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Posted: 5 hours ago

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

Propoganda shuru - equating everything India does to Israel and trying to potray that both the countries have same ideology..this propoganda is continuation of what they did to PC after her oscar stint..

America itself dint give passport and visa approval to its director because he has Palestinian passport while they dont get called out for it

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this is nothing compared to Palestinian propoganda videos where they used children as props to show them as dead when they were v much alive and just props.

And at the same time they used children children as human shields. Only reason why some children have died in that war. The mind of Islamic terrorists is cruel and evil.

even in war, Israel takes a lot of effort to protect Palestinian civilians while trying to eliminate Hamas and recover hostages. Israel has done more for Palestinian children’s safety from Hamas and brainwashing in madras as than Palestenians themselves.

Rumors are that while the rest of the world sign FTAs, Hamas wants to ink a deal with Pakistan to send children to their madrassas for terrorist training. These are rumors still and to be confirmed (but where there is smoke there is fire)

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Breaking news

US-Israel-Iran War News Live Updates: Gulf energy sites continue to be targeted; Kuwait's key oil refinery hit again by Iranian drone


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Posted: 4 hours ago

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/2034751443992027417

let’s analyze this post. Some people will scream - this is anti Muslim and phobic etc.

But think of the other side. How can anyone elect someone in power who openly supports Islamic extremism (or even their spouse and then excuses it away as nothing).

Anyone that has faced Islamic terrorism - in this case 9/11 in NY will be scared. POTUS once said how do we know who is the good vs bad. Hence they ask for this.

key question is


How does one ensure that such radicals don’t get elected in a free democracy without regards to race/culture/religion because outright bans as suggested is simply not possible in real democracies like US / India.

This applies to India as well as have elected reps who are in jail (extremist ties), can’t say Bharat Mata ki jai and say things like Jai Palestine instead / refuse to say Vandey Mataram.

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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

#Winners

1. United States : whether they lose 10, 20 or evn 50 billion in a war, its just a small chunk for them. What they gain, however, is control over large oil reserves wherever they intervene. And im specifically saying americans because, in the long run, their citizens benefit as the country remains a superpower with significant control over the global energy sector. So every american benefits from it, whether they support it or not.

2. Russia : The second country gaining highly is russia. The world has started easing sanctions on them due to energy shortages and dependence on oil and gas.


#Losers

1. China : China is losing here as it is gradually losing its allies or puppets. Countries like venezuela and iran are under pressure (they have already lost venezuela though) and even its investments in the afgan-pak region are becoming unstable due to ongoing conflicts betn afgan-pak (though those conflicts are different in nature).

2. Iran : Another major loser is iran (regime). No matter how people try to frame it, iran is taking heavy losses. They are resisting strongly but the damage caused by the US/israel side is huge and in many cases, its irreversible. Even if new leadership emerges, the scale of losses remains huge.

3. GCC Countries : Gulf nations are facing economic setbacks despite not being directly involved. Regional instability affects trade, tourism and investor confidence. Prolonged instability may push investors toward more stable regions like singapore. (I forgot to mention but singapore may also make huge money but lets see)

4. EU : EU will also be affected. Since russia is benefiting, then EU is likely to face losses, as they are often inversely proportional to each other.

5. Energy dependent countries (SoKor, Jp) : Then there are countries that will continue to struggle like south korea, which depends heavily on energy supplies passing through the strait of hormuz. They will face economic pressure and have limited strategic flexibility. They may either remain vassal state to USA or be forced to explore new ones, possibly even china. Japan, however, remains strongly pro USA.


#Neutral players

1. India : India is neither gaining nor losing just like their petrol prices. It has maintained stable energy supplies and balanced relations with multiple sides. However, in the long run, this war could strengthen india’s image as a reliable and development focused partner, leading to more free trade deal.


#Long term gainers

1. Israel : Looking at long term gainers, israel could emerge stronger. Although it is currently suffering losses, if it wins the war, it could become a dominant regional power in the middle east. After weakening iran, other countries in the region will not dare to challenge israel. Despite current damage, israel could benefit in the long run.

2. India (potential) : In the long run, india may also benefit from its neutral stance. As a stable and development focused nation, it might attract more trade partnerships and global trust.


