Qarz E Jaan (HUM) #4 - Usama, Nameer, Yumna | DT.N. Pg 136 - Page 26

Originally posted by: anikamathur

I want to thanks to all of the yumna fandoms for making QEJ a bi weekly drama and gave ATSH a Tuesday slot also you guys are amazing

I think it is a temporary arrangement anika. This show has only 26 episodes. Probably, something else will take up saturday's place soon.

Originally posted by: WabalMunni

Lol @ people are going easy on 'Usama' in QeJ because of SMD.

I think we have pages after pages, posts after posts to prove that it is not the case at all.

When you count all the posts on a thread and maximum number of posts are dedicated to ridiculing an actor's appearance, an actor's way of talking, an actor's way of walking and what not. Then yes! THAT IS HATRED.

Fine. You don't like an actor's acting, you have every right to criticize but then your criticism should be genuine. Criticize by all means, present your argument, provide examples that why do you think certain actor is not 'elevating' the character, substantiate your argument but why bash, troll and ridicule. Ohh ... but then it is fun right!

The sort of fun that used to happen/still happen for Yumna here as well and we all witnessed it.

The fact of the matter is we all have personal likes and dislikes, and hence grudges as well but we only mind it when it happens against one of 'our favourites' and yes agenda/hate driven 'criticism or rather trolling' is very real!

Munni,

@bold You said it all.

We used to fight for this when this happened to yumna. Now, the same thing is happening in this thread and I m really feeling bad for usama though I am not find of him at all. It's not alright to make fun of someone's physical appearance . It's okay to like nameer and find him hot, but, making fun of usama just because few people don't find him good looking isn't cool.

We too have criticized usama's acting n wished i someone else was in his place . But taking advantage of that to indirectly bash him n take digs at his physical appearance isn't fine. How is this any different from those people who used to bash yumna's physical appearance?

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

Achelvi,

Even if people want to praise usama, why shouldn't they? He is really doing it very well here. I am not fond of usama , but that doesn't mean I won't appreciate when he's doing a good job here.

And, just because people feel nameer is hot n want him opposite yumna, is it going to change the fact that ammar as a character is a ra*ist n criminal? Burhan is a well written character and I believe it's well executed too.

I am sorry, but m not seeing any variation in ammar character as well. The only thing the dude does is taking drugs, screaming, getting thrashed by his dad n roaming around with his useless friends. The only reason people are loving him is because nameet is good looking. I agree he has improvised from his previous show, but sorry I don't agree that he is overshadowing anybody. You can't become a hero overnight. Everyone who are considered A-listers today have worked hard n have earned it . Yumna, sajal, wahaj, bilal etc have worked in smaller roles n then rose up to this level. M sure nameer will do very well in the coming years. But, just because some prefer him over usama , doesn't make him best.

The first post I see here after watching episode is

Nameer overshadowed "everyone" in the episode. Like everyone. Seriously? Why others are getting mocked even if they praise usama as burhan.

When the show started, I didn't like usama at all. One can see my old posts where I even shipped ammar nashwa. But as the story progressed, I was able to like usama as burhan. Even if ammar is not a rapist, I would still choose burhan over ammar for nashwa. So I am really not getting some gaslighting comments here.

Originally posted by: nightingale1234

I think it is a temporary arrangement anika. This show has only 26 episodes. Probably, something else will take up saturday's place soon.

Not an temporary arrangement MSM too gone biweekly replacing JSPJ slot also Shireen Farhaad will replace the Wed-Thurs slot of MSM and Masoom will replace Qarz E Jaan

Originally posted by: WabalMunni

Exactly. Isn't this a sign of a good actor that when he/she plays a negative character then they make audience hate that character? I don't blame the writer as much because the story is structured as non- linear or rather 'flashback' dependent, due to which there is a mystery surrounding that night's events. The writer hasn't declared Ammar to be a 'ra**st' outright but we have been given enough signals/hints/reasons to not consider Ammar to be a hero or at the very least be wary of him.

Look at it this way. People started hating Wajih's character when they actually saw those scenes where he ra**ed, beat and then threw Nayab off the roof. Suppose if those scenes were not shown and Wajih was shown to be taking Nayab to the stairs only and Saba was only alleging it till that point based on a few facts, then I think audience would have been divided over Wajih as well, which again would have been wrong.

But then that is what the issue is. So what if it has not been openly declared that Ammar committed the act or not? Isn't there enough information available for us to deduce that Ammar is not a good character.

Or chalo .. even if later it is proven that Ammar is totally innocent and faultless but still till 'this' point of time there is enough stuff available that casts doubt on his character. So why romanticize him at all.

Even if they didn't show him doing the crime, they showed him acting inhuman & creepy towards maheen after the incident. His dialogues while blackmailing her " tum kitna khoobsurat lag rahi thi us raat ko, mein behak gaya"🤢.

I remember this whenever I see his face in the show.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

Even if they didn't show him doing the crime, they showed him acting inhuman & creepy towards maheen after the incident. His dialogues while blackmailing her " tum kitna khoobsurat lag rahi thi us raat ko, mein behak gaya"🤢.

I remember this whenever I see his face in the show.

True. This is a very valid point and makes Ammar totally unredeemable.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

@bold If you can enjoy dynamic between a rapist and a woman just because you found chemistry between actors. Then it's good. But don't expect everyone to feel the same. This is what I meant when I say subtle shipping of a rapist happening with fl here.

If one don't feel disgust towards a rapist character just because of an actor / chemistry then I don't have words to say.

For me let alone nashwa, no woman deserves to be around the surroundings of a rapist like ammar.

