KMTMG Discussions Thread #9 - Page 83

My intent was not to have the last word either.

I was the biggest voice about the annulment papers and how that is wrong. [I remember posting something that acknowledged I am probably being stuck on that way too much.] I haven't come across the view on X either. And that was a surprise. I found it manipulative from Virat, and have mentioned so too, esp when in the next breath he mentions 'can you not sign until I figure out what's b/w u and i?' I've no idea how Ammu could take that crap.

Like I mentioned in the first post, curious as to 'what's going on here? why are people missing this angle? Or even 'what am I missing?' Was more about 'why did the writers not consider this angle?' before.

Ammu is a victim... even before the forced marriage we had concluded she is going through Stockholm syndrome. She's in love with her captor.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

Someone is having some influence on some people here. Hmm...

[choddo... "kya farak padta hai?" ]

*cough* *cough* Come on, it's Diwali, so break toh Banta hain.

Originally posted by: Afrinaparvin

Off topic: Hay Annu as I remembered when Mrunal exited kkb, her character was about to replace by an actress maybe Kajol name it was, also read her article that she will play the character but then what happened that even after taking her for the role, she never came and they showed Bulbul's death?Do you know anything?

Kajol? You mean Disha? Played by Richa Savran?

Originally posted by: Annu.

I never read or heard in sbb or sbs abt it I first time came to know since u told.I think the cvs decide to kill character rather then replace.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kumkum-bhagya/4537614/kajol-is-the-new-bulbul-in-kumkum-bhagya

So who was Disha ? This character's replacement?

She is a s* t. She proved it when she had intimate talk with her ex-husband in front of his current wife in Goa... I don’t believe she ever truly loved him.. instead, she used him for money and pleasure. The moment she wasn't satisfied with what he could offer, she moved on to someone else. .

I can’t handle the fact that he fell for someone so lusty money minded.... It's true that he is drawn to glamour, luxury, and outer beauty.. But how could he not see through her, even after years together?

I don’t mind that Virat is a divorcee, but the fact that he once loved and was married to this woman is what I find disgusting..I wish Mukta had cast someone else for the role of X and made her a positive character.

I feel his history with X makes him unworthy to ever be Amu’s husband.

The shares stuff was revealed by Ex. We decided correctly not to go see of it was logical from writers. 1 point that cant be ignored & haven't seen come up. Rajeev was not mentioned by Ex or Rajeev hasn't said anything himself. Why did they show us Rajeev stealing papers & giving to lawyers in dark car park?

Creators dont have screen time to explain contradicted dialogue but waste time on above Rajeev scenes. Is this really where we at with creators?

Actually here I will say he was colorblind type person.And the fact that even after staying with his mother, much known to her nature,he didn't understand how evil his mother is rather he said she's good hearted person.And also as makers failed to understand us that how he fell for her,so we all are raising this question how could he ever love that girl.But yeh bhi hai pyaar andha hota hai,same goes with him.And now one thing I notice, whenever she touch him,he always push her hands away,kind of he feel uncomfortable and uneasy with her touch and also the way he most of the time feel hesitate and nervous to touch Amruta,I feel like it's because of that girl only, maybe he had to do over s*x with her instead of he didn't want much.

We still don't know why their divorce happened and so I want to understand in my own way exactly what was the reason? He lived separately with her, fulfilled her all demands,he had money,he earned more money and worked hard,then why she left him?So now observing her nature, I'm so sure that she's kind of s*x addicting person and because of lack time and lack pleasure he was able to give her,she left him.I think makers need to clear why their separation happened instead of bringing unnecessary tracks.

Human can do mistakes and as he's sorry and regret for his decision to choose her,to love her blindly, I forgive him in this matter but whenever he compared his current wife with that bi*ch I don't like.In their scenes,I never felt like Virat has interest on her, he has zero percent desire to even touch her and I like it how he always push that sl*t.Only one mistake till now he accepted is that he loved that girl, married her,left his family for her.He confessed that loving that girl was/is his biggest mistake.So here for his past I can forgive him but for mela things, I'm sorry to say he will have to go a very long way.

Originally posted by: Afrinaparvin

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Look still it's not revealed why their divorce happened actually and I think for this reason still she's in the serial.I think there will be a track related this where it will be revealed why she left him.And I think for this reason we still get AmVira lollipop scenes only,not that type of romance.And if you observe Virat,he always hesitate and nervous during their (AmVira's) closeness moments.I think something about s*x related track will happen as our MD is so fond of romance (though we still didn't find any kind of romance in her own serial).

