YRKKH BTS, SM updates & Spoilers Thread #119 - Page 79

Originally posted by: Debospeaks

The duration between the WD and the phone call was 6 months. Why did he even listened to Goenkas??? He should have talked to Akshara directly by going to Pathankot because Manish knew that she's in Pathankot. It's always their families that came in between their relationship.

But that's not the case with Armaan here, he has himself created the present situation due to his own wrong decisions and misunderstandings.

His situation can never be compared to that of Abhimanyu and Akshara's. There were multiple other factors that aggravated the situation but here Armaan's character himself turned a 360 degree turn and did all sort of things that were never expected from him, but still has no remorse. Nonetheless is trying to play the victim card himself

But yes i agree armaan's one was self inflicted without the involvement of any third party. Nobody did any planning plotting to seperate them

Originally posted by: Debospeaks

The duration between the WD and the phone call was 6 months. Why did he even listened to Goenkas??? He should have talked to Akshara directly by going to Pathankot because Manish knew that she's in Pathankot. It's always their families that came in between their relationship.

But that's not the case with Armaan here, he has himself created the present situation due to his own wrong decisions and misunderstandings.

His situation can never be compared to that of Abhimanyu and Akshara's. There were multiple other factors that aggravated the situation but here Armaan's character himself turned a 360 degree turn and did all sort of things that were never expected from him, but still has no remorse. Nonetheless is trying to play the victim card himself

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Originally posted by: Krinya

Akshu & abhiras situation are stark similar ..akshus husband handed over the signed divorce papers , threw her out of his life jab akshu se galti hui, did he consider akshus wish here ? Abhiras husband believed she's a threat to their daughter & ran away with pookie , when did he consider abhira ? Suddenly one day the love evaporated ..

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This comparison is not correct because you don't need consent of a partner for divorce, Akshara's wishes are of no consequences, if a partner wants divorce then they want divorce, divorce is a contract, a child is a living breathing human with rights, how can two be compared?

But none can keep child away from biological parents without proper custody order from court

Husband divorcing wife is not equal to wife keeping away his child from him

One can't use their child as a tool for revenge against their husband, if they do then they are a toxic mother

Also it is unfair that people who supported a father's rights to be taken away hated on him when he only begged to spend time with his son, now can say that others are hypocrites because they are not supporting Abhira

If Abhimanyu was a sperm donor then Abhira is an egg donor

If Akshara was right in separating child from his parent then Armaan is right too

Bottomline - A child is not a tool to be used in a mother or father's conquest against their partners

Originally posted by: Debospeaks

There is a major difference between own biological child and muh-bola baccha. Vidya proved that by supporting Rohit over Armaan when he disobeyed Vidya and Armaan also proved that by choosing only Maira over a father less little baby 'Daksh', whom his dear brother asked him to take care as his own child at the death bed. Allegedly the trauma he received from the death of his mom and brother only led him to behave the way he did but conveniently forgot to keep the promise he gave to his dying brother.

But Vidya and Armaan are different.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

if it's directed towards me i will still say abhira should get her child back like how abhim deserved to have his child back.

A bad husband is not equal to a bad father

A bad wife is not equal to bad mother.

If armaan thinks she is bad and if ak thinks abhim is bad then it's their thought process. Legally both have no rights to seperate a child from real parents.

But abhim is crucified for divorcing ak just to save his family as even after calmly giving her a juice after white day and he asks her to go and rest. But if akshara comes out and manjari gets stroke attack what people expect a sane man to do. Her coming out can literally give high bp to manjari and arohi can also face abortion. But if akshara can not understand the gravity of situation then abhim as every right to protect remaining members of his family and he did that.

So in my opinion a father or mother can not be punished based on husband or wife's opinion.

No it was directed to everyone bec these discussions never seem to get over when they're totally irrelevant in the context of gen 4 ..

@bold i can never agree with this ..abhim didnt divorce akshu "because " , there is no because , he just divorced her in anger , it was mindless & cruel ..nothing which he lost belonged only to him , babies belonged to akshu too ..neil was like her brother.....akshu didnt hide abhirs truth "because" , here also there's no because ...what is wrong is wrong ..she was running away from the reality n it would backfire one day or the other ..

When the action itself is wrong , no justification holds ..

Ofc the intent matters , if akshu intentionally got Neil killed & then killed both her babies, ill agree with you ...akshu intentionally hid abhir ,but not to seek revenge still, nobody would defend her for that ..one wrong decision leads to another and so on.....

if abhira intentionally got pookie kidnapped then ill say arman is right ..

Originally posted by: MsWhiskerson

This comparison is not correct because you don't need consent of a partner for divorce, Akshara's wishes are of no consequences, if a partner wants divorce then they want divorce, divorce is a contract, a child is a living breathing human with rights, how can two be compared?

