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Team Gargi

Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

Yeah, showing Karna as if he is almighty, all goody goody, best warrior etc is what j absolutely despise.. nd i knew BW is not better than ITV, its even worse nd show all non sense.

Exactly. See I didn't mind Ashwatthama saying that Karna was the greatest warrior (better than Arjun) because people always tend to feel their side ones are better. We being neutral know how it is, but obviously Karna's side would have thought he is better and Duryodhana was a better human/worthy of throne.

What irritated me was this Kal Bhairava equivalent.


P.S. Dulqar Salman ka role was cute, I hope he is in second part

Edited by FlauntPessimism - a year ago
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Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: Palak2812

I am horrible in bargaining

Mujhse agar 1500 managega toh mein 1400 bolungi aur sochungi bohot top maari hain maine smiley18


I can't bragain

My parents does it pretty well specially my father

He got that formal coat that the shopkeeper said said for 3500 or something to 1400 smiley36

I will pay 1500 only. smiley37 Unless I know the exact price and have bought the object before.

Aur Phir Ghar pe aake mom se daant padega. smiley37smiley39

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Posted: a year ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C--KOoNS_SK/?igsh=MTBlMTBqcTk5dXFhYQ==

Read the comments of this. smiley36

And find the outraged stupid idiots. smiley37smiley39

And no this is not one off and exception. This is a norm. No one is denying your linguistic pride especially when PM Modi said it. But But But...........

And why people behave like this to them. I absolutely don't see the point here. Actually they are doing what they accuse of. Intentionally interfering.

Isse Jyada bolenge to vivad ho jayega. smiley39

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Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C--KOoNS_SK/?igsh=MTBlMTBqcTk5dXFhYQ==

Read the comments of this. smiley36

And find the outraged stupid idiots. smiley37smiley39

And no this is not one off and exception. This is a norm. No one is denying your linguistic pride especially when PM Modi said it. But But But...........

And why people behave like this to them. I absolutely don't see the point here. Actually they are doing what they accuse of. Intentionally interfering.

Isse Jyada bolenge to vivad ho jayega. smiley39

Kuch samajh nai aaya. Thoda vistaar se bataaiyen.

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Posted: a year ago

Is anyone watching Jubilee in Sony? How's it?

https://youtu.be/JL99Ay7VyuE?si=9uYPkk57la7ULmHS

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Team Gargi

Posted: a year ago

Ok so my final verdict on the movie Kalli , not

VFX is very petty. Doesn't feel real at places

Story first half is very slow and actually unorganised you don't even understand what is happening and why. Deepika for example I wasn't even able to understand what is happening to her and what is she doing.

Second half story gets clear and you might understand

They only tried to garner public sentiment by bringing Puranas and Mahabharata reference. Uske bina bhi story ban sakti thi. They are repeatedly bringing that this time is Godless and believing in God is banned (then how some of them have God's chain)

Mahabharata references seem funny . Not just about the Karna glorification (which I have already explained), even otherwise they took what's app forward of Karna pushing back Arjun's rath by 3 steps while Arjun displacing Karna's by 10 and then Krishna actually explains who this enemy is, like Arjun never knew who Karna was. And they made an animated Amitabh (won't call it VFX Amitabh) for Ashwatthama war scenes. Like why?? Usse achha un scenes k liye Abhishek Bachchan ko le lete. Ashwatthama called Karna as Mitra(ab ye kab ho gaya). Also the face of Karna was same as that of Bhairava, so why did Ashwatthama need him to actually fight for Deepika to recognise? Shouldn't he actually feel resemble is face even when he saw his "Mitra's" doppelganger for first time. Also he says Vijaya Dhanush is more powerful than Gandeev. What the hell. Now Gandeev is with the villian and Vijaya will probably be used by the positive side, as I said indirectly villian being helped by Arjun.

Out of nowhere a girl gets Ashwatthama's mani and she lands onto Ashwatthama's place(heights of co incidence)

And why was the need to say there is only one God? All religions are waiting for it(resurrection, second coming, Kalki etc) I mean yes you want to have global appeal but that seemed out of place especially when this Avtar is of Vishnu and Shiva himself is a different deity. We might say they are one but obviously when it comes to avtaarvaad they have different presence.

They nicely created the mythical city of Shambhala. The only Hindus element I liked in the movie. However the chief of Shambhala was named Mariyam. Was it a reference to mother of Jesus?? Can't be sure, and Shambhala had people of all ethnicities. Many Buddhist monks, many Roman pagans, and all form their army as per their traditional warfare in modern setup.

