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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: pilot100

I am hundred percent sure, it is to free Nashwa only. Otherwise I don't see any other reason, why would he defend Ammar. He will ink a deal with Bakhtiyar

interesting take tbh. He will only fight for Ammar knowing about how Ammar is just to get back his love who doesn't only reject him many times with logic but shows no regret either and proudly tells him her reasons. And she also says that he has never seen unhappiness. Isn't that an odd obsession?

Burhan isn't like that at all. But I guess he could take clients as he wishes or do this for Nashwa...but won't it make him grey or an enabler? (Again not my words but the shippers...they called Nashwa an enabler lol)

This is why I always said the so called justice system was established and maintained by the powerful as an illusion of providing justice. There are only a few good lawyers or judges but they too are often threatened and their hands can also be tied due to the rules of and loopholes of the system.


And I thought these girls hate Nashwa for how dismissive she was towards Mahi but are now all okay to have her with their hero Burhan who they said clearly deserves better than her? (Not my words but theirs). I always said they're human and struggle like anyone else. I like to show people some grace when it's clear they're in a difficult situation.

How about Beenish? Beenish called him bhai and fought for what's right and even told her brother off. Her own brother. He will now wrong Beenish?

This below is not at you pilot but my musing in general the reaction of some of the people online:

The shippers now says let's wait till the last episodes? Ironic that I was shamed for months for saying let due process take place while clearly stating my stance on enbalers.

The shippers were saying no need for trial, we have all evidence are the ones now saying let's wait for the last episode to unfold before judging? Just because of Burhan and for their ship? Hmm.

So, due process and waiting is only the previlige of certified heros but not a human right of all human evil or not or right or wrong.

The hypocrisy and double standard is stunning. Be it about feminism, justice, due process. They flip like a leaf in a sandstorm.

Can't wait for next week where they'll spew even more things like this.

"Would like to wait till the end" lol that crowd did such hallagulla and shamed me and twisted my words when I stated the same while maintaining my stance on justice, enabling and still understanding where a person comes from

Uff it's funny.

I'm sure they'll explain this somehow. When there is no logic used anything can be explained away.

Edited by Alizba63 - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

I am reading a lot of comments about this drama on SM. I want to give my opinion. I think the main problem is that when an incident happens people would want to see what happens after it. Here the drama could have handled Maheen's case in a better way. The incident happened in probably Episode 9 and till now it went no where. And people were expecting some progress would be there but it didn't happen. And also no one mentions about that in the drama.

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Posted: 3 months ago

Plz save Ammar from all accusations

I want to see Ammar Nashwa happily married

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Posted: 3 months ago

Plz save Ammar from all accusations

I want to see Ammar Nashwa happily married

Why is Ammar so hot headed

Uffffff

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Alizba63

interesting take tbh. He will only fight for Ammar knowing about how Ammar is just to get back his love who doesn't only reject him many times with logic but shows no regret either and proudly tells him her reasons. And she also says that he has never seen unhappiness. Isn't that an odd obsession?

Burhan isn't like that at all. But I guess he could take clients as he wishes or do this for Nashwa...but won't it make him grey or an enabler? (Again not my words but the shippers...they called Nashwa an enabler lol)

This is why I always said the so called justice system was established and maintained by the powerful as an illusion of providing justice. There are only a few good lawyers or judges but they too are often threatened and their hands can also be tied due to the rules of and loopholes of the system.


And I thought these girls hate Nashwa for how dismissive she was towards Mahi but are now all okay to have her with their hero Burhan who they said clearly deserves better than her? (Not my words but theirs). I always said they're human and struggle like anyone else. I like to show people some grace when it's clear they're in a difficult situation.

How about Beenish? Beenish called him bhai and fought for what's right and even told her brother off. Her own brother. He will now wrong Beenish?

This below is not at you pilot but my musing in general the reaction of some of the people online:

The shippers now says let's wait till the last episodes? Ironic that I was shamed for months for saying let due process take place while clearly stating my stance on enbalers.

The shippers were saying no need for trial, we have all evidence are the ones now saying let's wait for the last episode to unfold before judging? Just because of Burhan and for their ship? Hmm.