But none can keep child away from biological parents without proper custody order from court

Husband divorcing wife is not equal to wife keeping away his child from him

One can't use their child as a tool for revenge against their husband, if they do then they are a toxic mother

Also it is unfair that people who supported a father's rights to be taken away hated on him when he only begged to spend time with his son, now can say that others are hypocrites because they are not supporting Abhira

If Abhimanyu was a sperm donor then Abhira is an egg donor

If Akshara was right in separating child from his parent then Armaan is right too

Bottomline - A child is not a tool to be used in a mother or father's conquest against their partners

Again..lets not mix others opinions with mine ....akshu was wrong in not informing abhim & arman is wrong in not informing abhira ..abhim is wrong to divorce his wife when she suffered miscarriage , arman is wrong to believe abhira is a threat to "his" daughter...akshu was wrong to have run away , arman is wrong to run away ...akshu is not wrong in marrying abhinav , arman won't be wrong if he marries geetu (after divorce ofc) & abhira won't be wrong if she marries anshuman ..whether its the mother or father, the child must have a choice , if maira wants to live with arman , she should..abhira shouldn't contest it

Abhimanyu and akshus story is over ..neither did abhim hold any grudge nor akshu ..they were getting married & fans are still fighting for abhimanyus rights god knows why

If arman is right acc to you , abhira will also forgive him soon ..so i guess they've set the correct narrative both the times ...

Originally posted by: Mehersudha

at least goenkas were in touch with greattt acharaa. Did she tell them kid is alive. Which woman or mother lies a kid dead or delivered or told after an year. When manyu came home why did not she tell truth. When ak is mahan why lying done or hiding. Then what about ar. 7 yrs he is tight lipped and he is still hiding the truth even in front. Both have same darr of losing kid to other partner. When acharaa is right in hiding ar too is right na. Same logic you use. If it's Abheera in ar place hiding pookie you all could have danced happily. 🤗

Concluding this topic from my side by only one sentence. No matter how much hate you have for Akshara because of obvious reasons, her circumstances were never similar to that of Armaan. At least the episodes that I watched telecasted so.

Originally posted by: Krinya

No it was directed to everyone bec these discussions never seem to get over when they're totally irrelevant in the context of gen 4 ..

@bold i can never agree with this ..abhim didnt divorce akshu "because " , there is no because , he just divorced her in anger , it was mindless & cruel ..nothing which he lost belonged only to him , babies belonged to akshu too ..neil was like her brother.....akshu didnt hide abhirs truth "because" , here also there's no because ...what is wrong is wrong ..she was running away from the reality n it would backfire one day or the other ..

When the action itself is wrong , no justification holds ..

Ofc the intent matters , if akshu intentionally got Neil killed & then killed both her babies, ill agree with you ...akshu intentionally hid abhir ,but not to seek revenge still, nobody would defend her for that ..one wrong decision leads to another and so on.....

if abhira intentionally got pookie kidnapped then ill say arman is right ..

Even court considers different things before punishing the criminal.

Was it for self defence if yes they may not even get punishment for their action.

Same way for me abhim saved his family and divorced ak as a way to save his family.

What akshara would have done if kairav dies because of abhimanyu that day. If she can send abhim to jail without strong proof then kairav ke waqt woh bhi divorce kar hi dethi.

What akshara did when abhinav died she directly sent abhim to jail without even any strong proof against him which was worse than abhimanyu divorcing akshara silently and letting her go.

If you think abhim is wrong for me ak is equally wrong. And for me both armaan and akshara are same as akshara as a fl made a father to mourn for a child which was alive and armaan made a mother to think her child is missing because of her crave for it.

Also i Don't think abhira or abhimanyu should not claim child back. As for me that's a way to justify theft. Many rich people To skip process of adoption buy kids from theif. Yes even they have raised the child with a good and happy family so what should real parents do give up on their baby?Will it not normalize stealing and giving wrong message to society that if you want custody Don't fight for custody but just take baby run away and keep the child with you for 7 years other parent will give up. That's what the narrative dkp is serving. I definitely want abhira to claim the child back even if child does not want to leave father. As in the end we should never normalize parental alienation or child kidnapping in the name of parenting or happy family.

Originally posted by: Krinya

Again..lets not mix others opinions with mine ....akshu was wrong in not informing abhim & arman is wrong in not informing abhira ..abhim is wrong to divorce his wife when she suffered miscarriage , arman is wrong to believe abhira is a threat to "his" daughter...akshu was wrong to have run away , arman is wrong to run away ...akshu is not wrong in marrying abhinav , arman won't be wrong if he marries geetu (after divorce ofc) & abhira won't be wrong if she marries anshuman ..whether its the mother or father, the child must have a choice , if maira wants to live with arman , she should..abhira shouldn't contest it

Abhimanyu and akshus story is over ..neither did abhim hold any grudge nor akshu ..they were getting married & fans are still fighting for abhimanyus rights god knows why

If arman is right acc to you , abhira will also forgive him soon ..so i guess they've set the correct narrative both the times ...