Virat's hesitation is good to me because he was heartbroken. It's fine that he takes baby steps towards Ammu. Also, he doesn't want to "hurt" Ammu anymore. That's why he takes his time but wants to confess that he loves her (step 1). But the thing is, they failed with his assassination multiple times

One was the phase where Ammu and him were becoming friends. Remember the Lohri convo (the best to date), he said something like "kuch ladkiyan hassa dehti hai..." blablabla, and then when he spoke to himself in the bathroom that Ammu made him reconsider his thoughts on women because she is one of a kind...Basically, he was beginning to understand it and unfortunately, they brought Aaji's confusion (extra )

From that part, the guy needed to feel something deeper but avoiding it because of his past. They should've not exposed his divorce that soon. Phir later when the friendship develops, brings in the MU, and lashes out at Ammu to show his possessiveness and that dil toota song because of his imagination (ke Ammu ne dokha ya aisa kuch diya). That's how I feel the V aggressiveness would've been justified.

Two, the divorce, yep! We needed more clues by this date about what truly happened between V P. Jab tak yeh answer nahin milega, hum ziada kuch nahin bol sakte hai unke past relationship ke bade mein. This needed to come a long way back. And that joins the "Why is she here" because it doesn't make sense at all to return (let's put aside BA contacted her) for money and fight for her right over her "fake still husband." Haq kyun jaata rahi hai? Fake divorce paper is fine, but it still no sense because of alimony, etc. In short, among all the loopholes they made on this show, this is the biggest one.

Amvira: To have (or do) it all they need understanding between them! (Stong wala) And don't forget this is ITV, ek baar milega (or maybe not if off ha jayega). All to say, it's okay here. Do you imagine they do that now and CVs bring MU from V (example) Ammu will feel cheated and like shit, that the guy (be him a hubby) just slept with her and that's it

Originally posted by: Pyaarasam

Virat's hesitation is good to me because he was heartbroken. It's fine that he takes baby steps towards Ammu. Also, he doesn't want to "hurt" Ammu anymore. That's why he takes his time but wants to confess that he loves her (step 1). But the thing is, they failed with his assassination multiple times

One was the phase where Ammu and him were becoming friends. Remember the Lohri convo (the best to date), he said something like "kuch ladkiyan hassa dehti hai..." blablabla, and then when he spoke to himself in the bathroom that Ammu made him reconsider his thoughts on women because she is one of a kind...Basically, he was beginning to understand it and unfortunately, they brought Aaji's confusion (extra )

From that part, the guy needed to feel something deeper but avoiding it because of his past. They should've not exposed his divorce that soon. Phir later when the friendship develops, brings in the MU, and lashes out at Ammu to show his possessiveness and that dil toota song because of his imagination (ke Ammu ne dokha ya aisa kuch diya). That's how I feel the V aggressiveness would've been justified.

Two, the divorce, yep! We needed more clues by this date about what truly happened between V P. Jab tak yeh answer nahin milega, hum ziada kuch nahin bol sakte hai unke past relationship ke bade mein. This needed to come a long way back. And that joins the "Why is she here" because it doesn't make sense at all to return (let's put aside BA contacted her) for money and fight for her right over her "fake still husband." Haq kyun jaata rahi hai? Fake divorce paper is fine, but it still no sense because of alimony, etc. In short, among all the loopholes they made on this show, this is the biggest one.

Amvira: To have (or do) it all they need understanding between them! (Stong wala) And don't forget this is ITV, ek baar milega (or maybe not if off ha jayega). All to say, it's okay here. Do you imagine they do that now and CVs bring MU from V (example) Ammu will feel cheated and like shit, that the guy (be him a hubby) just slept with her and that's it

Based on the chemistry I've seen. Amu bag may be naked with him before Amu.

Originally posted by: Adiandsid

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Bold: I am really curious to know why you framed it this way. Have seen Sam framing it in a similar way at least twice (repeat offender). So makes me wonder 'whats going on here?' Is it because its an easier way to put it? That's possible, cause how else can I frame it too?... cause there is an angle which makes this framing quite questionable - and that goes with the view I posted around him giving her the annulment papers, both the times. And if I am not wrong, I was the one who raised the red flag about the move and complained about it the most too. [And also feel that the writers missed / overlooked the angle.] Some took it as his act of correcting a wrong / redemption, which I don't agree with.

I didn't get it about me mentioned here. I'm a bit sleepy today. The let go off, is it the issue because the girl didn't want to go??? Yeah, maybe not the best option but still is an option. And I know you want her to leave not that idiot to be that nice to let her go, right? (which is the best option, but won't happen yet)

Annulment papers ka ek hi maqsad ta, Ammu doesn't want to leave because she wanna give that "relationship" a chance and because she already "fell" for the guy. She was just waiting for him to figure that out because he was made dumbo to ask I & U ke beech kya hai...

Also, I, myself, never took that has his redemption Jiss deen sorry bolega phir mein todha maan lunga that he is truly correcting his wrong deeds. I'm still not happy with them whitewashing him bina proper sorry.