So, due process and waiting is only the previlige of certified heros but not a human right of all human evil or not or right or wrong.

The hypocrisy and double standard is stunning. Be it about feminism, justice, due process. They flip like a leaf in a sandstorm.

Can't wait for next week where they'll spew even more things like this.

"Would like to wait till the end" lol that crowd did such hallagulla and shamed me and twisted my words when I stated the same while maintaining my stance on justice, enabling and still understanding where a person comes from

Uff it's funny.

I'm sure they'll explain this somehow. When there is no logic used anything can be explained away.

Yes Anika had given a hint that BURHAN will be a grey character. Till now he was shown white.

Yes this is sadly pure obsession for Nashwa from Burhan side which is why I am very frustrated about. How can they show him so illogical and without any self respect for a girl who has only rejected and insulted him. Also he is going to be an enabler indirectly, because if you defend a criminal, you are promoting crime. And what makes him feel, Nashwa will accept him, if she comes to know about this deal. And how can he betray Beenish 😡

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Alizba63

interesting take tbh. He will only fight for Ammar knowing about how Ammar is just to get back his love who doesn't only reject him many times with logic but shows no regret either and proudly tells him her reasons. And she also says that he has never seen unhappiness. Isn't that an odd obsession?

Burhan isn't like that at all. But I guess he could take clients as he wishes or do this for Nashwa...but won't it make him grey or an enabler? (Again not my words but the shippers...they called Nashwa an enabler lol)

This is why I always said the so called justice system was established and maintained by the powerful as an illusion of providing justice. There are only a few good lawyers or judges but they too are often threatened and their hands can also be tied due to the rules of and loopholes of the system.


And I thought these girls hate Nashwa for how dismissive she was towards Mahi but are now all okay to have her with their hero Burhan who they said clearly deserves better than her? (Not my words but theirs). I always said they're human and struggle like anyone else. I like to show people some grace when it's clear they're in a difficult situation.

How about Beenish? Beenish called him bhai and fought for what's right and even told her brother off. Her own brother. He will now wrong Beenish?

This below is not at you pilot but my musing in general the reaction of some of the people online:

The shippers now says let's wait till the last episodes? Ironic that I was shamed for months for saying let due process take place while clearly stating my stance on enbalers.

The shippers were saying no need for trial, we have all evidence are the ones now saying let's wait for the last episode to unfold before judging? Just because of Burhan and for their ship? Hmm.

So, due process and waiting is only the previlige of certified heros but not a human right of all human evil or not or right or wrong.

The hypocrisy and double standard is stunning. Be it about feminism, justice, due process. They flip like a leaf in a sandstorm.

Can't wait for next week where they'll spew even more things like this.

"Would like to wait till the end" lol that crowd did such hallagulla and shamed me and twisted my words when I stated the same while maintaining my stance on justice, enabling and still understanding where a person comes from

Uff it's funny.

I'm sure they'll explain this somehow. When there is no logic used anything can be explained away.

its always double standards when it comes to FL of any drama. Ml of a ship should never suffer, he is bechara, helpless, he deserves better. and mind you its always the women who are ML defenders
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: pilot100

I am hundred percent sure, it is to free Nashwa only. Otherwise I don't see any other reason, why would he defend Ammar. He will ink a deal with Bakhtiyar

Even if there is a deal what guarantee is there that he will get Nashwa back....I think Nashwa will free herself on her own like she said before...right now she has given up and accepted the situation she is in but Asad death will jolt her up and she will fight for what she believes in

I just hope they don't rush and tie up all the loose ends

I don't think there will be happy ending for Burhan and Nashwa...it will be open ended at the most

Here even u say anything u get labelled so now I don't feel like saying anything....just 4 episodes left so tolerating negativity just for yumna

Edited by Achelvi - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: Achelvi

Even if there is a deal what guarantee is there that he will get Nashwa back....I think Nashwa will free herself on her own like she said before...right now she has given up and accepted the situation she is in but Asad death will jolt her up and she will fight for what she believes in

I just hope they don't rush and tie up all the loose ends

I don't think there will be happy ending for Burhan and Nashwa...it will be open ended at the most

Here even u say anything u get labelled so now I don't feel like saying anything....just 4 episodes left so tolerating negativity just for yumna

Yeah even I know they won't have an happy ending. They were never destined to be together.

