautam how his wife started it. She asked both to shut up but didn’t acknowledge the elephant in the room. Karan was bound to feel that he is being given the stepchild treatment and by extension so is his family after repeated incidents. So it’s actually a genuine issue that is being explored here.

Problem again isn’t Karan hating Tulsi where she will shed tears, but how Tulsi is wrong here too isn’t being called out and Parth getting killed has no built up whatsoever. Parth’s 180 is so forced that it makes us as an audience feel like we are being taken for granted and considered as fools. We don’t mind Karan having an evil son who gets killed by Tulsi leading to Karan hating her but at least don’t think we are fools when you spring it up on us out of nowhere!

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Posted: an hour ago

I think it's Vaishnvi who shot Parth, and Tulsi got the blame. This sacrifice of Tulsi for Vaishnvi is as a prayschit of her grandson ruining an innocent girl's life, assaulting her in the name of marriage.

Also as a woman Tulsi wants to protect Vaishnvi, kyunki Vaishnvi ko to abhi jeena hai.

Edited by bpatil3 - an hour ago
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Posted: an hour ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I think more than Karan or Nandini’s hypocrisy being exposed here I think the angle being explored here is that at the end of the day they’re both in a step relationship. Karan never had shown any emotion in the usual manner towards Tulsi when it came to this thing, he was respectful towards her from day one as he viewed her as another woman who is a victim of his father’s like his mother was. He then goes onto basically worship her and turns sacrificial for her sake as he feels so indebted to her.

But there’s the simmering truth underneath it all that has been there all along. Tulsi keeps on stating repeatedly whenever how she accepted Karan, be it to Mihir or to Nandini. At some point she too felt like she did a favour and was using her I did a favour card to shut up someone when she wanted to either win an argument or score a point. So for all her love for Karan she also doesn’t fail to mention how she has done a favour.

The day before she had been so assured he would always fall in line when it came to her that she tells him directly, Karan talk some sense into Nandini. She didn’t even think once how Karan too has to have a threshold wherein he may accept anything when it comes to himself but now his wife and kid are here getting humiliated, slapped and he’s being expected to play pacifist and tell them they’re wrong all the time. Tulsi slapping Parth wouldn’t have been as bad had she been a bit fair when it came to Nandini’s tiff with Damini. She never said a word to Damini about how she was wrong in saying such crass things. Had she done that, she would’ve been seen as being fair when she called Nandini out for slapping Damini and later when Damini slapped Nandini, she made it seem like it was you two settling scores while I had no power over either to say or stop this argument. Again she didn’t acknowledge Damini had been wrong. Later when Karan and Gautam got into an argument about their wives having that slapfest, again she didn’t tell Gautam how his wife started it. She asked both to shut up but didn’t acknowledge the elephant in the room. Karan was bound to feel that he is being given the stepchild treatment and by extension so is his family after repeated incidents. So it’s actually a genuine issue that is being explored here.

Problem again isn’t Karan hating Tulsi where she will shed tears, but how Tulsi is wrong here too isn’t being called out and Parth getting killed has no built up whatsoever. Parth’s 180 is so forced that it makes us as an audience feel like we are being taken for granted and considered as fools. We don’t mind Karan having an evil son who gets killed by Tulsi leading to Karan hating her but at least don’t think we are fools when you spring it up on us out of nowhere!

Whatever you said is right. Tulsi might love Karan but it always lies in her mind that Karan was taken in despite being illegitimate so he owes to this household and should be ready to let go. Gautam was sent away from home despite being eldest legitimate child hence he needs to be over compensated..

In fact in this logic Parth being greedy wasn't even unexpected had he always seen his father keeping Tulsi and SN ahead of him, his mother and siblings It's just that he wasn't only greedy but also evil..

However the thing is all these step treatment will be forgotten and we will only be shown that Karan's hypocrisy on hating for killing an evil Parth

Aside in my opinion this was not even needed. This shooting won't create even 10% of the impact that Ansh' death did

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Posted: an hour ago

Originally posted by: bpatil3

I think it's Vaishnvi who shot Parth, and Tulsi got the blame. This sacrifice of Tulsi for Vaishnvi is as a prayschit of her grandson ruining an innocent girl's life, assaulting her in the name of marriage.