#Actual Winners (conditional)

1. Iranian people : Finally, if the US/israel win the war without using nukes, the biggest long term winners could be the iranian people. They might gain freedom and if stable democracy is established and even if they become vassal state of USA, their development could accelerate, similar to countries like south korea or japan, there is reason why iran is no.4 in world when it comes to IQ. New iran could emerge as major developed nation in the region. Since the losses have already occurred, i just hope the people there get the freedom they truly deserve.


And btw if u are talking about direct profits, the immediate beneficiaries are defense manufacturers worldwide. Companies whose weapons perform better in real world wars tend to gain credibility which translates into large scale contracts and long term deals. And second immediate gainer in terms of money is russia, since sanctions on them have already eased up they are making huge money currently.


Edit: Oh and yes, hamas and hezbollah are also likely to be major losers. Since their sponsors are being hit hard, the flow of funding will shrink, weakening them significantly. Oct 2023 was a huge mistake in the post 2000 world for those organizations. It has truly reshaped middle east geopolitics, possibly forever.

Thank you so much for explaining it so well. 🙏

Why none of the other countries is able to stop USA from doing this? Every country knows that Trump is going to same to them also..

Are other countries willingly going to agree to be vassal states to USA or will it eventually be a start of WWIII?

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Posted: 4 hours ago

https://x.com/CalltoActivism/status/2034714431238647878

this makes you appreciate the work being done by the Indian govt even more.


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Posted: 4 hours ago

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Thank you so much for explaining it so well. 🙏

Why none of the other countries is able to stop USA from doing this? Every country knows that Trump is going to same to them also..

Are other countries willingly going to agree to be vassal states to USA or will it eventually be a start of WWIII?

The answer is very simple. The world would prefer to be a vassal state of US (not that is going to happen - hence they are with US and not planning to be a vassal state) versus being subject to Islamic extremism. No one in their mind is thinking Islamic terrorism is a small problem / not a problem except selective few here and there (excluding “largely peaceful majority”)

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Posted: 3 hours ago

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Thank you so much for explaining it so well. 🙏

Why none of the other countries is able to stop USA from doing this? Every country knows that Trump is going to same to them also..

Are other countries willingly going to agree to be vassal states to USA or will it eventually be a start of WWIII?

They also really want to destablize Iran and want trump to do the bad job for them..

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Posted: 2 hours ago

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Thank you so much for explaining it so well. 🙏

Why none of the other countries is able to stop USA from doing this? Every country knows that Trump is going to same to them also..

Are other countries willingly going to agree to be vassal states to USA or will it eventually be a start of WWIII?

Why are other countries not able to stop the USA?? The simple answer is that they dont have the power to do so. Trying to stop the USA is almost like provoking a direct war with it. If even china and russia are not actively stopping the USA, then who else has the capability?? The answer is simple, no one.

Secondary reasons are that many countries are not allies of iran and stopping the USA in support of Iran would mean risking an attack from the USA themselves. While some countries may have strategic ties with iran for oil and energy, the threat posed by the USA is far more greater and risky.

Also USA usually targets countries with significant oil reserves, so most other countries remain relatively safe. Currently, parts of LatAm are the only one under pressure but they lack the power to resist actively. Cuba is next target of USA but from what i read recently, its leadership has already shown willingness to engage in talks with the USA so a war or conflict may be avoided.


Some countries have become vassal states of USA out of necessity, aligned themselves closely with the USA while still maintaining a degree of autonomy. For ex: south korea, japan, taiwan and GCC countries, NATO. These nations retain internal independence but accept certain conditions such as hosting US military bases and not directly challenging US dominance. In reality, they are not necessarily losing out from this arrangement, as many of them have developed rapidly and benefited economically. So, they continue this alignment as long as it remains advantageous.

However, under trump, the USA has become a less reliable ally. Because of this, it is likely that once current war settles in, many of its allies or vassal states will begin exploring alternative strategic partnerships. South korea, for ex, already appears to be engaging more with china. GCC countries may also follow a similar path and even the EU has started reconsidering its strategic positioning, especially after controversies like trump’s greenland ambitions.

Trump’s disastrous term has alienated many US allies. While some people say being an enemy of the US is better than being its ally, the reality is that, until recently, the US maintained strong control and coordination within its alliances. But now with trump as president that stability seems to be weakening nd their allies are increasingly looking for other options.

As for WWIII, it is unlikely, unless USA uses nukes on iran. However GCC countries have said that they might join USA-Israel side if Iran continues to attack them so cant be said anything at this moment, its just wait nd watch situation.

Edited by IamRaj96 - 2 hours ago

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