But then I don't understand, if they were not destined to be together, why did they have to show this love angle and waste so many episodes on building their relationship atleast from Burhan pov. They could have kept it as platonic relationship between the two just as a Mentor and Mentee. They could have shown Burhan aldready married too. They didn't have to show Burhan falling in love with Nashwa so madly. Also they could have taken some less famous actor too.

If they really want to show everyone paying for their karma, then as much as bad people should be punished, then even the good people should be rewarded for their good deeds. Burhan is such a good soul. Atleast he should be shown happy and satisfied in the end with or without Nashwa. Why should only he get a sad ending without any fault 😕. And it's not that ki, even Asim has done anything wrong, that he should see Burhan suffering. I really feel Nashwa doesn't deserve Burhan. So I hope Burhan forgets her. But I also know it's not possible. So whatever makes him happy, I am OK with that. I don't even mind him marrying Beenish. Beenish and Hadi , both life will be made. Since Burhan was also adopted, he wouldn't mind adopting Hadi too. It's like he is paying off his qarz

Edited by pilot100 - 3 months ago
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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: pressu

I am reading a lot of comments about this drama on SM. I want to give my opinion. I think the main problem is that when an incident happens people would want to see what happens after it. Here the drama could have handled Maheen's case in a better way. The incident happened in probably Episode 9 and till now it went no where. And people were expecting some progress would be there but it didn't happen. And also no one mentions about that in the drama.

Hey pressu,

The way they handled the assault plot is pretty bad. All the characters are behaving as if they have short term memory loss. Heroine is married to one of the ra*ist n the dialogues you here from the mother daughter duo is " ammar itna bura nahi hei" " I will fix him" blah blah . Lol

I know people don't have patience to wait till the end , but not even a single person talking about the crime n the way it's being treated as if it's not a big deal is infuriating to be honest.

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Posted: 3 months ago

Originally posted by: pilot100

Yeah even I know they won't have an happy ending. They were never destined to be together.

But then I don't understand, if they were not destined to be together, why did they have to show this love angle and waste so many episodes on building their relationship atleast from Burhan pov. They could have kept it as platonic relationship between the two just as a Mentor and Mentee. They could have shown Burhan aldready married too. They didn't have to show Burhan falling in love with Nashwa so madly. Also they could have taken some less famous actor too.

If they really want to show everyone paying for their karma, then as much as bad people should be punished, then even the good people should be rewarded for their good deeds. Burhan is such a good soul. Atleast he should be shown happy and satisfied in the end with or without Nashwa. Why should only he get a sad ending without any fault 😕. And it's not that ki, even Asim has done anything wrong, that he should see Burhan suffering. I really feel Nashwa doesn't deserve Burhan. So I hope Burhan forgets her. But I also know it's not possible. So whatever makes him happy, I am OK with that. I don't even mind him marrying Beenish. Beenish and Hadi , both life will be made. Since Burhan was also adopted, he wouldn't mind adopting Hadi too. It's like he is paying off his qarz

I agree with everything you say, but let's be real. If we can sympathize with beenish who was also a part y the same family n had zero sympathy for maheen girl n was shouting at her brother for not assaulting the girl but for creating a mess before her marriage n asked him to not to create message until her marriage ,as if other lives have no value, then, despite all the stupidity nashwa did by marrying ammar n all her logics, doesn't she as a person deserve happiness too? If bisma whose passiveness which lead to all these drama, If bisma can get someone who waited all his life only for her, got freedom n moved on with her long time lover n now husband, why shouldn't nashwa, her daughter get a happy ending?

At the end of the day, the girl had no evil intention, but to free her mom n see her happy even though it was was a stupid n foolish move. She too deserves to lead a happy life with a good man like bisma got asim. So, no matter how stupid things are gonna be with or without proper logic ( Despite the logic, I consider it as burhan attempting n taking his chance to free her)whether or not burhan takes up the case for nashwa , I still want nashwa to have a happy ending.

If we are compassionate towards bisma n beenish who were problematic as well, then nashwa deserves a chance too.

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