Also as a woman Tulsi wants to protect Vaishnvi, kyunki Vaishnvi ko to abhi jeena hai.

I think so to

Had made a post on this yesterday... Want to understand where and what will Rio do

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Posted: 54 minutes ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Whatever you said is right. Tulsi might love Karan but it always lies in her mind that Karan was taken in despite being illegitimate so he owes to this household and should be ready to let go. Gautam was sent away from home despite being eldest legitimate child hence he needs to be over compensated..

In fact in this logic Parth being greedy wasn't even unexpected had he always seen his father keeping Tulsi and SN ahead of him, his mother and siblings It's just that he wasn't only greedy but also evil..

However the thing is all these step treatment will be forgotten and we will only be shown that Karan's hypocrisy on hating for killing an evil Parth

Aside in my opinion this was not even needed. This shooting won't create even 10% of the impact that Ansh' death did

Exactly, they should have built up more on Parth feeling an undercurrent of resentment towards the Viranis always but hiding it. But when Rio came, that dam burst and now he’s in his f**k it now we play ball mode.

Why they made him abuse Vaishnavi is what baffles me too. Rather his cover would’ve been even more solid and Vaishnavi would’ve really been conflicted and made into a more layered character if she found out the truth but Parth was a loving and good husband to her. It would’ve been so much better to see her torn between her loyalty to Tulsi and her love for Parth who she knows is about to backstab Tulsi. But they wanted to avoid that route for god knows what reason.

Tulsi can shoot Mihir himself and it won’t make the same impact as her shooting Ansh did because Ekta made sure he was so evil and we hated him so much that the bullet he got felt earned and so long due! It was so satisfying to watch him meet his maker, in more ways than one!

We got a payoff for our emotional investment and the trigger being pulled felt like a reward. Nothing will top that, it failed in Kyunki in the previous season itself when she shot Eklavya, played by Sky too! Wouldn’t make any difference even now even if she shoots all her grandsons by making them stand in a row and going at them with a machine gun!

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Posted: 50 minutes ago

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Thank you.

Mahishasur is a demon who was granted a boon by Brahma Dev after he committed a very severe penance. He wanted immortality but it’s never granted so he thought he could outsmart the gods themselves and asked that he could only be slain by a woman as his boon. He assumed women were weak and he was a literal shapeshifting demon so he would easily overpower any woman stupid enough to try and take him on.

After the boon is granted he wrecks havoc across all the known worlds and terrorises humans and gods alike assuming he’s invincible and immortal by extension.

If you know anything about Karma then you’ll understand what I say next easily. Krishna says that Karma is something that decides what happens and becomes of us. Whenever anyone underwent severe penance, enough to merit any form of the divine to appear before them and grant them a boon of their choice, they had accrued enough good Karma that the Supreme Divine had to reward them per their own wishes and desires regardless of which form is invoked be it Shiv, Brahma, Vishnu or any Devi. So long as their good Karma outweighs their sins they will not be punished no matter what because the penance along with any other good deeds they did act as a shield that protects them even from divine retribution, quite literally. But this is where we get to every deed matters part - once the bad karmas outnumber the good ones, then it’s time for the punishment, which in these cases inevitably meant death by some form of divine who would appear.

Mahishasur had himself asked to be slain by a woman so when things got to the point where he could be punished, Durga Maa is said to have been invoked and she slays him. But because before he was about to get killed he called her out as “Maa” and sought her forgiveness she asked him what he wanted as a last wish, as he had addressed her as “Maa”, she wouldn’t spare his life but she would grant him one last wish as he repented in his dying moments and was genuine when he addressed her as “Maa”, and anyone who seeks refuge from her as a child of hers shall never be empty handed.

Mahishasur understood he was going to be killed, he understood it was Moksha for him because Devi herself had appeared to slay him but he wished she be addressed as Mahishasur Mardini for eternity, literally meaning the slayer of Mahishasur. He asked her that whenever people create an idol of hers, he always be placed at her feet as he’s now so he’s never forgotten and so that his arrogance, ignorance and ego serve as a reminder and lesson to men such as him in the future who shall underestimate women. Maa was pleased by what he asked and told him “Tathastu” as in So It Shall Be. Ergo, to this date, Maa is referred to as Mahishasur Mardini and its one of her names. Her idols have his likeness beneath her feet, begging moments before he’s slain.