I think this is incredibly disrespectful. I do not think storm meant it like that. We all know what she meant.

People enjoy watching negative characters. They exist and need to be portrayed.

The last few pages are incredibly toxic. I personally don't see any shipping of Ammar-Nashwa here. The accusations of people shipping Nashwa with him. Is very very rude.

Don't like Usama's Burhan because they're secretly in love with Ammar????

Totally conflating Ammar and Nameer

What I see is a visceral reaction to Usama not being accepted by all. Many here praised Burhan but it seems the bitterness about not liking Usama is there.

I'm sad I was really enjoying this thread. This constant accusations and it being divided into two groups is sad.

Originally posted by: Achelvi

I don't think anyone here has said anything to Nameer...in fact have praised him only...ppl are talking about Ammar the character who is criminal and don't want such a character to end up with Nashwa who deserves the best...in fact almost everyone has said they would like to see Nameer with yumna but in another drama not here

Ppl are praising Burhan the character and not necessarily Usama the actor who is doing decent job so assuming ppl liking Usama wherein they are loving the character Burhan and want him to end up Nashwa

General take:

I should have addressed this yesterday but was trying to be polite and avoid mentioning it. So, there were comments on the thread directly quoting and indirectly telling people that they like Ammar-Nashwa and stating they have poor and shady morals.

I'm here hoping no one ships enablers! I think no one here ships them.

Anyways, back to the story... I saw those comments but when I came back here yesterday...they were gone. So, somebody reported them ??

So, yes. There were literal comments on Nameer being a rapist ( yes Nameer - apparently he looks and behaves like one)and members accused of shipping rapist. They were removed because I believe they got reported!! also go check and see that Mina edited comments. I do not usually speak without some facts.

While it's not directly towards me, I think this kind of take is making me incredibly uncomfortable. Guys I'm going to directly you to stop kindly. I really enjoy all of your takes. And yes, people have been somewhat harsh to Usama (they have the right) but it shouldn't rub off on Burhan ❤️

I love coming here. The other threads got crazies going on. Felt safe here but currently not feeling that.

Originally posted by: Alizba63

I think this is incredibly disrespectful. I do not think storm meant it like that. We all know what she meant.

People enjoy watching negative characters. They exist and need to be portrayed.

The last few pages are incredibly toxic. I personally don't see any shipping of Ammar-Nashwa here. The accusations of people shipping Nashwa with him. Is very very rude.

Don't like Usama's Burhan because they're secretly in love with Ammar????

Totally conflating Ammar and Nameer

What I see is a visceral reaction to Usama not being accepted by all. Many here praised Burhan but it seems the bitterness about not liking Usama is there.

I'm sad I was really enjoying this thread. This constant accusations and it being divided into two groups is sad.

"We still have to connect with the pair".

What does it mean? Why should we have to feel connect towards a rapist and a girl pair. Isn't good writing sign is making audience feel disgust towards a rapist instead of making people sympathize with him?

U feel last few pages are toxic but not the pages from the last few months where one actor is mocked and ridiculed for everything right from his personal posts to his appearance. That was so much fun no. Not toxic.

Imao no one is usama fan here. But we are just fed up with these "nameer overshadowed "everyone " praises and body/face shamming of usama which is happening in the name of fun here. Criticising acting is no problem.

Anyone with unbiased lens can see what's happening here. Just go through last few pages, you can see statements like burhan character is not needed for the show type of posts too.

We are speaking only now because we got fed up of whatever happening since last few months. One time/two time mocking an actor is okay. But not everytime especially when your own fav went through the same body shamming.

Whenever I opened this thread, all I see was how nameer overshadowed everyone, which reviewer praised him, what he posted, bringing up usama photoshoots to mock him, discussions on how burhan character is unnecessary.

Originally posted by: Sparkle232

"We still have to connect with the pair".

What does it mean? Why should we have to feel connect towards a rapist and a girl pair. Isn't good writing sign is making audience feel disgust towards a rapist instead of making sympathize with him?

U feel last few pages are toxic but not the pages from the last few months where one actor is mocked and ridiculed for everything right from his personal posts to his appearance. That was so much fun no. Not toxic.

Imao no one is usama fan here. But we are just fed up with these "nameer overshadowed "everyone " praises and body/face shamming of usama which is happening in the name of fun here. Criticising acting is no problem.

Anyone with unbiased lens can see what's happening here. Just go through last few pages, you can see statements like burhan character is not needed for the show type of posts too.

We are speaking only now because we got fed up of whatever happening since last few months. One time/two time mocking an actor is okay. But not everytime especially when your own fav went through the same body shamming.

Whenever I opened this thread, all I see was how nameer overshadowed everyone, which reviewer praised him, what he posted, bringing up usama photoshoots to mock him, discussions on how burhan character is unnecessary.

Nameer is not over shadowing anyone! Also, I know you guys said that Usama isn't the best and now we have to accept it. I appreciate that take guys!

You're totally on the good to share if you feel fed up ❤️

Burhan character plays an instrumental role in getting Bisma Asim together and mentoring Nashwa. Forget about romantic angle. He's an example of how to fight back elegantly. If someone feels his character is redundant that's their take....we cannot then accuse them of shipping Ammar -Nashwa and insult their morality.

I think people are making funny memes of Burhan? There are memes of Taya dado Ammar and Nashwa as well. I see that Burhan is roasted at times but it's in a fun and good spirit. Not a hateful one. Maybe I'm seeing it differently? Or missed a post? People talk about him not knowing Nashwa is his cousin and the blood group thing. I took it as a simple discussion... nothing more.