The guest appearances were nice especially that of Rajamouli was surprising. Prabhas says that ye pakad lenge to 5 saal nhi chhodenge (reference to Bahubali series which took 5 years of Prabhas). But at the same time with so many actors they had to spend time for giving each some importance which dragged the movie...

Overall an okayish movie if you remove Mahabharata angle. Their distortion of Mahabharata made it very annoying and non linked to the epic.

Let's see how second part will be since right now Kalki isn't even born. Will they have a third movie too, or will the second movie have him grown up, but if that then how will they take it? Prabhas won't be the main lead or Kalki would be a secondary character to Bhairav/Karna?

Kamal Hasan had only two scenes as the ruler of this dystopian future, maybe second part will explore him more.

P.S. now that they have brought this Mahabharata angle, they should make Kamal Hasan's character the reincarnation of Duryodhan (quite possible since Duryodhan was the incarnation of Kali demon, who is the governor of Kaliyuga) so they can easily make the dystopian future chief as a Kali demon's another incarnation. That will have Ashwatthama and Karna fighting against a Duryodhan with Gandeev

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Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism


They only tried to garner public sentiment by bringing Puranas and Mahabharata reference. Uske bina bhi story ban sakti thi. They are repeatedly bringing that this time is Godless and believing in God is banned (then how some of them have God's chain)


Rofl. smiley37 What a coincidence that we are talking about in an ITV forum that tried to do the same. smiley37

MB references ke bina bhi Vanshaj ban sakta tha. smiley37smiley39

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Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: BeingBlunt

Rofl. smiley37 What a coincidence that we are talking about in an ITV forum that tried to do the same. smiley37

MB references ke bina bhi Vanshaj ban sakta tha. smiley37smiley39

Vanshaj was like they tried to bring Mahabharata elements in a modern day set up(and failed), but Vanshaj was never like direct continuation of Mahabharata.

Kalki is the continuation of Mahabharata (like generation leap. Only this generation leap is of 6000 years) yahan to inko fir Mahabharata k elements intact rakhne the na. Swastik type kaam kyu karna..

Aside if you are making a movie on Hindu mythology, focus on that, what is the reason to secularise it?? I mean if you are saying God is one and Kalki is the same as say second coming of Jesus, then that means that the first coming of Jesus was Vishnu avtaar as well(and that happened in Kaliyuga) during that time also there was huge paap. To fir kaise decide hoga ki kaun waala actual kalki hai? Matlab poora khichadi ban gaya ye to

Edited by FlauntPessimism - a year ago
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Team Yash

Posted: a year ago

I didnt bother to read ur whole post coz i m not interested in that movie. Just read 2 paras.

And ofc they dont know how future will unfold when Narayan will appear as Kalki, making movie on it held no point. I still didnt get why Karna nd Arjun were shown in the first place. Kalki comes in Kaliyug not Dwapar Yug.

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Posted: a year ago

Originally posted by: RainOfDew

I didnt bother to read ur whole post coz i m not interested in that movie. Just read 2 paras.

And ofc they dont know how future will unfold when Narayan will appear as Kalki, making movie on it held no point. I still didnt get why Karna nd Arjun were shown in the first place. Kalki comes in Kaliyug not Dwapar Yug.

That is because it is a continuation of Mahabharata. Movie starts in Dwapara Yuga with Ashwatthama attacking Uttara's womb and Krishna curses Ashwatthama for being alive forever seeing all bad things happening aside. On being asked what could be his repentance, Krishna says that in Kaliyuga when there is paap all along and Ganga dries, He wil be born again and then Ashwatthama needs to be His protector.

Post that Ashwatthama hides himself and sees all wrong things happening (including the Nazis) and eventually 6000 years pass since Mahabharata war, now it's time for Vinshu to return. Ashwatthama gets this message and hence comes out to protect Deepika who is carrying God.

But he still remembers the war (obviously because that was the last thing he was actually involved in). So when he meets a young girl child he tells him about Karna and Arjun in flashback.

Child thinks that in Mahabharata, Ashwatthama would have been the most powerful but Ashwatthama says he lost to Arjun, then child says that then Arjun would have been the best, to which he replied that there was someone even better to Arjun that was Karna. Karna and Arjun were in flashback. But Bhairava now is the reincarnation of Karna whom Ashwatthama finally recognises.

Whenever Bhairav touches Vijaya Dhanush, he becomes Karna like warrior and fights for good, but ones he leaves it, he forgets everything and becomes a money carving mercenary .

But as I said there was no reason to show it it as Mahabharata continuation. It was only to garner public sentiment and if they had to do it to at least usko secularise na karte

Edited by FlauntPessimism - a year ago

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