Oh okay. Thanks for explaining to me. This helps understanding why they are playing this bgm. So they are playing Mahishasur on Parth because he’s underestimating Vaishnavi and Tulsi who are women and even abusing Vaishnavi?
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Posted: 49 minutes ago

More than Tulasi, I am hating Nandini in this track.She is a very selfish and self absorbed person. Even when she was having conflicts with Karan she was not bothered about the argument affecting her child.. She herself faced abusive and manipulative behavior and if Tulasi had not supported her against her own son, then.. As far as Tulasi is concept shr stands by her principles and if she said I have accepted Karan, then she is stating facts.. do you think it is easy for any woman to accept a child born out of her husband illegitimate relationship, that top of a woman who actively tried to sabotage her Marriage but here Nandini - first say that people are living off her husband, then say it was not my intention to state like that, Regarding Vaishnavi- her son was berating a girl whom he supposedly lovex, but she couldn't correct him, herself, her son cannot be wrong, that girl came from village so she is of a loose character.. and her unreasonable demand that why Tulasi accepted Rio, etc.. they are many such which makes her unlikable

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Posted: 48 minutes ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Mahisasur is a demon in Hinduism (Asur word is used for Demon, Mahi was his name and he could transform into an ox) who was carrying out a havoc everywhere because he had a boon that no man can kill him, therefore Gods had a woman created for this, giving her a part of their power to kill her. This is Devi Durga whom we worship during Navratri and Durga Puja

Later Mahisasur heard about her she was very beautiful so he thought of marrying her. He sends his henchmen to ask her marry him, but She says She would marry only the one who defeats her, Mahisasur gets angry and starts sending to her his most powerful men including Chand Munda (killing them she also is called Chamunda). These things carry out for 9 days. Eventually Mahisasur himself comes, Durga Ma then confronts her seated on a lion (so she is also called SinghVahini or the one whose vehicle is lion) and kills him after a fierce battle and becomes Mahisasur Mardini (the one who killed Mahisasur)

In this show seems they will equate Tulsi to Durga Ma, and will play Jai Jay Jai Mahishasur Mardani when she shoots Parth, so they are establishing who Mahisasur is

Thanks. Didn’t know demons existed in Hinduism too
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Posted: 38 minutes ago

Originally posted by: The_Best

Thanks. Didn’t know demons existed in Hinduism too

There is no one single evil demon (like Shaitan or Lucifer) there are different demons who try to create havoc and are then killed

The concept of demons in Hinduisms is older than in any other religion.

There are different kinds of non humans-- Rakshas, Danav, Asur/Daiya etc. while most from these are evil, there are also good like Vibhishan was a good Rakshas, Prahlad was a good Asur/Daitya, so was his grandson MahaBali. He was so good that he is actually promised to be the chief of heaven and gods in the next cycle (Manvantar)

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Posted: 32 minutes ago

Originally posted by: NeerajaGirish

More than Tulasi, I am hating Nandini in this track.She is a very selfish and self absorbed person. Even when she was having conflicts with Karan she was not bothered about the argument affecting her child.. She herself faced abusive and manipulative behavior and if Tulasi had not supported her against her own son, then.. As far as Tulasi is concept shr stands by her principles and if she said I have accepted Karan, then she is stating facts.. do you think it is easy for any woman to accept a child born out of her husband illegitimate relationship, that top of a woman who actively tried to sabotage her Marriage but here Nandini - first say that people are living off her husband, then say it was not my intention to state like that, Regarding Vaishnavi- her son was berating a girl whom he supposedly lovex, but she couldn't correct him, herself, her son cannot be wrong, that girl came from village so she is of a loose character.. and her unreasonable demand that why Tulasi accepted Rio, etc.. they are many such which makes her unlikable

This track has completely destroyed Nandani and also to a great extent Karan. That is why I am saying Karan Nandani fans would be cursing themselves for asking for a track for themselves

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