India Pakistan After Ceasefire Discussion- Thread 4 - Page 3

Originally posted by: Manavi_kesari

seems u r not aware .it is in news Bharat made it public that request came from pak n pak ran to US for ceasefire n us said to pak to request Bharat n they called Bharat n requested n then ceasefire agreement done n after few hrs pak violated the ceasefire & Bharat army replying them.

You fallen for the pak narrative on sm n stop reading pak side narrative .

I'm reading posts here only. I didn't even check twitter today. Please link me the source where India announced before accepting the ceasefire. Cos from what I remember the decision of ceasefire acceptance and that it was initiated by Pak was announced at the same time in the same statement released to public.

I didn't expect you would accuse me of reading pak side narrative. 👎

Kitne ghatiya log hain yeh. Koi baat nahi, Shani Dev sabko unke karmon ka fal dete hain – inhe bhi milega.

Originally posted by: FBIr3port

The President is the ceremonial head of the Armed Forces in India.

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Are you actually debating this with me ? Or trying to make a vague point using the word “ceremonial” ?

So let me ask plainly. Who is the commander in chief that is making final decisions ? PM - Yes / No ?

In India President is the ceremonial head for everything but the decision/actions on their behalf is taken by PM along with his set of core cabinet group and other ministers.

So same here army heads officially are under the President but practically their are directed by the Defense minister and in turn the PM

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Well let me be very clear and people are free to call me out for this

We need to wait till 12th May's joint statement. Until there is some condition favourable to India declared in it, Shehbaz isn't wrong in claiming victory..

It's because although we destroyed everything there and responded to their actions with utmost zeal. That was never out objective

Our objective was to stop terrorist harbouring from Pakistan, to avenge Pahalgam and to make Pakistan unable to fight against us

Now we all know Pakistan won't stop harbouring terrorists, just shift it into more dense areas

We couldn't catch the culprits of Pahalgam (assuming) they might not return it since their return into Pakistan

While we destroyed their bases so much they still attacked us after ceasefire announcement showing that they still have the capacity to hold/attack us (even if not to sustain that attack)

If you go into a battle and don't achieve your goals even after destroying enemy it's a loss for you.

I am hoping something good comes up on 12th May.

So thank you for claiming that you believe that Shehbaz was right in claiming victory.

one could not be further from the truth if one tried.. I give up

If we believe that our view is exactly how PM should behave else enemy won - there goes the country and its policy and strategy and the unity.

This is plain speak by me. 🇮🇳 is a democracy so feel free to make things clear.

I have quoted you a lot and responded. I won’t further so that we don’t argue and fight - not anger but out of respect. I continue to believe we are on the same side here which is 🇮🇳

I still request everyone there are people who want to divide us, but please don’t listen to them.

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

I'm reading posts here only. I didn't even check twitter today. Please link me the source where India announced before accepting the ceasefire. Cos from what I remember the decision of ceasefire acceptance and that it was initiated by Pak was announced at the same time in the same statement released to public.

I didn't expect you would accuse me of reading pak side narrative. 👎

The press briefing statement was that DG of Pakistan called Indian counterpart to end these and de escalate. Indian military establishment agreed for this agreement.

So yes we did announce that they called us.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

In India President is the ceremonial head for everything but the decision/actions on their behalf is taken by PM along with his set of core cabinet group and other ministers.

So same here army heads officially are under the President but practically their are directed by the Defense minister and in turn the PM

so who is the commander in chief ? It’s not that hard an answer. Really.

Originally posted by: FBIr3port

Please read your paragraph that contains the reference to fail. I responded as how I understood it. 🙏🏻

we are on same side here which is 🇮🇳 my brother. With room for differences but united in our support for 🇮🇳

I am definitely all in all for my country but that doesn’t mean I can’t have questions for the government.

https://x.com/sidhant/status/1921272567203000587

Pakistan has thanked many nations for support, this is where we lost.

We need major changes in our diplomacy, when China is a big power AND our neighbour, there's no point fighting with them

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Well let me be very clear and people are free to call me out for this

We need to wait till 12th May's joint statement. Until there is some condition favourable to India declared in it, Shehbaz isn't wrong in claiming victory..

It's because although we destroyed everything there and responded to their actions with utmost zeal. That was never out objective

Our objective was to stop terrorist harbouring from Pakistan, to avenge Pahalgam and to make Pakistan unable to fight against us

Now we all know Pakistan won't stop harbouring terrorists, just shift it into more dense areas

We couldn't catch the culprits of Pahalgam (assuming) they might not return it since their return into Pakistan

While we destroyed their bases so much they still attacked us after ceasefire announcement showing that they still have the capacity to hold/attack us (even if not to sustain that attack)

If you go into a battle and don't achieve your goals even after destroying enemy it's a loss for you.

I am hoping something good comes up on 12th May.

I’m really upset. The least they could’ve done was ask to handle the terrorists.